"i like a really good life and i have a very good life i knew i was a bit different as well though you know you felt different i did feel different i was doing tv shows radio shows i had my own collect..."

"through public scrutiny in the press she has emerged as an incredibly outspoken honest humble intellectually challenging and stimulating humorous inspiration leader entrepreneur and public figure i la..."

"probably is the case um i was one of five kids but i was the fourth out of five um and uh we were my parents were irish had come over in their late 50s from ireland my father was a protestant my mothe..."

"of um encephalitis when i was 16. and she was the center of you know the world and um just by the the place where i was in the family my eldest siblings my elder brother michael was at university and ..."

"had this huge void of independence i became super naughty breaking into my school yeah all sorts of stuff i set far to mine that was by accident i thought i could do a little bonfire on the wooden ste..."

"to the new wife of nine months so we were all out on our own really after that and that i think i look back now i look back now and i didn't look back for a long while didn't look back at all but i lo..."

"how did that impact you um thereafter and also not processing that grief well i think i had a lot of anger yeah i mean my temper was very quick i don't have that now i've done a lot of work on it it's..."

"part of my success you know being quick-witted i mean fiery doing things fast which is you know being a part of my work but i think i didn't ever discover the deeper sensitivities and there were times..."

"family home that he built are you still resentful about that yeah no were you at the time no that's another thing i don't feel resent i don't know all we wanted was for dad to be buried with mum becau..."

"pain deep inside you um and both separations i've been you know uh in two big relationships where i've been married and that that when you split up a family and i'm a family person when you have to si..."

"sufi perk roaming the bruises and how we learn from those bruises tell me about that well he's just one of my great i've discovered him um a 13th century sufi mystic and he talks about the bruises tha..."

"the best or only approach well there is the wonderful line of this too shall pass and it does [Music] for me i have found great great resolve from some of the great teachings and the philosophers who ..."

"resource and so that for me has been and i've tried to guide my children on that and actually found that that has been i wish someone had done that a little bit more it was it was shrouded in religion..."

"had my back put out i've been laid low because it's in there so i've i've learned to do that i had you know first when covered hit it was shocking for me i mean all my clients in my business which has..."

"there was a great interview i heard and i can't remember who it was and i can't remember i'd like to think but i remember he was a he was a a philosopher and he and he said we're talking about money a..."

"it always works you said during the pandemic you you felt it almost was as if you were saying you felt shame that you weren't good enough i wanted to get more detail on what you mean by that no what i..."

"bam like that like that oh my god what has happened here so i was a bit disappointed that i wasn't more you know arm baby really okay i was like sort of done a lot of work on myself but i got it back ..."

"so if i and you you have in your agency you have pretty much all high street players right so i can't imagine and so i want to know when you say you were spiraling what does that mean uh well for exam..."

"i like sharing it out so i was never i've gone ahead i've got never that i like a lovely life and and so suddenly this was like that might not be the case and you are the young lad that you've got to ..."

"this isn't going to happen again you know and there were times where they were just out in the grass playing around with us together and that's that's the magic you know that's the magic for that litt..."

"by a glass illuminated screen i worry and we have had people sat in the chair from mental health psychologists and all sorts and the the consistent theme for them has been if you can give someone comm..."

"and be reinvented but i wanted to get your take on that well i think you said it i think you know i think i think there's a lot of businesses jumping on the bandwagon thinking how can we you know save..."

"where you listen to a podcast or you listen to a piece of music or you read something or you bump into someone on the street and say morning do you fancy your coffee yeah where's that gone out of our ..."

"same now i started in my office was saying you've got a baby you can bring it in bring dogs in this was like 10 years ago what you know we need to ease up and realize that we need more of this in our ..."

"government intervention i know tories don't want to intervene and it's a free market and all that crap transports one our high streets are one our national health service is another and the way we wor..."

"of um employees choosing where they want to spend their time and where they want to work and so my objective here isn't to so what i what i tend what i feel like i saw was these kind of fragile dare i..."

"figure that out and you'll go back but yeah and that's my [ __ ] yeah that's what i think i think it's a competition of like the anatomy i'm with you you know it's it's look you as i say you're young ..."

"when you're in an office and you hear that and it's not difficult this stuff you know it's all about when you feel as confident as you do you're able to give up that control yeah that's what you're gi..."

"socializing and even things like exercise and movement for increased productivity and um i think it's time to you know i do i think the government would be effective in intervening i mean oh i've give..."

"i just didn't get that joy you know i just was on this i was doing tv shows radio shows i had my own collection i had the business i had two kids it was it was crazy and and i was the nature i was the..."

"to truly connect truly connect with me and i remember i went away um to some very expensive spa place where it was all on shanty and downward dogs and eating stuff and everyone's all this you know you..."

"wrong and that was a start of my journey it took many years i'm still you know getting still partly hybridizing that life i'm never going to sit in an ashram but i i discovered how to connect back tru..."

"you believe all of that you talk about you thought you'd become a bit of a caricature oh for sure but i also milked that that was very profitable but you know i knew it was brand mary the red bob the ..."

"accept who you are yes i think you know the thing is it's you know it's knowing what the truth is it doesn't mean that we're not going to have on this we are truly connecting on a truth here i don't t..."

"and there are times when you have to be as i say performative and be i'm mary portas you know going out i'm working i'm writing a piece or i'm doing a course but i'm rooted in who i am deeply and i th..."

"and find in life now your truth probably was that you know you wanted to get to that place where you were able to say i did this because that's the truth that was important to you because everyone els..."

"i want my life brony ware talks about the same thing she interviewed people on their palliative patients i think it's called on there who does this brony ware she was a an australian palliative nurse ..."

"remember you know saying to my sister she was like but you're not a lesbian i said well i don't know what i am do i have to put a label to it and the interesting thing is when i did and you know and m..."

"i know intuition hmm topic i've heard you talk about a lot you'd said previously that the biggest mistakes in your life had come from not listening to your intuition [Music] what comes to mind when i ..."

"something deeply know that that's right and you can get people that can analyze put data behind it logic and i've listened to them in the past and i've let things go ah not regret but oh that you know..."

"that open up so much more certainly in my area of business i reckon we ended up with such so many crap businesses because logic data and systems overtook instinct creativity and innovation and we need..."

"i think you know the there's the good and the bad and the ugly isn't there i mean i think it's i think it's a really tough world to be in that you are always on that's a very tough place to be um and ..."

"and and 40 pluses i look at some people on facebook and i think really you're still doing this [ __ ] you need to go out there and show what new shoes you've bought or what you had for brunch and wher..."

"they're pinned back by the financial incentive but i you know when i was doing my research in my book and looking at the spend on the pressure on young people who follow the kardashians to get the new..."

"exactly what i wrote about i was part of that when i was creative director at harvey knicks i was i sold this stuff to people thank you yeah bloody brilliant look i'm gonna make this sexy and and uh a..."

"really good maybe that's it because my friends get excited about small things and big things well i've got dinner table at brat and you're like great but it doesn't it doesn't excite me yeah i don't k..."

"yes and you've probably not had a ton of time to sit but then also also i have to say the privilege of having had so many great experiences yes you know so there's not really a restaurant you've not b..."

"where you where you feel you're an elect i can feel it now right the way you can put it and you can feel your energy going through your body which is beautiful and i would rather have that than this e..."

"always let me be like she was three years older but she was always like you know when she was 18 and i was 15 she'd take me out to the clubs like no one's done it you know like she was like come on an..."

"focused a lot on them as you say like making businesses kinder and it seems to be much more philanthropic than it's ever been before why why does that matter i don't know just came to me it's one of t..."

"do because i don't know because i'm doing economics it goes and i suppose i'll end up going into finance in the city and i was like i just remember this like this deep and i remember sitting there and..."

"started looking at this and i started i never saw myself as a feminist because i'd you know look at me i looked at my life why do i need to be that you know and i started to go what are we doing with ..."

"and i thought what am i going to talk and it just kept them coming up this theme so i talked on when i called it we need the kindness economy we need an economy that isn't about growth that isn't abou..."

"wokeness going on and well yeah our purpose is to make the world better no you know what is your true purpose as a business and now once you start to work on that and your self and i've done it throug..."

"business that's not siloed it's not individualistic you move from me to we so everything that you do you are thinking that bit wider than yourself it's like being a mother or a parent in any sense und..."

"and it'll regenerate it's done that as we know i said whatever but we can make that change happen we can do it by being more humane by being kinder and by creating commerce that feeds and gives social..."

"because i don't begrudge or blame anyone that can't feed their kids that that isn't thinking about saving the environment you know what i mean because i would be taking course you know so there's a bi..."

"massive move and we need to look at the brands we need to look at power in business and that's where i'm starting i wrote down earlier because you said the word and it's been something i've been very ..."

"and i clear and any time a little thing comes in that says i go thought and then i laugh at it i don't get annoyed i just go and i laugh at the me that's the thought that just tells you all this [ __ ..."

"i don't think i have i mean i don't think it looks particularly great that i've got two um failed marriages but actually they there were some brilliant years i knew they were long and they created bea..."

"no but i'm not going to tell you who is that'll be a nice headline [Music] who are you with i i i sound fair to them you know because it's just no no one in the public eye and order would they want we..."

"patience i guess or you know you talked about manifesting well probably one of the most toughest three years of my life at least three years i i grieved first of all the loss of your marriage yeah you..."