"good evening I hope you've had a great day um wellow that was easy yeah thank you can we go now can we go and have a drink we we're going to talk about where we think we're going where the future is s..."

"monthly releases sometimes On Demand right I I love that the stuff that or the pict is not up there anymore Martin and I were on a panel I have to share this actually that panel was 20 years ago almos..."

"we've gotten a lot less rubbish at the software bit I'm going to disagree with you yes I I agree with you from the AAR point of view what I've been thinking about a lot because I think about developer..."

"place and I just let listen to Holly and then Martin's going to disagree with me and me because I think you're 100% right that the the practices have changed and our stack has changed and some of the ..."

"what I think however I do I do get the sense that things have improved significantly over the last 20 30 years and I'm going 30 Years cuz I I first got involved with uh jaia back in the '90s so I can ..."

"pleased it's moving at all okay I'm going to do the opinionated moderator thing now and kind of sum up some of these Stu so so so I so I kind I kind of think that Dan's right that that you know we we ..."

"one of my heroes and I've known Martin for North for 20 years I'm still in a with the guy I just I get to hang out with his incredible like brains who did really cool cool stuff and were still doing r..."

"room the problem or the thing I realized and I've been i' I've been fairly vocal on some of the social medias out there about this for a while is if you look at scrum scrum the methods that came into ..."

"agile but just to look on the slightly more optimistic side you we're doomed D we're doomed you don't have people like the man from the Department of Defense at a conference like today saying we shoul..."

"where we are where are we going I have thoughts but I've heard too much me so I want to hear some else yeah see I have a non-thought so I I I hesitate to go first because this is too boring but I'll g..."

"just just as a starting point given the you know the elephant in the room that we haven't mentioned yet that something's happening in machine learning we're burning a planet I'm not sure what given th..."

"whereas with software what we tend to find is that we have a bit of software and we go you know what I need more software and then we get back to the xkcd scenario of I need software to manage my soft..."

"and I think there are some interesting elements here in in things like what's happening with some of the AI tools that could really cause some shifts U it's interesting I was having conversation with ..."

"fit in with the deterministic ones that we used to could be that's an interesting thread that I fancy coming back to but and I was going to say about um come back to something that you said about bein..."

"with final answers so you know in testing I mean i' would be interesting fro gen I said uh give me uh 10 tests that shall fail against this code and you know nine of them were big well the damell shou..."

"and then you got the tradeoff of is it more work to Wade through the chaff to get to the wheat than to actually do a different thing that would have got you the same wheat um I was thinking about meta..."

"serious operation went home the same day and there were these tiny little Nicks on his body right wow llm that right I want robots teaching me showing me how to write the smallest amount of software I..."

"llm I'm going to get a different result every because version the world yeah and I know I'm biased but I've got a theory that what the next generation of programming is going to look like is an awful ..."

"completely change the industry not the ones that purport to get rid of people I agree with you and I think I often think about the L&M thing and the IDE thing because I'm a big fan of the IDE and it's..."

"it's not about it's not going to be a generating code because I don't I think we all understand that it's not about purely generating lines of code or function points or whatever it is is but there ar..."

"problem with that is that we're still not very good at understanding what the behavior of the system should be when you speak to a lot of developers and we do feel more comfortable just going I'm just..."

"plausible because that the job of these systems at the moment is to make plausible convincing looking code and so we do need to have that discipline to step back and devel skill I'm I'm going to keep ..."

"qualify that with when a bunch of people who are of average to minimal ability who post stuff on stack Overflow saw the kind of thing that you might think by some really rough patent matching looks a ..."

"the only way you find out whether it's going to be good for you is to give it the shot and try it I'm going to be hard agree with that I've seen I've seen vit's at least an iteration of vit's organ is..."

"as a as a more advanced rubber duck because like I don't I'm not collocated with the team anymore I tend not to pair anymore but the the chat gbt and Jet brain's assistant those things have been quite..."

"discovered so one I think one of the interesting things that will come out of a number of the AI things and possibly more from the patent matching side of AI than the generative side of AI is we can a..."

"world and I think that would be really interesting I I have a question for Holly um because and this is totally fitting on the spot and tell me to shut up it's completely fine um so so Holly's backgro..."

"language learning that is totally putting on the spot um and I I think there's probably at least three answers um are they all overlaying each other simultaneously a a little bit um when when we look ..."

"efficiency question just whoop really loudly will power efficiency be a factor for future programming languages and if so which languages are today the most power efficient who was in Sophie's talk th..."

"thing about Java is the jvm is so smart it's optimiz way your stupid code and so it runs it very efficiently it's one of the most power efficient languages the jvm is one of the most brilliants of Eng..."

"quality code if statements kill performance yeah it's an that's an interesting thing because I mean one of the things I detect out in the sort of broader world is a real push back against small method..."

"first place is to have the data where move the data to the compute or move the compute to the data when we start getting into so and these much smaller kind of go routines or Co routine type um CSP To..."

"code yeah yeah yeah yeah next question if you have a particular situation where we have a cat 3C airplane and an airport the airplane is capable of to land automatically the situation is present in Fl..."

"about them and that's infrastructure up to dat yeah uh last question uh I expect your books are fed into the llms with a particular particularly heavy weight whoops I I have a I have a get out here wh..."