"all right Diana whoo welcome to the podcast thank you for having me here correct so maybe we should start from now and then go backwards in time so you're working on a are at Niantic after your compan..."

"lot of curious very very curious about that what it could take to be able to see information blend in in the real this is this concept of like pixels photons where as where's the line to now between p..."

"I guess audio yeah I think it will it will take time because we're at the early stages I think the progress of technology has like different cycles I mean if you read some of the work by like Carlota ..."

"of groundwork that needs to be there's some early choke is because you do need examples of applications to be able to inform and build the right kind of OS infrastructure to accelerate that and in par..."

"one it is AR is tagging a law along a lot of the infrastructure that the mobile mobile world built like it is very easy now to build like a phone if you want it there's like the supply chain for all t..."

"the mobile space so second technology trend that really hitting for AR to be something real besides more law Moore's law everyone is familiar with it we're computing getting faster every 18 months twi..."

"which is if you really look at the numbers the last time I looked at it the iPhone 7 beats and all benchmark for CPU and power and sorry for CPU loads or GPU loads when you compute something as much a..."

"you feel certain constraints on the actual hardware side and then getting there so shrinking so that's another one yeah power efficiency the third one another law their law is Edmunds law okay comes f..."

"better than dial-up in the 90s relative to a r44 networking right so that applications built in a R and D are there will be very data hungry because there's a lot of you're pushing pixels a lot of con..."

"starting a company in a relatively I mean light as you described like ARV are its kind of been around for 50 years whatever but relatively nascent area what is your advice for like a founder thinking ..."

"the highway when oculus got acquires like hyped up the whole space yeah right after that has been difficult for sometimes to raise money for that space for content creators can be difficult sometimes ..."

"tech sometimes it's difficult because of this yeah finding what was that process like how'd you find the right right folks so and one sense we we had the good timing that Eric it just got launched at ..."

"those folks through demo day through intros how did they find you because I think we're invariably people are asked me to say how do I find the right investor to support my my vision so part of it is ..."

"different than I you know other founders friend with sometimes that that that first first thing is really having more actual paying customers or early when when the technology is more straightforward ..."

"with a lot I guess whatever I'm kind of asking is like you know the people didn't say yes who maybe gave you a no or like you know maybe if this develops further which is basically no how did those co..."

"everything is only for us it's a bit of an anomaly how it happened but we they get some nose but it's okay you kind of go and keep trying right worked out worked out yeah so related to working out you..."

"you started and there's there's a degree of passion in your thing that's really hard to feel for someone else's thing mm-hmm so how do you make it work and and get satisfaction out of it it's a very g..."

"skip fast-forward it's what it felt like the other thing is to take this opportunity and reframe it a bit is still a very valuable space to learn other kinds of skills so now it's kind of more taking ..."

"be difficult because there's different cultures right it's kind of like immigration immigration yeah there's there's a mutual respect for things that we can learn from from each other and work togethe..."

"the ten developers to work on our platform to see what else they could build outside of the Niantic world so that was like started as a conversation with one of the leaders at Niantic I'm gonna with i..."

"its having taking time patience to work through those things and having faith in the long term it's kind of making it happen and so the this is funny you mentioned it already but like it's all tied ba..."

"were trying to find a better life outside of China because of all the situations that was that was happening back in the 70s so they applied for a visa and when wherever it took them first and the fir..."

"we've done that once already we could do it again but it's really hard but think of it I take this opportunity to do something I know there was scene that I've been always curious and been good at tin..."

"could do and it was it was really challenging I mean coming to this new space and being by myself in school and it was the hardest thing I had to do back then and also all of that and because I had to..."

"yeah so with the one about immigrants I think the thing that's exciting about us versus SHL and imagine other countries as well is a lot of this positive determinism mentality yeah but really intrapre..."

"there will be challenges of course coming from depending as an immigrant what type of company you start there are some that need more understanding of the cultural norms or laws are you kind of some t..."

"because I think that's something that often stresses people out yeah there's a lot of angst about what to do your life and so I see the pinnacle or things like that it's but it's a process in your lif..."