"For us, the end goal is to replace coding with something much better. I think that this is going to be a decade where just your ability to build will be so magnified. If you keep pushing the frontier ..."

"goal with the company is to replace coding with something that's much better. Me and my three co-founders we've been programmers for a long time. More than anything, that's what we are. The thing that..."

"seeing the first signs of things really changing. Um I think you guys are probably on the forefront of it with YC because I think that in smaller code bases with smaller groups of people working on a ..."

"a product will be getting to a place where uh you know we become less of a productivity tool that's helping you look at read write understand code and where the artifact kind of changes and I think fo..."

"to get mature and you know for 25 30% of professional development, you can just entirely lean on those end to end without really looking at things. Then there will be all of these other things to figu..."

"naturally one of the places where once your code base reaches a certain size you know, you got to use rag, it has incomplete context, and then it just can't do what uh a human coder could do. Yeah, I ..."

"a bottleneck to being superhuman. It's kind of related, but being able to do tasks over very long time horizons and continue making forward progress. Going around on the internet, there's this amazing..."

"we've hacked around these continual learning problems. But our understanding is that you know the way you teach these models to be better at something like aesthetics is not in the way you would a hum..."

"sense. I it there's that quote, good people will uh help you hit, you know this bar, but the truly great, the truly masterful, they uh, you know, hit a bar that you can't even see. Yeah. So, and that ..."

"many more pieces of niche software will exist. One of my first jobs actually was working for a biotech company. Um, and it was a company staffed by wet lab scientists. They were developing drugs to to..."

"Things that you want to want to happen on computers will then just kind of be able to happen. Switching gears, like I wanted to hear about the early days of cursor. You met your co-founders uh Swale, ..."

"still run. From the start, we wanted to pick an area of knowledge work and then work on what that knowledge work became as AI got more mature. We were very interested in the shape of a company where y..."

"initially we set out to do that for uh you know an area of knowledge work we actually didn't know that well which was mechanical engineering and we worked on a co-pilot for um for computerated design ..."

"end up uh going to sit with I don't know people who used CAD or machinists and people like that? So we did we did tons of user interviews and I think we could have done that even better. And I think t..."

"immensely useful um for for the cursor experience. So one of the things that's I mean a incredibly brave but also incredibly precient was to take a moment and say actually we don't know enough about C..."

"uh sounds extra precient in that Sam Alman sat in this chair maybe a year ago and talked about how if you're betting against the models getting smarter that's bad. you should always bet that the model..."

"an interesting development. Heard it rumored that to go from GPD3 which you know had existed for a while and didn't you know impress some people but was certainly not the breakout moment chachbt was t..."

"the time. And yeah, that came from a place of thinking all of programming is going to flow through these models. It's going to look very different in the future. You're going to need a control UI. It ..."

"thing of of autocomplete. But even after they got autocomplete to work, um they needed to make changes at the editor level. They couldn't do it entirely as an extension. They had to go and change thin..."

"that was fairly small before we released the first version to the public. I think that it was from lines of code to first public beta release. It was 3 months but then there was this year of iterating..."

"execute on in the future. I think one of the challenges we have and a lot of other companies in parallel spaces have is just the rate at which we need to build the company I think is really fast and I..."

"guess did you work backwards from that? It's like, well, we know the segment of people we want to grow and then what do they want or what would prevent people from becoming that? I think that building..."

"kind of main thing that we really acted on was just we reload the editor. Our product development uh process early on it was very experimental. It was very focused on um kind of like what we understan..."

"Who were some some of the first hire? I mean I assume more engineers but you know so we agonized over the first hires and I think that if you want to go fast on the order of years actually going slow ..."

"quickly. These days, I mean, everyone's sort of trying to figure out how to deal with this, but you know, simply because the AI tools are so great, it's making it harder at times to even figure out ho..."

"scales? And do you still write code? And I do. Yes. It's something that we think about a lot uh because I think that cursor in the future will have to look very different from cursor today. One I I th..."

"actually be durable and usable. How do you think about that? Well, I think that the the market that we're in and that others are in resembles markets that you've seen in the past that actually aren't ..."