"it's not really about productivity it's not about time management it's really just about look in any given day we're lucky if we can have one great moment where we have our Peak attention and we use i..."

"energy today I've got two guests Jake knp and John zeratsky Jake and John are authors of two incredible books Sprint and make time with Sprint they've helped more than 300 teams design new products an..."

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"this whole collection of apps and services and products there that are sort of ready to to pounce on that they're ready to take advantage of that set of defaults that cultural and internal you know se..."

"about I'm guilty of both these things I feel like these the reason I do some of these chats this one in particular is I it's like Consulting like one-on-one coaching almost like this is going to help ..."

"top of the interview Lenny you asked what do people what do most people get wrong about you know when they think about this productivity time management whatever and I'll I'll frame my answer in in th..."

"focus and spend time on these different more important things and if you think of that that sort of what do I want to do what's my goal what do I want to spend time on that John referred to as like pr..."

"like it's a peer of those others but in a way like it really can be so these big things they're like at odds with with these these little things that get in the way that the business buy bandwagon exp..."

"important stuff A lot has changed in my life since we wrote the book the summary is every few months I need a few new experiments I've found in what has been some you know some trying times that the t..."

"then try to experiment my way out of it that um that I'm able to but yeah so at any given point in time you know I probably give myself a a b to you know B minus and sometimes it's a c and sometimes i..."

"be a mess outside of that and you still feel really good about your days you still feel really good about the way you're spending your energy yeah and having a framework for it gives you a path back y..."

"don't even have to do like most of them if you just do like one or two if you find one or two things that can make you a little bit more productive every day that makes a huge dent and so I think it's..."

"but let's get into it there's this kind of four-part framework for how to help yourself be more productive basically if you could just give an overview and then let's just talk about each of these ste..."

"is start your day out and you imagine it's the end of the day you're looking back on the day if someone asked you what was the highlight of your day what would you say what do you want to say at the e..."

"Highlight comes from Joy or you know satisfaction projects that wouldn't otherwise get attention and it also doesn't have to just be something at work it could be people in your life that you want to ..."

"that's the anchor of everything that's the core that's the foundation and you start that way you're now trying to shape your time around that highlight and making sure that you have your Peak energy y..."

"podcast so I this morning I need to think about what's the best way for me to have Peak energy when a podcast starts that's my highlight too actually I have a okay record a great podcast episode excel..."

"scientific method like did it work did what I tried today work out and if not just being curious about it what didn't and adjusting and trying to think okay maybe there's another tactic I can try so t..."

"really just about look in any given day we're lucky if we can have one great moment where we have our Peak attention and we use it well and it's not going to happen every day but if we have some inten..."

"great day and it may sound crazy that that's true but it's so true yeah yeah totally so I want to talk more in depth about each of these four things and maybe spend the most time on the Highlight on t..."

"my focus time and I protect that very very very uh intensely and uh and and then use that time to work on whatever my highlight is we had a previous guest on near I also talking about productivity and..."

"individual level and and especially at a team level is this really powerful tool that most people just kind of like uh not only do they not use it as as like a tool they just sort of hate it they're s..."

"I think that what's so cool about this notion of Groundhog Day and if you've seen the movie well if you haven't seen the movie see the movie what a great movie but if you if you have if you've seen th..."

"starting with the calendar using the calendar as a framework for saying like okay here's what actually happens here's what I I think is gonna happen that's what you're saying when you you know do this..."

"then I found this week that like what I thought happened how long I thought those things take was not how long they take and and so this you know just set that thing to repeat every day and look at it..."

"idea I don't think we've mentioned yet is that we strongly believe in people's intuition about how they should spend their time if they have the chance what really is important and that is true you kn..."

"effective so just to kind of give people tactical advice for how to actually implement this just a couple things that I'll I'll summarize one is you had these to pick the Highlight you had a couple qu..."

"talked to a lot of people who work in healthcare settings about this like they're they're you know a nurse or a doctor and it's like when they're at work they're at work right like they're not bouncin..."

"that and then the advice is either write it on a Post-It I actually bought these tiny little poits by accident I was trying to buy regular Post-its and they're actually really great for this specific ..."

"dark we had to stop but it was is like so magic and remember like the very last end of the sled run and it's like the last one and you know he's like man he's like that was a great last sled run so gl..."

"what this is about I just feel like better about it because you know feel more intentional well thank you for sharing the real talk I think you made the right choice I feel bad for having you have to ..."

"seems like I screwed it up i' flip it back I I know where it happened a lot of this is just like if you were designing a product or writing code or whatever like you can see that's where the bug happe..."

"check it out at work.com to learn more that's work.com I want to talk about the next bucket that you call Laser you could also think of it as just like how to focus better and this is where like most ..."

"oh yeah right okay I did that on purpose like great like I I I broke that that like feedback loop a little bit I did similar thing with Twitter SLX where I deleted the app and I just used the mobile w..."

"it's set in stone that's a great tip of just like coming back to it not feeling like you're defeated it's like all right let's try this again yeah I think a big part of it is if you can experience the..."

"this so I just started deleting things on my phone and I deleted email and I deleted Facebook and I deleted just everything that had an infinity pool everything that had an infinite amount of content ..."

"delete it it's important to know it's not actually nothing's being deleted when you're deleting the app like you can reinstall it you log in it's all the same it's all the same that's an important poi..."

"put it on there and like if you're motivated enough you know you can do it but it's it takes a few minutes you need like an old timeing camera that you have to like wind with like has to sit there her..."

"can Implement that that tactic that uh I think can make a big difference my wife and I have been talking about that actually but the issue is are to watch our kid with the nanet app we need our phone ..."

"nanet device and like that's all it does and like it's in a nice little stand by by the bed that can create some separation as well that's a great idea I think there's a company I think it was Aran Hu..."

"yeah my wife and I have a similar Dynamic but but in reverse and with news like I I I spend like very little time like reading the news um and I don't have any news apps on my phone but but my wife's ..."

"come to you people will share it with you or you know you'll hear about it if it's a really big news story you'll hear about it eventually you know if it's gonna affect you actually you'll hear about ..."

"really well yeah it's the opposite of Twitter basically so yeah let's hear a couple more tactics and then let's touch on the other two parts of this framework well first a pairing and then one more th..."

"the real power of it is in changing like my own our own expectations about what we are going to do and what we are expected to do most of the stress comes internally from our feeling that if we don't ..."

"at home you can do things like put a timer on your on your internet you can actually like buy one of those like vacation timers plug it into the wall plug your router into that and it will actually li..."

"then you're not fighting the battle a lot of this stuff there's like a visualization I think of where I've got the Highlight in front of me it's right there this thing I can see that I want to do but ..."

"thing where he's I know well I in e8th grade I played odys in school play so I I tell you all about it oh man what a what a character to play yeah and like in that story he like he wanted to experienc..."

"distraction that come from all of social media all of the news and almost all of my email and so like if that's true like for anybody if it's even remotely true for us we have to just radically rethin..."

"and we're not able to easily willpower and self-esteem manage all this stuff if we're reaction machine we're not doing meaningful work no project A's and we're not really alive as humans we're just ch..."

"method is all about for folks that haven't read the book yeah so to to like replay kind of the the system you know overall like highlight is about the thing you want to make time for like today the mo..."

"difference maybe share one or two tips there real quick for people to energize to create a little more energy during their day in the years since we wrote the book and as you know my life has just con..."

"the the pillars of of How I build energy over the last few years I use this app called future I'm a investor just quick disclaimer but uh it's basically a a personal trainer through an app that's like..."

"Loop so was there a connection between what you hoped would happen did you manage to do your highlight if so what helped you do it what worked or didn't work what made it hard it might be an energy th..."

"for what matters for you amazing so I've used up basically all our time talking about make time I think we should have a follow-up episode just to talk about Sprint um what I think we do is let's cut ..."

"is this framework of Sprint what is what when do people use this idea this framework this approach and uh what are some examples of what has come out of somebody applying Sprints the big idea with a d..."

"make time to change the defaults but not just the defaults of the way an individual works but the ways teams work the way people make decisions the way we evaluate what's a good idea a good strategy a..."

"faster than if you spent you know months working on on that that prototype or that first version of the product before releasing it I think what's awesome about it is as a product manager the idea of ..."

"with little stars that's in the corner that says hey would you like to ask the a i a question about this but something that's really meaningful doing this kind of repeated we run a sequence of Sprints..."