"the following is a conversation with Rajat manga he's an engineering director of Google leading the tensorflow team tensorflow is an open source library at the center of much of the work going on in t..."

"enjoy it subscribe on youtube itunes or simply connect with me on Twitter at Lex Friedman spelled Fri D and now here's my conversation with Roger manga you were involved with Google brain since its st..."

"it held some promise that had shown some very promising and early results I think that the idea where Andrew and Jeff had started was what if we can take this what people are doing in research and sca..."

"neural networks that was so who was declaring from the very beginning that that was the whole mission so what would in terms of scale what was the sort of dream of what this could become like what wer..."

"I wanted this start to make sense and come together so the decision to open-source I was just chatting with the Chris flattener about this the decision go open-source with tons of flow I would say so ..."

"so the next step was okay now word software help with that and it seemed like they were existing a few libraries out there they are hoping one torch being other and a few others but they were all done..."

"provide helps the community in lots of ways but it also helps push the write a good standard forward so how does cloud fit into that there's a tensorflow open source write library and how does the fac..."

"had decided that okay there's a high likelihood we'll open source it so we started thinking about that and making sure we're heading down that path at that point by that point we had seen a few you kn..."

"during this time in a parallel I guess University but we were using piano and cafe yeah we did we was there some degree to which you were bouncing I like trying to see what cafe was offering people tr..."

"without with moving towards tensorflow 2.0 there's more by default will be eager execution so sort of hiding the graph a little bit you know because it's less intuitive in terms of the way people deve..."

"it became so I think we did see a need for this a lot from the research perspective and like early days of keep learning in some is 41 million oh I don't think I imagined this number then there it see..."

"think about documentation I think what that changed was instead of deep learning being a research thing some people who were just developers could now certainly take this out and do some interesting t..."

"uh do you have a sense now the tensorflow misses day like it feels like the deep learning in general is extremely dynamic field as so much is changing do you have uh and doesn't fall it's been growing..."

"more and more of the past arts much more stable and even stuff that was two three years old is very very usable by lots of people so that makes her that part makes it all easier so I imagine maybe you..."

"and then they I think the other pieces that they weren't again it with 2.0 or that developer summit we put together is there the whole tensorflow extended piece which is the entire pipeline they care ..."

"you'd like with it within in the sense of like ecosystem there's now you're providing more and more data sets and more pre training models are you finding yourself also the organizer of data sets yes ..."

"believe that might still have been before he joined Google so I you know we're not really talking about that he decided on his own and thought that was interesting and relevant to the community in fac..."

"right so what was that decision like that seems like a I it's kind of a bold decision as well we did spend a lot of time thinking about that one we had a bind of API somewhere by us there was a parall..."

"that's right yeah it's interesting how you can put two things together which don't which can align iron in this case I think Francois the team and I you know a bunch of us have chatted and I think we ..."

"me as the saloon decision-maker yeah so yeah the growth of that ecosystem maybe you can talk about a little bit first of all when I started with Andre karpati when he first had come that j/s the fact ..."

"that that's great that really helps the entire ecosystem not just those one of the big things about 2.0 that we're pushing on is okay we have these so many different pieces right how do we help make a..."

"to be yes that's the other question here too there are lots of steps to a training leave iterated over the last few years so there's lot we've learned I yeah often when things come together well thing..."

"so there's a challenge here because the downside of so many people being excited about tensorflow and becoming to rely on it in many of their applications is that you're kind of responsible it's the t..."

"think about a lot of things as we do new things and make new changes I think it's a trade-off right you can you might slow certain kinds of things down but the overall value you're bringing because of..."

"behind you yeah that's right okay that's really really well put so I have to ask this because a lot of students developers ask me how I feel about pie tours for successful so I've recently completely ..."

"before that so competition is definitely interesting it made us you know this is an area that we had thought about like I said you know very early on over time we had revisited this a couple of times ..."

"of them do but a lot of them don't I mean they cut small pieces there are lots of these some of them being let's say hardware vendors who are building their custom hardware and they want their own Vsa..."

"and how does that growth continue yeah uh yeah that's a interesting question I wish I had all the answers there I guess so you could replicate it I I think there's a there number of things that need t..."

"we've spent a lot of time in making sure we can accept those contributions well we can help the contributors in in adding those putting the right process in place getting the right kind of community w..."

"and you know some implement a particular architecture that does something cool useful and they put it at that and github and so it just feeds this this growth these have a sense that with 2.0 and 1.0 ..."

"think over the next few months as people start to see the value will F&T see that shift happening so I'm pretty excited and confident that we will see people moving as you said earlier this field is a..."

"to program something else similarly with surfer tensorflow we're taking that approach can you do something roundup right so some of those ideas seem like okay that's the right direction in five years ..."

"you've been trying to sort with with ego with carrots to make tensorflow as accessible and easy to use as possible what do you think for beginners is the biggest thing they struggle with have you enco..."

"there was other pain points you tried to ease but I'm not sure there would know that those are probably the big ones every night I see high schoolers doing a whole bunch of things now it's pretty amaz..."

"that's important is a cohesion across the team so being able to execute together and doing things it's not an end like at this scale an individual engineer can only do so much there's a lot more that ..."

"who are comfortable with that but at the same time now for example we are at a place where we are also very full-fledged product and we want to make sure things that work really really work right you ..."

"what is the hardest part of your job I think you pick I guess it's it's fun I would say right hard yes I mean lots of things at different times I think that that does vary so let me clarify that diffi..."

"where I mean it's less deadline you had the dev summits yeah they came together incredibly didn't look like there's a lot of moving pieces and so on so that did that deadline make people rise to the o..."

"okay but we want to get like keep moving as fast as we can in these different areas because we can iterate and improve one things sometimes it's okay to put things out that aren't fully ready if you m..."

"released this I don't know if you can say but is there you know there's not external deadlines for tensorflow 2.0 but is there internal deadlines the artificial are otherwise that you try and just set..."

"you're actually doing and so they have a bad rap I guess and so at the end the other end so that this connecting users to the thing they need to want is a beautiful opportunity for machine learning to..."

"it's it's not a new model it's it's been adapted to the web and you know became a core part of search and in many other search engines across the world I I do hope you know like I said there are aspec..."

"around me so definitely hopeful like real transition to that mix model where maybe you get to try something out for free maybe with ads but then there's a more clear revenue model like that sort of he..."