"I ate a diet that's very normal for a British person I gained so much weight got in this vicious cycle of overeating anxiety sleeplessness scanned my brain and if I'd continued for a year I would have..."

"vanel you wrote a book ultr processed people I know from firsthand experience that writing books is a painful experience it takes a long long time to do it and you have an extensive experience across ..."

"argument that's been a decad long with you you are the barrier and so because I'd been nagging him I owned his problem and he didn't own it and so at the heart of the book is this this idea that naggi..."

"that experiment those children who were unable to resist the marshmallow went on to really suffer in life they had much uh across all kinds of different indicators their lives were much more troubled ..."

"about any one product the evidence applies to the category of food and this kind of stuff in a sense I think you're ABS these are such brilliant choices because this is the foundation of our diet and ..."

"fingers I think this stuff is at the shallow end of the pool in a way it's not by any means the worst stuff but in a way it presents the biggest moral hazard because we think it's so healthy can I hav..."

"four green traffic lights right what what does what do they call that that traffic light system on the so this is the way we describe healthy whether a food is healthy or not in this country at the mo..."

"sweat about there's some there's some evidence but not not at normal dosage then we've got natural flavorings we've got caffeine flavoring an addictive drug and phosphoric acid and citric acid natural..."

"pizza and I thought surely this pizza here is better for a lot better for me than this one here so again that there's a complexity talking about is one better than the other because we've we've never ..."

"only way to make home cooking economical you got a deep freezer to store it in so saying to people with low incomes you know make healthier choices it is it is nonsense it's just it's it's and so I fe..."

"where they got to choose their own food from a selection of un unprocessed foods and the children instinctively chose their own diet which met their nutritional needs and Cal calorie intake what was t..."

"like a big herbivore living in you know any of the big herbivores living on any of the big PLS of the world and you think well they just eat grass they don't we've done loads of experiments where you ..."

"kids in ENT she was functioned almost like an orphanage and each child got access to 34 different Whole Foods every single day and it was things like there was raw bone marrow and cooked rice and yogu..."

"they will come away with technical knowledge that they will be able to use and and I wish them well with that the big argument of the book is about this this is about social justice you know it is it ..."

"and control I'm like G and when I hear about this sort of food environment we're living in and the the big food Mafia and the marketing and pinging me left right and center and all the products that a..."

"yourself as either a victim or anything you're just eating your food and then Midway through the B book I think I do propose to you that you are a victim and that's a hard thing for any of us to liste..."

"is there we are at this moment where we do have to politically treat the companies like the tobacco companies now at the moment for many people trying to quit ultr processed food will be like trying t..."

"should be able to live your life as you want what I do think is what I want for for everyone is that they can they have agency so that they are not subject to constant predatory marketing and they hav..."

"something I'm I'm so anxious about doing but he yeah he a big product of the book was an improvement in my relationship with him because I stopped caring what he ate I find it so interesting why peopl..."

"someone doing the bidding of someone else and I it enrages me and we do it to each other so just allowing other people to grasp their problems um and deal with them or not is you know that's that's it..."

"worth achieving will be achieved in our lifetime so this will not be just the work of my lifetime and I'm I'm inheriting this work uh many of us are inheriting this work from a generation of people wh..."

"and you can be on one side of it I guess Chris we have a closing tradition on this podcast where the last guest leaves a question for the next guest not knowing who they're going to leave it for and t..."

"and force time with them that that I'm present and often they don't want they're not interested but it's just being there listening to them and and uh investing in them regularly in the way that that ..."