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Tulsi Gabbard is a politician, veteran, and author of For Love of Country. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: - Riverside: https://creators.riverside.fm/LEX and use code LEX to get 30% off - ExpressVPN: https://expressvpn.com/lexpod to get 3 months free - NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/lex to get free product tour - Notion: https://notion.com/lex TRANSCRIPT: https://lexfridman.com/tulsi-gabbard-transcript EPISODE LINKS: For Love of Country (book): https://amzn.to/3VLlofM Tulsi's X: https://x.com/tulsigabbard Tulsi's YouTube: https://youtube.com/@TulsiGabbard Tulsi's Podcast: https://youtube.com/@TheTulsiGabbardShow Tulsi's Instagram: https://instagram.com/tulsigabbard Tulsi's Facebook: https://facebook.com/TulsiGabbard Tulsi's Website: https://tulsigabbard.com/ PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ Full episodes playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrAXtmErZgOdP_8GztsuKi9nrraNbKKp4 Clips playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrAXtmErZgOeciFP3CBCIEElOJeitOr41 OUTLINE: 0:00 - Introduction 1:07 - War in Iraq 8:53 - Battle injuries and PTSD 16:03 - War on terrorism 24:44 - War in Gaza 28:45 - War in Ukraine 32:31 - Syria 40:13 - Warmongers 49:33 - Nuclear war 1:05:01 - TikTok ban 1:17:06 - Bernie Sanders 1:22:01 - Politics 1:40:52 - Personal attacks 1:43:01 - God SOCIAL: - Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman - Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman - Reddit: https://reddit.com/r/lexfridman - Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman
Tulsi Gabbard reflects on the harsh realities of war, emphasizing the human and financial costs involved. She discusses her experiences as a military member and the emotional toll of tracking casualties, highlighting the disconnect between political decisions and the lives affected by war.
"it's a sad State of Affairs when our some of the most influential voices in our country will label someone a uh a lover or supporter of dictators simply because you're saying hey we shouldn't be going..."
Gabbard shares her firsthand experiences from her deployment in Iraq, detailing the daily task of reviewing combat-related injuries. She emphasizes the profound impact of witnessing casualties on soldiers and the local population, shaping her understanding of the true cost of war.
"gabard you've served in the US military for many years achieving rank of Lieutenant Colonel you were deployed in Iraq in 2004 and 5 Kuwait in 2008 and9 what lessons about life and about country have y..."
In this segment, Gabbard discusses the role of defense contractors like KBR Halliburton in the Iraq War. She reveals the exorbitant costs of military logistics and the stark contrast between the profits of these companies and the meager wages of workers, shedding light on the ethics of war profiteering.
"that time were in lawn stool and Ramstein in Germany and then from there getting them to either uh Brook Army Medical Center which is here in Texas that specialized in Burn related injuries or to Walt..."
Gabbard highlights the importance of building relationships with local communities during military operations. She shares how her unit's efforts to connect with the Iraqi people led to a decrease in casualties, illustrating the power of human connection in conflict zones.
"KBR halberton one of the biggest defense Contracting companies then and I know that they are still very much in that business now uh Dick Cheney being connected with that company at one point or anoth..."
This segment delves into the psychological struggles faced by soldiers who are injured in combat. Gabbard discusses the guilt and emotional stress experienced by those evacuated from the battlefield, emphasizing the human aspect of military service beyond physical injuries.
"500 bucks a month 500 bucks a month to go and do this work of of either you know cleaning out porta potties um picking up trash the dining facility doing laundry all of these different tasks because u..."
Gabbard reflects on the impact of war on soldiers' families, sharing her own experiences of communication with her parents during deployment. She conveys the anxiety and fear families face when waiting for news about their loved ones in combat.
"go um and launch these regime change Wars and and send our men and women in uniform into war and and to what end ultimately if we can just go back to that list yeah so the list is just name and injury..."
In this segment, Gabbard discusses the often-overlooked psychological injuries that soldiers endure, such as traumatic brain injuries. She emphasizes the need for awareness and support for these invisible wounds that affect many veterans long after their service.
"about what the soldiers had to go through physically and psychologically when when they get injured the physical um you know I mean some some injuries appeared to be minor upfront uh at that time trau..."
Gabbard shares insights on how her unit fostered trust with local Iraqi communities during their deployment. She explains the cultural gestures that helped bridge gaps and improve relations, ultimately contributing to mission success and safety.
"together I mean I I had friends of mine who were from Hawaii who were from American Samoa very culturally tight-knit Community who confided in me throughout that you know year that we were there some ..."
Gabbard critiques the military-industrial complex, discussing how defense contractors benefit from war and the political connections that allow them to thrive. She warns against the dangers of this relationship and its implications for American foreign policy.
"and again I served in a medical unit and what we saw was uh a Down Ward shift in um in casualties from the unit that had been there before us simply because of that that basic human connection that ou..."
In this segment, Gabbard articulates her philosophy on when war is justified, emphasizing national security and the importance of exhausting diplomatic efforts first. She reflects on the complexities of military intervention and the consequences of misdirected foreign policy.
"alive and well he warned us against it and I would say it's thriving more now uh than ever before how powerful is the military-industrial comp complex is as a thing is it a is it a machine that can be..."
Gabbard articulates her philosophy on when war is justified, emphasizing that it should be a last resort for national security. She reflects on the U.S. involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan, critiquing the shift from targeted missions against terrorism to broader regime change efforts that often undermine national security interests.
"a highlevel uh beautiful ideal but there's uh messy details so terrorism for example yes the United States involvement in the war in Iraq and Afghanistan was in part the big umbrella of the war on ter..."
In this segment, Gabbard stresses the importance of understanding the enemy in military conflicts, particularly in the context of the war on terrorism. She discusses the implications of misidentifying threats and the consequences of prolonged military engagements that fail to address the root causes of terrorism.
"get out and if you as as you look at things like the you know the Afghanistan files and others um the answers to these simple and essential questions shifted and changed over time over a very long tim..."
Gabbard emphasizes the need for a dual approach in combating terrorism: military action and ideological countermeasures. She critiques the Obama Administration's reluctance to accurately identify the ideology behind terrorist groups, arguing that understanding their motivations is crucial for effective counter-terrorism strategies.
"though they are one of the main groups that provides funding to al-Qaeda in that entire region so any president or politician can declare a war to be over but when you have uh an enemy like these isla..."
Gabbard discusses the complexities of the Israel-Gaza conflict, advocating for a nuanced approach that recognizes the shared aspirations of both Israelis and Palestinians for peace. She highlights the dangers of escalating violence and the need for strong leadership to foster dialogue and reconciliation.
"actually uh preventing their attack both militarily and as reing now with with hamas's actions not only directly in the assault on Israel but how they Hamas achieved their objectives in spreading thei..."
In this segment, Gabbard outlines her views on the resolution of the Ukraine conflict, stressing the necessity of brokered dialogue between Russia and Ukraine. She critiques the current U.S. administration's approach and emphasizes the importance of diplomacy in ending the war.
"that that we all want if we look at the perspective of Israel in the Israel Gaza war going on now what do you do with the fact that a the death of a civilian serves as a catalyst gives birth to hate p..."
Gabbard argues for the U.S. President's role in facilitating peace talks between conflicting nations, specifically mentioning the need for direct engagement with leaders like Zelensky and Putin. She believes that effective diplomacy can lead to significant progress in resolving international tensions.
"to let the past be in the past and find a way towards peace in the future how do you think how do you hope the war in Ukraine will end the only way that this war ends is is to do exactly what we're ta..."
Gabbard reflects on the importance of meeting with adversaries, citing her own experiences and the backlash she faced for engaging with controversial leaders. She argues that understanding different perspectives is essential for making informed decisions that can prevent unnecessary wars.
"interests well some of it is basic human camaraderie like people call me naive for this but sometimes just knowing that there's a human on the other side even like when it's in private if you look at ..."
Gabbard critiques the U.S. government's narrative on regime change in Syria, highlighting the dangers of arming opposition groups without understanding the potential aftermath. She warns against oversimplified narratives that ignore the complexities of power dynamics and the risks of further conflict in the region.
"outcast and uh it it was it was it was unfortunate because you know people people levied all kinds of accusations and and you know smears against me for going and and having the audacity to go and and..."
In this segment, Gabbard addresses the lack of nuanced discussion surrounding the Russia-Ukraine war. She argues that the portrayal of Putin as the sole villain oversimplifies the situation and neglects the potential consequences of regime change, urging for a more comprehensive understanding of the geopolitical landscape.
"conflicts you know with a comprehensive view on on exactly all the Dynamics that are that are at play and and that's what I found when I came back I I went looking for went to Syria looking forward to..."
Gabbard reflects on the destructive nature of war, emphasizing its impact on human lives and the potential for nuclear escalation. She discusses the importance of fostering collaboration among nations and the need for a shift in perspective to prioritize peace over conflict.
"that the the US military industrial complex will feed into so you have to think about what the future holds and what the different Power Players are and what uh the level of corruption there is and so..."
Gabbard shares her experiences with political criticism, particularly accusations of being pro-Putin. She explains how these smears are often used to undermine those who challenge the military-industrial complex and advocates for a more open debate on foreign policy.
"will rise again uh well let me ask you about the criticism you've mentioned uh of this probably the most common criticism of you that you love Putin so just to linger on it what's what do you think is..."
In this segment, Gabbard calls for honest discussions about U.S. foreign policy and the military-industrial complex. She critiques the lack of debate within the Democratic Party and emphasizes the importance of allowing diverse perspectives to be heard in order to make informed decisions about war and peace.
"new level what is the basis for this nothing it is it is a tired yet Dependable Playbook that is used not only by people like Hillary Clinton but also people like Mitt Romney and others to try to smea..."
Gabbard discusses the influence of the military-industrial complex on U.S. foreign policy and the media. She warns of the dangers posed by powerful interests that seek to maintain their influence by suppressing dissenting voices and manipulating public perception.
"people obviously this has happened to Trump it's happened to Bobby Kennedy it's happened to people like Rand Paul and others there was a small group but a growing number um at least I'm on the Republi..."
Gabbard addresses the terrifying potential for nuclear war and the ease with which it could escalate. She emphasizes the need for public awareness and understanding of the risks involved, advocating for a proactive approach to prevent such a catastrophic event.
"over the war in Ukraine it was strange to uh to watch that the Nuance aspect of the discussion was lost very quickly it was uh Putin bad right it was a war between good and evil right and in that if y..."
In this segment, Gabbard critiques the normalization of discussions around nuclear warfare, particularly the use of tactical nuclear weapons. She references Ronald Reagan's warning that nuclear war cannot be won, urging listeners to reject the dangerous rhetoric that trivializes the potential for global destruction.
"Machinery of it how clueless everybody is combined with the Machinery of it it's just impossible to stop and it just between rushing that the United States especially and then all of a sudden you have..."
Gabbard reflects on a public service announcement from New York City regarding nuclear attack preparedness, criticizing its trivialization of nuclear threats. She argues that such messaging creates a false sense of security and reveals a careless attitude towards the reality of nuclear conflict.
"war that um can be waged somehow without that risk of escalation to the point of destruction of human civilization and and so they talk about this as though it's just another war and especially as the..."
This segment delves into the risks associated with military decision-making during crises. Gabbard emphasizes the need for leaders to think critically and independently, rather than succumbing to the prevailing warmongering mentality that often dominates discussions in high-stakes situations.
"military Target uh Ronald Reagan was 100% correct when he said you know a nuclear war cannot be won and should never be waged it was true then and it's true now no matter how much these guys who are p..."
Gabbard discusses the importance of courageous leadership in times of crisis, using the example of Ukrainian President Zelenskyy. She argues that true leadership involves making difficult decisions that prioritize the nation's well-being over personal safety or political pressure.
"internet I think it was on the radio where you had a woman who appeared to be um an actor coming in and saying hey um in the event of when the big one hits here's what you should do focus on doing the..."
In this segment, Gabbard warns against the dangers of groupthink in military and political decision-making. She highlights how the fear of dissent can lead to catastrophic decisions, urging the need for leaders who are willing to challenge the status quo and advocate for peace.
"kind of like here's what you do when a tornado hits or when a big storm hits and and categorizing the big one a nuclear attack within that same kind of preparedness that you would want people to have ..."
Gabbard explains the critical role of the U.S. President in nuclear decision-making, emphasizing the limited time available to respond to threats. She stresses the importance of electing leaders who can think independently and prioritize the safety of humanity over political expediency.
"near misses were there uh during during the last Cold War uh I saw this documentary called the man who saved the world and it was some like midlevel officer who happened to be on duty and who didn't d..."
This segment focuses on the necessity of trusting leaders during nuclear threats. Gabbard expresses concern over current political figures and their ability to make sound decisions under pressure, highlighting the need for leaders who prioritize thoughtful deliberation over knee-jerk reactions.
"voting based on right in the current situation you really have to see that as one of the most important aspects I agree of the United States president is who do you trust in those six minutes to sit t..."
Gabbard discusses the expectations placed on leaders during crises, lamenting that fulfilling their responsibilities is often viewed as heroic. She argues that leaders should be held accountable for their actions and decisions, particularly in matters of war and peace.
"the Machinery of warmongers that that's really I mean it's I don't want to make it sound cynical or dramatic but sometimes in such scary situations in such dramatic situations you kind of follow the m..."
In this segment, Gabbard highlights the costs associated with dissenting voices in military discussions. She emphasizes the need for open dialogue and critical thinking, warning that the prevailing warmongering mentality stifles necessary conversations about peace and alternative solutions.
"act when we should like that's that that's your job that's what we elect our leaders uh to do and yet so many so many have failed but to your to your point um it's not cynical at all to to know that i..."
Gabbard stresses the importance of considering the broader implications of military actions. She advocates for a thoughtful approach to strategy that takes into account the potential consequences of decisions, urging leaders to engage in comprehensive planning rather than reactive measures.
"warmongering establishment in Washington and the cost of this um the cost of of their retaliation against those who are reasonable voices who look at the world as it is not some fantasy that they wish..."
This segment addresses the courage required to question military involvement in conflicts. Gabbard reflects on the challenges faced by those within the military and government who seek to advocate for peace and thoughtful consideration of military actions.
"actually go through this exercise of in the military this this is commonly referred to as you know what are the second third fourth order of effects that will occur as a result of pursuing a specific ..."
Gabbard discusses the pervasive influence of the military-industrial complex in American politics. She highlights how this power dynamic shapes decisions and stifles dissent, urging the need for transparency and accountability in government actions.
"while still working within the institution it's easier if you're like an activist from the outside saying no war this kind of stuff but within the institution in the position of power to ask the quest..."
In this segment, Gabbard emphasizes the significant power held by U.S. Presidents, particularly in military matters. She argues that leaders must exercise this power responsibly and not be driven by fear of losing influence, advocating for decisions rooted in moral clarity.
"what is behind it is is this is why they uh try to destroy anyone who dares to ask the most obvious questions uh is because it is about power and wielding power well the cool thing about United States..."
Gabbard critiques the anti-TikTok bill as a power grab disguised as a national security measure. She warns that it threatens freedom of speech by allowing the executive branch to unilaterally designate foreign adversaries and restrict access to platforms.
"position of the presidency certainly does unfortunately we have people too often who assume the presidency from a position of weakness because they're afraid of losing power sure and so they make thos..."
Gabbard explains the implications of the anti-TikTok bill, highlighting that it grants the executive branch significant power to designate foreign adversaries and potentially ban social media platforms. She warns that this legislation poses a serious threat to freedom of speech and civil liberties, as it allows the government to control which platforms citizens can use.
"this legislation being build as the anti- Tik Tock bill that's really um not about Tik Tok it's about freedom of speech can you actually explain that Bill yes this is another I guess the bottom line u..."
In this segment, Gabbard critiques the government's attempts to regulate social media, arguing that it undermines free speech. She discusses the dangers of allowing the government to dictate acceptable speech and the potential for misuse of power, drawing parallels to historical legislation like the Patriot Act.
"power uh to a cabinet secretary to designate who is a foreign adversary and if a social media platform is uh has at least 20% uh ownership in a social media platform uh that platform may be banned fro..."
Gabbard warns about the implications of government overreach in regulating technology and social media. She emphasizes the need for transparency and accountability, arguing that the solution to bad speech is more speech, not censorship. This segment highlights the importance of protecting civil liberties in the face of increasing government control.
"that person obviously even an American citizen um is banned from conducting that business must they must divest essentially so when you look at and and this is where there's been a lot of chat around ..."
Gabbard describes the anti-TikTok bill as a Trojan horse for broader government control over speech and expression. She critiques the narrative that frames the legislation as a national security measure, arguing that it is fundamentally an assault on liberty and freedom of expression.
"allowing free speech on his platform and is not allowing the federal government to manipulate his platform by deeming which accounts are okay to to uh you know post their content and which accounts ar..."
In this segment, Gabbard shares her thoughts on TikTok, acknowledging its addictive nature while also recognizing the national security concerns associated with it. She reflects on the complexities of the debate surrounding TikTok and the implications of banning it under the guise of national security.
"power it is I mean this doesn't it's not just with Elon it's probably with Zuck uh with W with with Facebook Instagram WhatsApp it puts pressure it's not just about banning but it puts pressure to for..."
Gabbard discusses the challenges of government regulation of technology companies, expressing skepticism about their ability to effectively manage these platforms. She argues that government officials often lack understanding of technology and are motivated by a desire for power, which can hinder innovation and freedom.
"addicting so when I first saw this Tik Tok bill I was like yes not FR but then they got me the Trojan Horse got me no they all I mean they all and you know and this is like the social dilemma doent I ..."
Gabbard emphasizes the importance of free speech in a democratic society, arguing against government censorship of social media platforms. She advocates for open debate and the need for citizens to engage in discussions about controversial topics rather than relying on government entities to dictate acceptable speech.
"what it comes down to yeah more and more trust people to uh whenever social media companies do bullshitty things for the people to make documentaries about it to discover for great journalists to do g..."
In this segment, Gabbard connects the issues of social media regulation to broader themes of power and control in society. She warns against the dangers of allowing any entity, whether government or tech companies, to dictate how individuals should live their lives and what information they can access.
"to try to find ways to tell us how to live our lives um they are increasingly trying to tell us uh again what we're allowed to to see and hear whether it be social media companies or what show shows u..."
Gabbard concludes by advocating for a society that encourages debate and discussion rather than censorship. She argues that the best way to combat misinformation and harmful speech is through more speech and engagement, reflecting the ideals of the Founding Fathers regarding free expression.
"let's encourage this debate and and you know encourage people who are inspired by like no man I saw this thing or this thing is happening and it's pissing me off so I'm going to I'm going to I'm going..."
Gabbard expresses her concerns about the TikTok ban bill's potential passage, highlighting the bipartisan support it has received. She urges citizens to voice their concerns to their senators, emphasizing the importance of protecting free speech and civil liberties in the face of such legislation.
"this and had it supported do do you think uh what are the chances that the Tik Tok ban bill passes the way that it passed through the House of Representatives with such an overwhelming bipartisan supp..."
Tulsi Gabbard discusses the stark differences in foreign policy between Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton, emphasizing Sanders' non-interventionist stance compared to Clinton's history as a 'queen of warmongers.' Gabbard explains her motivation to resign from the Democratic Party to endorse Sanders, highlighting the importance of informing voters about these critical distinctions.
"non-interventionist um he he hasn't focused a lot on foreign policy uh it's not it's not at the heart of what his Focus has been for decades but but he was certainly far more of a non-interventionist ..."
Gabbard shares her admiration for Bernie Sanders, noting his unapologetic authenticity in both personality and advocacy. She reflects on his consistent positions over the years, which resonate with voters seeking genuine leadership in politics.
"what I went on to do throughout the rest of that primary election what do you like most about Bernie the positive you know what I like most about him is is he is who he is yeah unapologetically so uh ..."
In this segment, Gabbard explains her decision to leave the Democratic Party, citing its shift away from foundational American principles and its embrace of an elitist agenda. She critiques the party's focus on identity politics and its failure to uphold freedom, emphasizing the need for a political landscape that prioritizes the interests of the people.
"and you an excellent book describing your journey ideologically philosophically through that why did you choose to leave the Democratic Party in the book I go into um a number of the central reasons w..."
Gabbard critiques the Democratic Party's embrace of a 'woke agenda,' arguing that it undermines women's rights and erases the identity of women. She discusses how the party's actions contradict its proclaimed support for feminism, highlighting the dangers of identity politics and the rejection of objective truth.
"um controlled by this elitist cabal of War mongers who are driven uh who are driving forward this this quote unquote woke agenda um and we see it through their uh racializing of everything we see this..."
Gabbard addresses the insatiable hunger for power within the Democratic Party, suggesting that this drive leads to the erosion of democracy and freedom. She argues that both major political parties are plagued by corruption and a desire for control, which ultimately harms the American public.
"the party that for so long Proclaim Proclaim themselves to be the greatest feminists and the most pro-woman party in the country I go into detail around each of these issues and more um in in the book..."
In this segment, Gabbard acknowledges that both the Democratic and Republican parties have serious issues with power-hungry politicians. She emphasizes the need for voters to recognize these flaws and to seek leaders who prioritize freedom and the Constitution over personal gain.
"so these are just different mechanisms for power the identity of politics and the warmongering are related to each other in that their mechanisms to attain more power yes you know you you're making it..."
Gabbard discusses the challenges politicians face in maintaining integrity and acting on their campaign promises. She reflects on the fear of losing power and the influence of money in politics, stressing the importance of courageous leadership that prioritizes the people's interests.
"don't want to paint a picture of like this kind of beautiful vision of the Republican party that that they're somehow not power hungry yeah I'm I'm glad you I'm glad you brought this up you know the b..."
Gabbard provides insights into the strengths and weaknesses of President Biden and former President Trump. She critiques Biden's leadership, noting his failure to unite the country and fulfill his promises, while also acknowledging the complexities of Trump's approach to politics and governance.
"the difference that we're seeing today is that unfortunately um we talked about this a little bit how the Democratic party has become a party where you must walk in lock step with the leadership of th..."
Reflecting on former President Obama, Gabbard discusses his ability to unite people through his message of hope and change during his campaign. She contrasts this with the disappointment felt by supporters when his administration did not deliver on those promises, highlighting the challenges of political leadership.
"the Republican party is is not a monolithic entity and you know it means different things to different people and that's where I think the real challenge in this next election is less um it's really l..."
Gabbard critiques Obama's presidency regarding civil liberties, particularly his failure to act against surveillance practices that he previously opposed. She emphasizes the importance of leaders who uphold civil rights and the need for accountability in government.
"challenging question of pros and cons can you can you give me pros and cons of each what's the biggest strength and biggest limitation of let's say Biden um this is a tough this is a tough question I ..."
In this segment, Gabbard explores the difficulties presidents face in fulfilling campaign promises once in office. She discusses the pressures of political funding and the influence of special interests, stressing the need for leaders who prioritize the public good over personal ambition.
"weakness is that um instead of listening to his better Angels uh he has Instead at every turn if if you go back and you you know I I look back to his inauguration speech where he promised to be a pres..."
Gabbard analyzes Trump's position in the political landscape, noting his willingness to challenge established norms and the resistance he faces from both parties. She highlights the importance of surrounding oneself with courageous individuals who prioritize integrity over political gain.
"people so the biggest criticism would be divide he divided us continueed the division that's been um that's been there who who do you be the greatest uniter like to me over the past few decades to me ..."
Tulsi Gabbard discusses the importance of surrounding oneself with courageous individuals in politics, particularly in the context of Donald Trump's 2016 campaign. She emphasizes the need for leaders to recognize the entrenched corruption within the federal government and to learn from past mistakes to effectively challenge the status quo.
"I'll go into kind of the the next one you asked about Trump the weakness side and the lessons that I hope have been learned from 2016 for him and his team is you you have to be in a position where you..."
Gabbard reflects on Trump's unique position as a political outsider who challenges established norms. She argues that his willingness to confront the political establishment makes him a target for attacks, highlighting the need for politicians to prioritize the interests of the American people over those of powerful elites.
"strength side I think it's it's it's easy to point out because it's also what um has caused him to be so uh attacked in ways that we haven't seen before certainly not in my lifetime by uh by the Democ..."
In this segment, Gabbard shares insights on the psychological resilience required to withstand political attacks. She discusses how maintaining a clear sense of purpose can help individuals navigate the challenges of public life without succumbing to cynicism or despair.
"I just had a conversation with Dana White and he he's good friends with Trump and he talks to the fact that he seems to be resistant to the attacks is some aspect of that is just the psychology of bei..."
Gabbard elaborates on the central role of her faith in God in providing strength and clarity throughout her political journey. She emphasizes that her dedication to serving others and living a life pleasing to God is what sustains her amidst personal and political challenges.
"you not become cynical or or uh overcompensate the other direction that kind of stuff it really stems from having a clear sense of purpose I never saw you know I I've served in state government I've s..."
In this segment, Gabbard discusses the inclusive nature of Hinduism, highlighting its acceptance of other religions. She explains how her upbringing intertwined teachings from both the Bhagavad Gita and the New Testament, fostering a deep understanding of love for God beyond sectarian divides.
"fulfillment and contentment and strength so you you've spoken about the value of religious faith in your life of your Hindu faith and seeing the Bava as a spiritual guide so what role does faith in Go..."
Gabbard shares her personal interpretation of God within Hinduism, emphasizing the belief in one God with many names. She reflects on how her relationship with God serves as a source of comfort and guidance, illustrating the timeless truths found in the Bhagavad Gita that resonate across different faiths.
"God is to you like in in in the specifically the texts but also you personally what does he represent uh so for for Hinduism it's also God can be many there's also like a aspect where there's a it's i..."
The podcast concludes with a powerful quote from Dwight D. Eisenhower about the military-industrial complex. Gabbard reflects on the implications of a strong military establishment and the need for vigilance against the undue influence of military interests in government, emphasizing the importance of maintaining peace.
"God tulsy this was an honor to finally meet you to talk to you this was amazing thank you thank you Lex it's so wonderful to be here thank you for the opportunity thanks for listening to this conversa..."