Full Episode: https://youtu.be/YcVSgYz5SJ8 (October 2023)

Transcript: https://www.dwarkeshpatel.com/p/sarah-paine
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sarah-c-m-paine-how-xi-putin-think-maritime-vs-continental/id1516093381?i=1000630184469
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/073V9sl5GLf7R0JlMSFdK7?si=Z3Eu2BZiQiCe1rDINzCZDQ

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