"you have to have the free markets in order to build prosperity and prosperity means economic power if you have economic power no one messes with you or if they're gonna do it they're gonna have to thi..."

"magot wade an entrepreneur who is passionate about creating positive change in africa through economic empowerment this is the lex friedman podcast to support it please check out our sponsors in the d..."

"um then it is your duty to welcome them to be uber welcome welcoming to them so there's not a fear of the foreigner there's not a suspicion of the foreigner no no no and i think um this goes with the ..."

"because there's certainly parts of the world like austin is one of them where you just feel the kindness just radiate without knowing kindness from strangers you know um if i were to advance one thing..."

"yeah these are you know in the best possible version of the austin history this is the early days of silicon valley in austin and so you get a chance to build on top of this culture that's already bee..."

"would not want to see here in austin and i think maybe there's one way to try to i really would like to see austin not go the way san francisco did and other towns before i like how you pronounce san ..."

"thing by the way because san francisco likes to pride itself in oh you know we are so into diversity but i'm like if diversity for you means um gender difference of gender skin color you know maybe th..."

"whenever i go to new york city just the fact that there's a giant park in the middle of it uh i wonder like how did they pull this off this is amazing it's like to resist the force of the increasing p..."

"that's easy having a mind for poor that's the challenge and oftentimes it's we all have a heart for the poor but when it comes ventu then what do we do to have a real impact on making sure people get ..."

"west in many places in the world africa is almost uh talked about like it's one country like it's one place so in what ways is africa one community and in what ways is it many many many communities ju..."

"where things come up is especially nowadays with the african youth when we have to be reminded of a world bank when we have to be reminded of um even the world places like the world economic forum you..."

"general in africa um world bank u.n all of these organizations that they tend to qualify as imperialist organizations and it's not always the correct way to describe them but i'm sure you get the sent..."

"created a force for unity i've seen that in ukraine in the invasion in ukraine where it was a pretty divided not a pretty a very divided country with many factions but the invasion really forced every..."

"and it's not always obvious why because some have natural resources some don't some have wars some don't some have sort of authoritarian regimes some don't and some have democracies and all that kind ..."

"i just want to make sure that we are clear on that because some people might save it might be somewhere and be like well you you because i know what i'm going to talk to you about next and some people..."

"create value create value yes so when it comes to that we have found that um whether you're looking at two countries that start out the same we're talking the same people east germany west germany sou..."

"let me just maybe illustrate it with my own story and then i can take you back tell us your story who are you it's just because it started with me coming here you shouldn't even rob anything and now i..."

"because to me it's a defining story back home to take a shower it's a it takes time grandma has to you know make the charcoal catch on a little uh stove like you use at you know when you go camping an..."

"emotional just looking at the efficiency of things like how how easy it is how that we can um first of all in ukraine you currently can't fly right it's a war zone just even the the transportation you..."

"of that accomplished literally swimming through molasses this is some of the most most gross immoral unfair waste of human capital and so that is the started with you as a seven-year-old asking wait a..."

"i i have this credit uh degree in math or in in uh literature or whatever some very very educated people yet they're right there this is what they're doing so that's just at scale wasted human potenti..."

"potential so i'm starting to think this has nothing to do with a person per say because we're talking about the same person same background so maybe the same name features everything yeah now i'm star..."

"way i became an entrepreneur was not like i woke up and i'm like i want to make money so i'm going to become an entrepreneur you know like no and this is also another problem i have with people who ha..."

"one was a part of my culture we're talking about i mean my part of my cultural identity for christ's sake the juice of taranga you ask me what defines you i said taranga there's a juice for it so my c..."

"yes and uh especially when criticized by creating especially when you've been raised especially when and let's face it um do we all are we all a bundle of circumstances some happy some some worse yes ..."

"so dignified she's so dignified and that already kind of made me like we got to stop crying but and i told and i told her that i was quitting i could not look her in the eyes and um and she said look ..."

"that no no no no but it's like just like the leg up i got in my life give somebody else a leg up what are the things you're fighting against in africa when you try to build a business like that so the..."

"just cumbersome sort of physically it's cumbersome psychologically but there's uh there's a feeling like the system around you yeah there's a feeling like you're trapped it's a feeling like the system..."

"there and um i asked to speak to the head of a district for you know and um i'm just like going on and on and on and on about how we've been delayed this is gonna be a problem we have to produce every..."

"yours to keep going through the process you have to bribe somebody so it can go even the face is supposed to go let alone faster so here i'm thinking i have a problem and at that point i did what i do..."

"know like one of the super super professional ladders that normally the electricity companies have theirs was in some of a village and they didn't know if it was going to be back for another three day..."

"with your nonsense that you're imposing me right now which the only results you're gonna get like in my country do you know what we have to show for all of these the fact that the senegalese employees..."

"the law exactly and the laws are so taxation um this kind of restricting laws like laws that slow down the entrepreneurial momentum they do they do because in this case when my product comes what do p..."

"to stay in to stay alive and the best way for people to think of profits so that they'd not all twisted about it lex if i asked you what's your goal in the world you're probably going to tell me your ..."

"playing field that's what we want so so what you're trying to say so here so when i talked about sensors loss that's an example so when you make when you make the tariffs so high that and you're going..."

"believe in doing things that way so what i had to do was go to the ask again mayor we have a problem mayor is whenever he sees me he's like now what sounds like we've got a problem you're best friends..."

"which might end up only god knows where tomorrow maybe competitive competition or maybe even them they start a business and they compete with you because we've seen that so um you have to do that and ..."

"there i was doing these two businesses realizing the difference in treatment of um the doing business environment of the us compared to the doing business environment of senegal and at first i was lik..."

"it makes sense lex if you want to grow tomatoes you're gonna have to have two things one is a good seed right that has good attributes and then you're going to have to have a good environment for it i..."

"straightforward like it is maybe in texas where up till a fresh hold you owe me nothing go online five minutes fill out your taxes you're you're compliant keep bringing keep building your business bec..."

"one after another they show you that it is harder to do business in almost anywhere in sub-saharan africa than it is per se anywhere in scandinavia so it is telling you that scandinavian nations that ..."

"of at this point and you know what made me super excited about that beyond having finally found my answer i have to tell you when i found that answer i literally fell to my knees it was a type of feel..."

"i mean the beacon for your people your your your home this this power that you see that you feel all around to become uh to escape the feeling of being trapped is there a device you can give to people..."

"poverty of africa what do they talk about they're sitting there telling you oh yeah it's because of chronism it's because of racism it's because of imperialism it's because they're stealing you know r..."

"country is below the age of 25 years old so when we're talking i know we're talking about you know repopulation you know it's an important we're going to have to go for that maybe you'll get me going ..."

"criticized by creating young people are naturally wired to want to criticize by creating they're not sitting around waiting or complaining usually unless you put them in a tiny box and they have no ot..."

"the 30s of a stock market crash and the great depression and everything the world's and with all the lies that were told uh to to the world coming from the soviet union stalin while they were starving..."

"benefits of a doubt to some of these socialists who cut who came to it because they had to witness some of the horrors of you know of their times you know there's a revolution behind that it's ultimat..."

"and their society in their even in their economics so at the very least uh africa should have in terms of economic indices should be as free as the scandinavian countries you're just giving that examp..."

"bias so this is a problem this is a problem nobody cares about the economist anyway uh in mit the spirit of the entrepreneur burns bright not in the economics department because they just write op-ed ..."

"definitely not uh buildback uh buildback what do they call it buildback new or whatever they're calling it the wf you know like whatever whatever nonsense and you know stuff you're smoking over there ..."

"free markets this concept of emergence order there's no way there's no central planning that is smart enough that has the level of intel that street level people have trying to create something it's j..."

"have you looked around lately and look at the level of um niche that has happened in this country i mean you have clubs where you you have places where people are into guitar strings you know like som..."

"hear me tell an older person especially not my parents or my grandma or anybody like that for us to be able to tell an older person that's not true or you're lying it would never cross my mind because..."

"stuff it doesn't matter how busy i am but we're doing it actually to push back a little bit it's interesting because yeah the camaraderie over a meal is a beautiful thing i i got i mean i was in a pre..."

"entrepreneurship as well i mean of course there's a whole religious part and but our mantra is pray as if you will die tomorrow and work as if you will never die and the way we say the way somebody wi..."

"sense uh through all of that that's what brings out the heart of a cheetah which i think is a beautiful beautiful thing that encap encapsulate that whole trajectory which i think is the best possible ..."

"very clear about it and uh i'm all for harmony among people and among um among us peoples um if we can accept that we're all i know this sounds so cliche but some for me it's so true that we're all hu..."

"right that was right and that helped me um and i think when you internalize that so early on um it just makes you belong to the human family that you're part of i am part of a human family and i would..."

"that i am in this country they are americans in mid-america from a place that most other americans would maybe you know look down on because you know and some people would be like oh you're going to t..."

"eventually when i you know because something was brewing up in san francisco when i say i left my heart in san francisco because you know my uh my man would become my husband um we went to the same bu..."

"i've seen it a lot where people internalize that and they're able to walk lightly amidst hate yeah and walk past it yes and it it doesn't it doesn't uh stick to them in a way that they build resentmen..."

"of your brain that's that's proven by the way by a brain scientist but you also can feel it in your body that you engage in very different parts of your soul and so um i try myself i'm not always good..."

"well black lives matter has been a very hard one for me because do black lives matter those three words together in that order what they mean they mean everything because black lives do matter as any ..."

"the uk yes and with uh w.e.b dubois and marcus garvey big top african-american intellectuals of their times um www had so many things happened to him you know starting from the north being more more o..."

"so of course i could see why one could say especially in those times you've been lynched bodies burnt body parts showcase that windows stores meanwhile in africa under colonization in your own country..."

"happening and now think about it you're talking 57 you're talking 60. we're like at the we're like at this time now with the middle of a cold war because we have to put things in context if you want t..."

"nations become the president of the nations but remember what i told you most of them have the drunken the social socialist marxist socialism kool-aid so as these african nations become independent wi..."

"us and colonized us and you're fighting with with the people who represent you know um supposedly people who are saying that uh who had been fighting for equal rights for us with us for the longest ti..."

"the first 40 years of our freedom years and all over the continent more or less that's what you had and on top of that something else that the french don't know the people don't know is france with it..."

"was tolerable 60 some years ago today no the blacks of today cannot be serious about black lives mattering and saying in the same sentence and we're going to be socially smart mark's a socialist if th..."

"us every day despite despite the obstacles that's what we need senegal becomes rich and synagogue can become and will be richer than france the culinary singapore did it we can do it manly rich nigeri..."

"someone said you know nice people will make it to heaven but not to harvard necessarily it's true it's interesting that pity does not ever turn into respect it would be nice if it did it would be nice..."

"let me ask you though about racism do you as you travel through this world as you travel through america feel the burn of hatred um you've spoken about the revolutions that have been fought throughout..."

"and to lose your self of agency it's of course easier say than than done and some among us need a little bit more help to not succumb for it than others do and i've seen it it might be harder for you ..."

"is does racism exist yes do you think it's gonna stop me from doing anything i have to do no might it make it harder longer prob maybe but it will not stop me but for it not to stop me i can't engage ..."

"i i needed to understand what discrimination was how does it work is it true what candy is saying is it true what d'angelo is saying is it true that but i it could it could be that your bad your race ..."

"and uh and the software it runs on is um what do you call it is a cultural imprint all of this information that we're getting from the disney movies that you're reading telling you that themselves are..."

"where they are but we have kept this tendency to go for fear uh fear or flight i don't know how they say it and so we have this you know courtesan done by the stress you know stress triggers but back ..."

"stereotypes about the size of whatever and she was like no but you see you once you start because there's this whole thing of um it's the five step thing bias awareness this uh underst basically at th..."

"it's a cultural imprint because it's part of culture and that might be there could be you know i grew up in the soviet union where the gender roles were stronger than in other places that's right and ..."

"and then but then the world was just like we don't want to be told we're part of a problem so but i still reckon that it is the type of mindfulness type of practice that's going to happen and it's one..."

"bishop omar and the people uh he passed away unfortunately but today we have anton luck and lucky who was in jail for having killed his um cousin you know he um had started i think he started the the ..."

"johnson is getting people out of jail every single day literally and then people like anton lucky and his team are giving them the tools to live the gang life to to be better people to go for a life o..."

"and then they go out of business and now instead of helping anybody you actually sent all the kids who depended on these adults working in these places now they have to join the rank of kids who need ..."

"we got a challenge to have a mind for the poor or to have a mind for the lesser fortunate maybe in this country it is easy and lesser fortunate because you know for anybody that you see you you feel l..."

"its current conflict with the war in ukraine what are your thoughts there well you've seen that many countries when it was time to vote some of up abstained you know which in a way says something i th..."

"the african um union and african nations in general are saying we don't it's this case we're almost like you guys are fighting you guys are fighting maybe for once we have to watch it for ourselves ye..."

"collection we no longer we're not there when the goodies are being shared so i think it's it's definitely one of those situations but for me it still is hard because i watch everything that's going on..."

"with a non-african president i'm sorry but for me it's too close to begging listen it's hard to be a leader it's such a difficult dance because in some sense sort of the the flip side of that is you'r..."

"also for me every young african i see today i realize how stupid the rest of the world is if they're not supporting what i'm trying to talk about because even if you don't want to do it because that's..."

"um so in the case of the african nations that that zone can then spread yes it can not only spread but maybe let's say senegal if senegal was to go for this here you have this one and then over there ..."

"this is a promise and people are like oh but you guys are crazy but i'm like just like with everything do you know how many attempts it took before the first flight you know the wright brothers took o..."

"us call ourselves um an enlightened society as a whole when you have such when you have this it's a humongous continent have you seen the size of it you know yeah it's it's it's hard to fathom actuall..."

"happen and um our youth is amazing you should see them so full of creativity and it doesn't matter you know you were telling me what makes you different many things makes us all different you know rwa..."

"fixed and that's the beauty of it and that's why i am so i'm almost dizzy with i get dizzy with uh with hope i know my history i know my economics my fellow humans and all of that and we know that the..."

"now going back to that hard moment this dark place you went in in your mind in your personal life story you lost your husband um what gave you strength during that time uh what were the what were the ..."

"so i stuck around because of duty i felt a very strong sense of duty my duty was in this case i think stronger than my than my pain i don't know if it's possible i don't know how that was possible but..."

"about what makes the country rich and for me to understand that um my network i was very much into um left oriented network and um to to just start to to see all of this i tried to address it to reali..."

"um [Music] then you just wonder have i have i been asleep this whole time and then you start to wonder remember when you ask me who am i at some point lex i literally was like a candle in the wind i f..."

"is because um actually it's one of those relationships that got built based on intellect first you see at some point i was in the position where i could start a foundation after having built my first ..."

"it was needed and so michael somebody found out about what i was doing because back in the days in foster school they would write a lot about me and everything and so michael along with john mackey th..."

"of liberation came upon me like i i have no other word to describe that true liberation the liberation that comes from a peer to finally understand and be vindicated in your own you know understand in..."

"then that's why today i'm sorry but i have no patience for the blm organizers founders especially founders i don't know what organizers think but the founders told us what they stand for and i say guy..."

"are in dakar the new um the new the new centers of uh tech and and um you know crypto even is somewhere maybe nigeria so you see that future you see that future clearly i do i do i do it's a beautiful..."

"nothing nothing well guy you're one of the most incredible people i've ever talked to i've ever thank you so much this is truly an honor thank you for everything you're doing thank you for the fire th..."