"the following is a conversation with jeff shaneline a scientist at nist interested in opto electronic intelligence we have a deep technical dive into computing hardware that will make jim keller proud..."

"fascinating paper you um authored called optoelectronic intelligence so maybe we could start by talking about this paper and start with the basic questions what is optoelectronic intelligence yeah so ..."

"be the most controversial part of our conversation where you're gonna make some enemies so let me ask because we've been talking about physics and engineering a which group of people is smarter and mo..."

"you mentioned this uh word superconductivity so what does that have to do with what we're talking about right okay so in a semiconductor as i tried to describe a second ago you can sort of uh in induc..."

"when you talk about computation how do you think about it do you think purely on just um the the switching or do you think something a little bit larger scale a circuit taken together performing the b..."

"optoelectronic intelligence you say electrons excel at computation while light is excellent for communication maybe you can linger and say in this context what do you mean by computation and communica..."

"distinction and why are electrons uh good at computation and light good at communication yes this is um there's a lot that goes into it i guess but just try to speak to the simplest part of it electro..."

"let's zoom in at this very particular question of computation on a processor and communication between processors so what does this system look like that you're envisioning one of the places you're en..."

"and where is this amazing group of people located nist is the national institute of standards and technology the the the larger facility is out in gaithersburg maryland our team is located in boulder ..."

"these systems that uh uses supercontext super connectivity how do you make it happen so to me it starts with thinking about the communication network you know for sure that the ability of each neuron ..."

"let's go like far into the future let's imagine this gigantic neuromorphic computing system that uh simulates all of our realities it currently is mentioned matrix four so this thing uh this powerful ..."

"return to loop neurons why are they called loop neurons yeah the term loop neurons comes from the fact like we've been talking about that they rely heavily on these superconducting loops so even in a ..."

"applications to machine learning okay so what like if you look at the scale of 5 10 20 years is the is it possible to uh before we understand the nature of human intelligence and general intelligence ..."

"we've talked about a lot of fascinating chemistry and physics and engineering and we're always running up against this issue that nature seems to dictate what's easy and what's hard so you have this u..."

"smolin and what kind of ideas does he have okay lee smolin is a theoretical physicist who back in the late 1980s published a paper in the early 1990s introduced this idea of cosmological natural selec..."

"whatever i mean broadly thinking because we tend to think other alien civilizations would be very human-like but if we think of alien civilizations out there as basically generators of black holes how..."

"there's this concept i think it's called the rare earth hypothesis which is that basically stating that okay microbes were here right away after the haitian era where we were being bombarded well afte..."