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Will AI Gatekeepers Tell You What You Can Build? – Mark Zuckerberg
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Full Episode: https://youtu.be/bc6uFV9CJGg Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mark-zuckerberg-llama-3-open-sourcing-%2410b-models-caeser/id1516093381?i=1000652877239 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6Lbsk4HtQZfkJ4dZjh7E7k?si=GOqj7hUdSaWSgi7ULWXjMA Transcript: https://www.dwarkeshpatel.com/p/mark-zuckerberg Me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/dwarkesh_sp
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The Gatekeepers of Innovation
Mark Zuckerberg discusses the challenges posed by major tech companies like Apple and Google as gatekeepers in the mobile ecosystem. He expresses frustration over how these companies can dictate what developers are allowed to build, emphasizing the importance of open-source models to prevent such control and promote innovation.
"so one thing that I think generally sucks about the mobile ecosystem is that like you have these two gatekeeper companies Apple and Google that can tell you what you're allowed to build and there are ..."
The Dangers of AI Concentration
Zuckerberg warns about the potential dangers of AI concentration in the hands of a few powerful institutions. He argues that a widely deployed AI system, which is progressively hardened over time, is healthier than a scenario where one entity holds a significantly more powerful AI. This segment highlights the need for balanced AI distribution to mitigate risks.
"source perspective I think a lot of developers don't want those companies telling them what they can build either and this is one of the reasons why I'm kind of philosophically So Pro open source is I..."
Open Sourcing for Efficiency
In this segment, Zuckerberg reflects on the benefits of open-sourcing technology, citing examples like the Open Compute Project. He explains how open-sourcing can lead to industry standardization, cost savings, and increased efficiency in AI development, ultimately benefiting the entire tech ecosystem.
"and there are risks on all sides but I think that that's one risk that I think people I don't hear them talking about quite as much the $10 billion model suppose it's it's totally safe you've done the..."
The Impact of Open Source
Zuckerberg contemplates the broader impact of open-source technologies like PyTorch and React on the world compared to social media. He acknowledges the significant role these technologies play in powering a large part of the internet, suggesting that their influence may surpass that of Meta's social media platforms.
"dollars so awesome right okay so there's multiple ways where open source I think could be helpful for us one is if people figure out how to run the models more cheaply well we're going to be spending ..."