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"billion people on this planet probably half of them have cell phones but you know just remarkable it's probably more micro processors than there are people sure I don't know what the ratio is but I'm ..."

"comes from and that has two pieces as well and that is the control which is kind of the brain of the processor and the what's called the arithmetic unit it's kind of the Brawn of the computer so if yo..."

"the microprocessor does computation it processes information and most of the thing it does is basically earth net arithmetic operations what what are the operations by the way it's a lot like a calcul..."

"kind of set back and said wow I didn't expect it to go this fast this good well the the fundamental driving force is what scored Moore's law which was named after Gordon Moore who's a Berkeley alumnus..."

"in I think in the in the 70s and said not only did this going to happen he wrote what would be the implications of that and in this article from 1965 he he shows ideas like computers being in cars and..."

"if for all for all that's for the people at the time these first URLs and that's the you know ww select stuff with the HTTP people thought it was looks like alien alien writing right they'd see these ..."

"going between these layers of abstractions is called a compiler and it basically translates it's a translator between levels we said the translator will handle it so the technical question was well si..."

"this risk controversial risk ideas proved to be maybe factors of three or four better I love that this idea was controversial and most kind of like a rebellious so that's in the context of what was mo..."

"that kind of settled to these benefits it's not completely intuitive to me why risk has for the most part one yes so why do that happen yeah yeah and maybe I can sort of say a bunch of dumb things tha..."

"versus coming up with like I said a ton of complicated instructions then over time you know years maybe decades you come up with compilers that can reduce those into simple instructions for you yeah s..."

"changed with a famous operating system called UNIX which is kind of the grandfather of all the operating systems today so the UNIX demonstrated that you could write something as complicated as an oper..."

"and so that that was the debate right is because and people would acknowledge that these simpler instructions could lead to a faster computer you can think of mono syllabic constructions you could say..."

"to the code that's written by human it's uh at least to me again perhaps a dumb intuition but it feels like there might have been more layers sort of different kinds of humans stacked as well of each ..."

"are done today so still today many of the layers that you'll you'll deep deal with you may deal with debuggers you may deal with linkers there's libraries many of those today will be written in c++ sa..."

"for me I just believed in the power of our ideas I thought what we were saying made sense Moore's Law is going to move fast the other thing that I didn't mention is one of the surprises of these compl..."

"people that say yeah still are but and what happened was what was interesting Intel a bunch of the system companies with Sisk instruction sets of vocabulary they gave up but not Intel what Intel did t..."

"software base and which also had very high volumes you know a hundred million personal computers per year so the sisk architecture in the business world was actually one in in this PC era so just goin..."

"nanoseconds so that's the clock cycle time but there's another factor which is what's the average number of clock cycles that takes per instructions so it's number of instructions average number of cl..."

"what are the instructions in the RISC instruction set just to get an intuition okay 1995 I was asked scientific the future of what microprocessor so I and that well as I'd seen these predictions and u..."

"so those surprisingly there hasn't some radical new idea even though we have you know a million times as many transistors as we had back then but what are the basic constructions and how did they chan..."

"risk the four risk projects of 1980s so what is risk 5 involved so leaders 5 is another instruction set of vocabulary it's learned from the mistakes of the past but it still has if you look at the the..."

"idea and then we started supporting it and tried to make it happen so this was you know kind we accidentally stumbled into this and to this need in our timing was good and so it's really taking off th..."

"the more difficult one but if if risk five really catches on and you know you could in a period of a decade you can imagine that's changing over to give a sense why risk five our arm is dominated you ..."

"and kind of explore different little sides of this but let me ask one sort of romanticized question what to you is the most beautiful aspect or idea of risk instruction set or instruction sets for thi..."

"do that so this is fantastic educationally is so you can explain computers you only have to explain forty instructions and not thousands of them also if you invent some wild and crazy new technology l..."

"beautiful notion that there's it's almost like a nudge towards here's the simple core that's the essential yeah I think the surprising thing is still if we if we brought back you know the pioneers fro..."

"haven't changed that much in in decades it's what a surprising outcome so underlying all computation all Turing machines all artificial intelligent systems perhaps might be a very simple instruction s..."

"happening right now is people adding accelerators to their microprocessors that only work well for some domains and by sheer coincidence at the same time that this is happening has been this revolutio..."

"counter-intuitively the machine learning mechanism you can say is domain-specific but because it's leveraging data it's actually could be very broad in terms of in terms of the domains it could be app..."

"happening again tremendous opportunities of people because we're fundamentally changing how software is built and how we're running it so which layer of the abstraction do you think most of the accele..."

"marketplace because of this enthusiasm around hardware for machine learning is getting you know probably a billions of dollars invested in start-up companies we're seeing startup companies go belly-up..."

"line in the future brilliant so maybe just a linker briefly I'm a love metrics I love standards that everyone can gather around what are some interesting aspects of that portfolio of metrics well one ..."

"perspective as long as the results are fair Europe you can live with it okay you know you have a tip your hat to to your colleagues at another institution boy they did a better job than this what you ..."

"in your arguments right and so from a marketing perspective you have to be careful today that you didn't have to be careful that there'll be people who put off the flaw you can get the word out the fl..."

"about holding itself to standards of different the amount of incredible benchmarks in terms of the different computer vision naturally new processing - inaudible it you know historically it wasn't alw..."

"you're the best in the world and I think the people I think they weren't purposely misleading I think if you don't have benchmarks I mean how do you know you know you could have your intuition it's ki..."

"kind of thing so I'm happy that other people are working on it but just you know it's hard with all the news about it not to think that it's right around the corner and that's why we need to do someth..."

"corollary might not be true but certainly you know Moore's law that was the beauty of Moore's law it was a very simple it's like equals mc-squared right it was like wow what an amazing prediction it's..."

"things yeah I don't like that the the idea of Moore's law is tied up with marketing I it would be nice if it's whether it's marketing or it's it's well it could be affecting business but they could al..."

"are unaware of that so a way to try and get their attention is to say that Moore's law is slowing down and that's gonna affect your assumptions and you know we're trying to get the word out and when c..."

"can we talk a little bit about one other exciting space arguably the same level of impact as your work with risk is raid and in your in 1988 you co-authored a paper a case for redundant array of inexp..."

"the disk would be the size of washing machines and here's something the size of a kind of the size of a book or so this is I wonder what we could do with that well we the Randy was involved in the in ..."

"break every two weeks so we thought about the idea and said well we got to address the reliability so we did it originally performance but we had do reliability so the name redundant array of inexpens..."

"which were true they were the size of the I don't know eight inches diameter than five inches than three inches of diameters and so that it made sense to figure out how to deal things with an array of..."

"bigger storage systems they've added more we doesn't see so they could have more failures and they have biggest thing that happened in storage is for decades it was based on things physically spinning..."

"those when the highest honors so they're five of us on that picture there's Manuel Blum Richard Karp me Randy Katz and John osterhaus contemporaries of mine I mentioned Randy already all of us are in ..."

"something in teaching that it's the Richard Fineman right right yeah is there something about teaching that actually makes your research makes you think deeper and more outside the box and yeah absolu..."

"stimulate the the research another romanticized question but what's your favorite concept or idea to teach what inspires you or you see inspire the students is there something to pasta my or or puts t..."

"guy so you wrestled UCLA among many other things you've done in your life competitively in sports and science on you've wrestled maybe again continue in their immense sessions but what have you learne..."

"I was I was both I was kind of the age cutoff I was who's December first and so I was almost always the youngest person in my class and I matured later on you know our family badgered later so I was a..."

"coaches and they believed even though wrestling's an individual sport that would be be more successful as a team if we bonded together you do things that we would support each other rather than everyb..."

"know having and you know this is a cliche is that people don't die wishing they'd spent more time in the office right is I reflect upon my career there have been you know a half a dozen or a dozen thi..."