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DEBATE: Feminist Women Vs Non-Feminist Women

DEBATE: Feminist Women Vs Non-Feminist Women

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Has modern feminism betrayed the very women it promised to empower? Deborah France-White (Guilty Feminist), Louise Perry, and Erica Komisar go head-to-head on sexual freedom. Deborah Frances-White is a bestselling author and host of The Guilty Feminist podcast, Louise Perry is a journalist and author of The Case Against the Sexual Revolution, and Erica Komisar is a clinical social worker, psychoanalyst, and author of books such as, ‘Chicken Little the Sky Isn't Falling: Raising Resilient Adolescents in the New Age of Anxiety’.  ◽️ In this heated debate, they discuss: ◽️ What casual sex is really doing to women.  ◽️ Why relationships are declining. ◽️ The parenting crisis that no one’s talking about. ◽️ Why fewer people are having children. ◽️ How modern dating is affecting female self-worth. — ⏱ Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 02:14 Introducing the Panel 03:28 What Is the Sexual Revolution? 10:01 Autonomy, Freedom, and Agency as a Byproduct of the Sexual Revolution 14:48 Casual Sex and Hookup Culture 30:47 One Sexual Partner for Life 33:00 Age of Marriage Increasing Over Time 33:40 Emotional Consequences of Sex 39:36 Feminists Typically Have Had Trauma 43:13 Agency as a Personality Trait 47:27 Sex Education in Schools 49:19 Female Pleasure 51:12 Is Sexual Freedom Making Us Happy? 53:36 Feeling Bullied by the Narrative of Freedom 57:29 Ads 59:32 Manosphere and Tradwives 01:06:55 Do Women Want Men to Be Providers? 01:07:46 Children and Gender Roles 01:12:08 Poor Mothers Looking After Children 01:18:17 The Role Feminism Has Had on Motherhood 01:22:20 Would Steven Take 3 Years Off Work to Raise Children? 01:23:28 Men and Women's Nurturing Hormones 01:27:57 We Can't Be Neutral About Policies 01:30:24 The Narrative That Having Children Is Miserable 01:32:12 Female Guilt 01:33:20 Parenthood and Narcissism 01:41:27 Birth Rates Declining 01:42:51 Traditional Gender Roles 01:48:29 Demonizing Feminism 01:52:38 Link Between Political Stance and Number of Children 01:56:48 Ads 01:58:33 Pornography 02:06:02 Masculine Virtues 02:11:16 Do Boys and Girls Need to Be Parented Differently? 02:12:45 Chivalry 02:13:50 Evolutionary Differences 02:19:05 Quotas in Education 02:21:02 Final Thoughts Deborah: ◽️ Instagram - https://bit.ly/3ZZFB39 ◽️ Deborah’s book, ‘Six Conversations We’re Too Scared To Have’, here: https://bit.ly/45ufBAh Follow Erica: ◽️ Instagram - https://bit.ly/4lchbvi ◽️ Erica’s book, ‘Chicken Little the Sky Isn’t Falling: Raising Resilient Adolescents in the New Age of Anxiety’, here: https://bit.ly/3G2OhyI Follow Louise: ◽️ X - https://bit.ly/3I1aHRu ◽️ Louise’s book, ‘The Case Against the Sexual Revolution: A New Guide to Sex in the 21st Century’, here: https://bit.ly/4kN5QSD The Diary Of A CEO: ◽️ Join DOAC circle here -https://doaccircle.com/ ◽️ The 1% Diary is back - limited time only: https://bit.ly/3YFbJbt ◽️ The Diary Of A CEO Conversation Cards (Second Edition): https://g2ul0.app.link/f31dsUttKKb ◽️ Get email updates - https://bit.ly/diary-of-a-ceo-yt ◽️ Follow Steven - https://g2ul0.app.link/gnGqL4IsKKb Sponsors: Stan Store - Visit https://link.stan.store/joinstanchallenge to join the challenge! KetoneIQ - Visit https://ketone.com/STEVEN for 30% off your subscription order

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0:00 - 2:14
2:14 duration454 words

Intro

"The feminism movement didn't unite women. It split women. I feel totally listen. 50% of young women don't want to have children. They're really preoccupied with making money and materialism. But we're..."

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2:14 - 3:28
1:13 duration229 words

Introducing the Panel

"Let's start with some introductions. Louise, what is your professional background and what do I need to understand and know about your experiences that feed into your perspective on this subject? So, ..."

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3:28 - 10:02
6:34 duration1158 words

What Is the Sexual Revolution?

"Louise, can you define for me what you mean by sexual revolution for anybody that doesn't know because it's going to be quite an important term today. Right. So I think that there are two things reall..."

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10:02 - 14:49
4:46 duration862 words

Autonomy, Freedom, and Agency as a Byproduct of the Sexual Revolution

"So I think that can I give an example that is like quite dark but I think throws us immediately into like some of these really difficult questions about freedom and who's freedom right there's this li..."

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14:49 - 30:48
15:59 duration2768 words

Casual Sex and Hookup Culture

"there. Um despite the general decline in sex, especially amongst younger people, societal acceptance of casual sex has grown quite rapidly. In the UK, approval of casual sex rose from just 10% in 1999..."

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30:48 - 33:01
2:12 duration380 words

One Sexual Partner for Life

"you're engaged, the next step is marriage. So presumably you're going to marry that person. I.e. you're going to sleep with the first person you sleep with if you take that advice is your partner. So ..."

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33:01 - 33:40
0:39 duration118 words

Age of Marriage Increasing Over Time

"here that somewhat dovetales into this conversation about when you should have sex and also marriage as a subject. And it shows that from the 197 in 1970s roughly women would get married at about 21 y..."

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33:40 - 39:36
5:55 duration1023 words

Emotional Consequences of Sex

"it's worth kiss. That's why that happened. It's because it used to be that if you were having sex with someone, you were risking pregnancy. And now that's not I mean it is still true because actually ..."

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39:36 - 43:14
3:38 duration631 words

Feminists Typically Have Had Trauma

"marry your first partner. Um, but there's something very important about the emotional connection and that's coming from maybe me being a therapist and knowing and seeing the pain that the young peopl..."

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43:14 - 47:28
4:13 duration772 words

Agency as a Personality Trait

"agency because this word came up earlier and I've been thinking about a lot about it recently and I just find it interesting as a subject. So I I think that actually a better way of thinking about age..."

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47:28 - 49:19
1:50 duration319 words

Sex Education in Schools

"separate um young people from what you were talking about adult women. I I want to separate them because they're not the same species. Um there's so much development going on in adolescence. And adole..."

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49:19 - 51:12
1:53 duration358 words

Female Pleasure

"Can I also say and I don't know that it's true that in the UK that we're teaching nine-year-olds about anal by the way but the thing that's lacking in sex education often here is pleasure. They do not..."

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51:12 - 53:37
2:24 duration431 words

Is Sexual Freedom Making Us Happy?

"There are so many young women who um are looking to understand the secret sauce. what what is going to make them the happiest? You know, I don't love the word happy, but I think our young people are s..."

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53:37 - 57:30
3:52 duration698 words

Feeling Bullied by the Narrative of Freedom

"actually think what does bear out is that human beings universally from birth crave security. We know that they crave safety and security and stability from birth. And we don't teach that. We say just..."

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57:30 - 59:33
2:03 duration416 words

Ads

"biggest investment I've ever made in a company because of my girlfriend. I came home one night and my lovely girlfriend was up at 1:00 a.m. in the morning pulling her hair out as she tried to piece to..."

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59:33 - 1:06:56
7:22 duration1409 words

Manosphere and Tradwives

"talk. Um, I was I found this graph as well, which just shows the sort of explosion in people searching tradife, which means traditional wife. Yeah. And it seems from 2024, there's been this real explo..."

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1:06:56 - 1:07:47
0:50 duration186 words

Do Women Want Men to Be Providers?

"then on that partnership? Um, as a man, I still kind of assume that a woman is more likely to choose me if I have more money than her and I can pay the bills and I take care of And so I looked into so..."

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1:07:47 - 1:12:08
4:21 duration835 words

Children and Gender Roles

"reason for that though. So what we haven't talked about, can we talk about children now? Sure. We can talk about whatever you like. Um if you want to raise children and be the primary attachment figur..."

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1:12:08 - 1:18:17
6:08 duration1160 words

Poor Mothers Looking After Children

"in daycare, or now, let's talk about very poor women because this is always going to come back at me. What about very poor women? There are so many solutions for very poor women that do not involve da..."

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1:18:17 - 1:22:20
4:02 duration781 words

The Role Feminism Has Had on Motherhood

"are your thoughts on this, Louise, in terms of the role that feminism has had on mother mothers and motherhood and someone in the trenches? So, we I I mean, I should say I partly as a consequence of r..."

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1:22:20 - 1:23:28
1:07 duration200 words

Would Steven Take 3 Years Off Work to Raise Children?

"you a question, Stephen? Go ahead. Would you take a three-year career break? Would you be able to do that? Would I be able to take a threeear emotionally, mentally? So, I would be It's possible, but m..."

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1:23:28 - 1:27:57
4:28 duration860 words

Men and Women's Nurturing Hormones

"that. I mean we just have different expectations from I just don't want to go back to men are from Mars and women are from Venus. No no I want to give some evidence of that. So there is hormonal resea..."

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1:27:57 - 1:30:25
2:28 duration506 words

We Can't Be Neutral About Policies

"about policy? So, like the example I gave, right? The fact that at the moment you basically will not get any money from the British government unless you put your child in daycare. They will not give ..."

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1:30:25 - 1:32:13
1:47 duration338 words

The Narrative That Having Children Is Miserable

"extremely important for whichever parent decides to be the primary carer to have windows outside where they get fed emotionally intellectually creativ creatively. If what floats their boat is early ch..."

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1:32:13 - 1:33:21
1:08 duration175 words

Female Guilt

"because I didn't get to answer that because you said you're making a lot of women feel guilty. So, guilt is actually quite a healthy emotion in small supply. Guilt is a very healthy. It means that you..."

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1:33:21 - 1:41:28
8:07 duration1519 words

Parenthood and Narcissism

"think it was um it was Penelopey Leech who said well before me that don't have children if you don't want to care for them because you can have a very productive and creative life without having child..."

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1:41:28 - 1:42:52
1:24 duration245 words

Birth Rates Declining

"said something there which links to the next thing I wanted to talk about which is if we don't correct this in some way, we're not going to have mothers. And when we look at the birth rates and the fe..."

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1:42:52 - 1:48:29
5:36 duration1132 words

Traditional Gender Roles

"degrades. Is it our job to be down at the soup kitchen and checking on the elderly neighbor? Surely that's the community's job. We should raise our sons and daughters to do that. All children should b..."

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1:48:29 - 1:52:39
4:10 duration761 words

Demonizing Feminism

"I I agree that parenting is difficult work. I agree that raising the next generation is extremely valuable. I agree that the people who do it, whoever they are, should be uh respected and should be it..."

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1:52:39 - 1:56:49
4:10 duration773 words

Link Between Political Stance and Number of Children

"is exactly why we need to be thinking about maternal feminism because if basically if feminism cannot reproduce itself literally if it if it if it is the case that a feminist society is a is a very ve..."

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1:56:49 - 1:58:34
1:44 duration347 words

Ads

"keep what I'm about to say to yourself. I'm inviting 10,000 of you to come even deeper into the D of a CEO. Welcome to my inner circle. This is a brand new private community that I'm launching to the ..."

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1:58:34 - 2:06:02
7:28 duration1446 words

Pornography

"I want to talk about one last subject. Um, which is the subject of pornography. You left this for the end. Cool. We're not perfect. Yeah. I just I'm I'm interested to see how you all think that the im..."

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2:06:02 - 2:11:17
5:14 duration1051 words

Masculine Virtues

"else. I want to ask you all a question just for me which is something that I contend with now that the world has shifted and changed and definitions have shifted which is about masculinity and what it..."

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2:11:17 - 2:12:45
1:27 duration254 words

Do Boys and Girls Need to Be Parented Differently?

"and girls fundamentally, biologically, physiologically neurologically different? And therefore, do they need a different approach? They're hormonally different. We kind of understand that. We all agre..."

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2:12:45 - 2:13:50
1:05 duration241 words

Chivalry

"does what does a young man, what should his virtues be? You said empathy and those kinds of things. And then on the chivalry side of things, should I be holding the door open for every woman that walk..."

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2:13:50 - 2:19:07
5:16 duration1040 words

Evolutionary Differences

"that's nothing to do with gender. Steve, is there not something evolutionary in that if we look back through our ancestry that the the qualities of fertility are more attractive to to men and the qual..."

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2:19:07 - 2:21:02
1:55 duration376 words

Quotas in Education

"quotas. And this may sound radical, but when it comes to college, it should be 50/50. So my kids went to a school and when it came to nursery school, they balanced the class. That means if you go to a..."

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2:21:02 - 2:27:31
6:29 duration1225 words

Final Thoughts

"thank you all so much for being here. I just want to give you an opportunity just to summarize your thoughts on the sexual revolution in two sentences if you can. I'm going to repeat the insight of a ..."