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Marc Andreessen on the State of Film and Hollywood

Marc Andreessen on the State of Film and Hollywood

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Hollywood is going through a major cultural and creative reset, and Marc Andreessen thinks it’s long overdue. In this episode of Monitoring the Situation, Marc joins Erik Torenberg and Katherine Boyle to dissect the past decade of filmmaking, from the rise of “the message” in every movie to the return of genuine comedy and art. They cover the post-woke shift in Hollywood, the financial collapse of the streaming era, and why AI could spark a renaissance for a new generation of independent filmmakers. Marc also shares his favorite recent films (and the ones he thinks aged poorly), why Eddington might be the first true “Capital-A Art” film in years, and how AI could democratize storytelling the way digital cameras did in the 90s. Follow Marc on X: x.com/pmarca Follow Katherine on X: x.com/KTmBoyle Follow Erik on X: x.com/eriktorenberg Timecodes: 00:00 – Movies as Modern Myths 03:53 – Why Movies Still Matter 05:08 – The Great American Novel vs. The Great American Movie 07:03 – Taylor Swift, Scorsese & Cultural Artifacts 09:09 – Art That Stands the Test of Time 10:20 – The Great Films of 2019 & the Hollywood Shift 11:00 – The State of Hollywood, Post-COVID 13:43 – Streaming’s Rise & the Broken Economics 15:34 – “The Message” and Hollywood’s Cultural Capture 19:00 – The Post-Message Era Begins 20:06 – One Battle After Another: Paul Thomas Anderson’s Miss 27:41 – Eddington: The First Real Post-2020 Art Film 31:02 – Joaquin Phoenix, Pedro Pascal & Real America 39:00 – What Great Filmmaking Could Look Like Again 43:00 – Hollywood’s Fever Breaks & Comedy Returns 48:49 – AI in Filmmaking & the Future of Creativity 52:26 – Naked Gun Revival and the Return of Humor 56:26 – Fantastic Four and Pro-Family Cinema 58:17 – Could Atlas Shrugged Be Made Today? 1:03:54 – South Park, AI & a New Era of Film Creation 1:07:57 – Closing Thoughts If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to like, subscribe, and share with your friends! Resources: Find a16z on X: https://x.com/a16z Find a16z on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/a16z Listen to the a16z Podcast on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5bC65RDvs3oxnLyqqvkUYX Listen to the a16z Podcast on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/a16z-podcast/id842818711 Follow our host: https://x.com/eriktorenberg Please note that the content here is for informational purposes only; should NOT be taken as legal, business, tax, or investment advice or be used to evaluate any investment or security; and is not directed at any investors or potential investors in any a16z fund. a16z and its affiliates may maintain investments in the companies discussed. For more details please see a16z.com/disclosures.

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0:00 - 3:54
3:54 duration873 words

Movies as Modern Myths

"I think movies play the role in our culture that myths and legends used to play in ancient cultures or that novels used to play 100 years ago. They're the art form that that is capable of basically co..."

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3:54 - 5:08
1:14 duration313 words

Why Movies Still Matter

"know the the the sort of uh you know the entertainment factor is you know remains very high. Um having said that you know I think movies and Katherine I see if you agree with me on this or not. Um I t..."

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5:08 - 7:04
1:55 duration473 words

The Great American Novel vs. The Great American Movie

"Katherine, would you agree with that? >> Yeah. No, no, definitely. I mean, I think uh I I think it was I think in slow decline probably the last 25 years um because fewer like you know probably the 90..."

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7:04 - 9:09
2:04 duration522 words

Taylor Swift, Scorsese & Cultural Artifacts

"you families with young girls like you know went to see it and I I remember it at the time because it was the same it it it it went big the same week that Martin Scaresy's movie uh Killers in the Flow..."

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9:09 - 10:21
1:11 duration333 words

Art That Stands the Test of Time

"that. And so like I I like for sure it's true that the audience overall has fragmented. For sure it's true that like the internet you know has like you know created you know is sucking away you know j..."

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10:21 - 11:01
0:40 duration182 words

The Great Films of 2019 & the Hollywood Shift

"films in 2019. There was 1917. Uh Parasite won the Oscar. Stole it from Once Upon a Time in Hollywood in my opinion, but still was like a decent film. Like there were a lot of great films in 2019. And..."

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11:01 - 13:44
2:43 duration732 words

The State of Hollywood, Post-COVID

"the the theater business has obviously taken a giant hit kind of in the wake of co you know co was like this big, you know, was this big step down, you know, because the theaters, you know, were close..."

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13:44 - 15:34
1:49 duration494 words

Streaming’s Rise & the Broken Economics

"affected things a lot in in Hollywood in a very negative way, which is, uh, streaming cut off the financial upside. um to the to to films and TV. And so uh films used to when they were hits they they ..."

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15:34 - 19:01
3:27 duration861 words

“The Message” and Hollywood’s Cultural Capture

"u, capital T, the big thing that happened, of course, which is Hollywood being on the vanguard of culture got hit by the thing, um, the cultural change of the last decade, like incredibly hard. And, y..."

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19:01 - 20:07
1:05 duration264 words

The Post-Message Era Begins

"sort of post message uh um uh you know, kind of era. Um and you know, we don't know what era we're heading into. Maybe there's a new message or something, but like we're we're we're we're there's a ph..."

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20:07 - 27:41
7:33 duration1982 words

One Battle After Another: Paul Thomas Anderson’s Miss

"it's literally like a time capsule. It's like a 2022 time capsule. It's literally like time frozen 2022. Um, and in 2022, this movie would have been like, "Oh my god, like this movie is like got the m..."

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27:41 - 31:03
3:22 duration825 words

Eddington: The First Real Post-2020 Art Film

"just not that big of a hit but like I I have hopes for it and I hope it becomes one of these mythic movies which is Edington and uh let me let me start by asking have you guys both at this point seen ..."

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31:03 - 39:00
7:56 duration1984 words

Joaquin Phoenix, Pedro Pascal & Real America

"the thing is Edington like there's just nothing in the town. Like it's like 600 people. It's just like the streets are empty, the stores are empty. I mean it's like a town that was empty before CO, ri..."

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39:00 - 43:01
4:00 duration1119 words

What Great Filmmaking Could Look Like Again

"he said what was it the his term is it the eight was the eight bill was is the the beast with 8 billion feet or what was his term like the mass of humanity he had this term where he's like like Tom Wo..."

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43:01 - 48:49
5:48 duration1533 words

Hollywood’s Fever Breaks & Comedy Returns

"and then if you if you talk to people in Hollywood basically what they'll tell you is by by the way independent of people's politics what the sort of I would say short people in Hollywood generally al..."

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48:49 - 52:26
3:36 duration919 words

AI in Filmmaking & the Future of Creativity

"other big topic in Hollywood is AI. Um, and yeah, so that's the, you know, that's the 800 lb thing. And, you know, and and you know, to their credit, they're, you know, say they're highly aware of it...."

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52:26 - 56:26
4:00 duration996 words

Naked Gun Revival and the Return of Humor

"thought Naked Naked Gun I thought was actually a little bit of a minor miracle. Um, so, uh, for a couple a couple reasons. So, one is look, it's it's it's a sequel to movies from like 40 years ago. Um..."

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56:26 - 58:17
1:50 duration474 words

Fantastic Four and Pro-Family Cinema

"you'll be astonished. >> It's incredible. >> Come out. >> What's that? >> Did it come out? >> It came out this summer. It came out this summer. It came out this summer. And Marvel, just for context, i..."

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58:17 - 1:03:54
5:37 duration1415 words

Could Atlas Shrugged Be Made Today?

">> You know, it's funny. Yeah, it's funny. It's so funny. Especially Atlas like Alice Rugr has become Al is Alice Shrug, you know, people who don't know, it's the sort of famous ran novel. It's kind o..."

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1:03:54 - 1:07:57
4:03 duration1028 words

South Park, AI & a New Era of Film Creation

">> Yeah. So South Park actually let's close closing this but just briefly on South Park. South Park was very much like what you're seeing with AI film making right now but in 199 19 1993 so I remember..."

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1:07:57 - 1:08:08
0:10 duration36 words

Closing Thoughts

">> On on that note, we got to let you go. Um, but this has been a fantastic episode of modering the situation. Thanks so much for coming on, Mark. >> All right. Fantastic. Situation monitored."