"we're entering this exponential trajectory and our Antiquated Minds cannot possibly keep up unless we change the stories change the programming and change the hardware introducing elements into comple..."

"thanks Jim appreciate you having me and you nailed it like that's it change the stories change the world well you had me at that line alone I think you and I are really simpatico on a ton of stuff and..."

"three things the first being to very simply and clearly make people aware a lot of the stuff that operates behind the scenes that most never even realizes going on the second to take a really cold har..."

"incredibly aligned uh in in our beliefs that this is really not optional this is required and I love the vehicle that you use the Watcher and as you were talking about how it just hit you I thought of..."

"great and you actually create a guide a user's guide for what we need to do so I want to jump right into that but I first want to ask about the Watcher I want you to explain to our audience the concep..."

"Watcher and a number of other similar folks they go around the universe looking for intelligent life and observing they just they want to see what's going on they want to see their stories they want t..."

"perfectly so yeah that's why I ask right because you know Joe Norman who's a complexity scientist argues that introducing elements into complex systems is a tricky bit of business and he Advocates tha..."

"bigger and faster and so I think it might be nice sometimes if we could slow things down I mean the pain comes in large part from the speed but I just I don't think that's realistic yeah and you make ..."

" because if we went back to just even 500 years ago and we were able to isolate the most intelligent human on the planet or a group if you want to make it a bigger thing the top decile of the smartest..."

"important the whole idea of in-group versus out group what Stokes that how can we ameliorate that situation status games I had will store on infinite loops and like he's what a wonderful guy brilliant..."

"for survival it's also one of those things where there's just there's too much information in order for one creature to carry it on absorb it all pass it all on like you can't do it one to one you nee..."

"and needs to survive and again you know we mentioned like the Antiquated wiring like this is wiring that's been in place for 50 000 plus years at least probably far longer and hasn't really changed in..."

"we have a tremendous number of stories flying around books movies music media social media there's tons of stories competing stories conflicting stories of all types and there's a sequence of things t..."

"I agree and I think that I have always equated the negative story tsunami with it's also happens to be appealing to that Jed McKinnon base emotion of fear fear of the new especially novel fears novel ..."

"Ventures right we had a competition for infinite loops and to write optimistic stories about the future and uh I love it yeah and I found this guy tinkered thinking and he's amazing right and like I w..."

"to actually pull it off but I see tons of these outliers these Heretics out there poking at the edges figuring things out creating new technology pushing things forward and still dragging people kicki..."

"dystopian sci-fi I love it I love it and I hate it because what was the Ezra Klein article that just came out it was like I forget the title I just shared it earlier today too something along the line..."

"it seems the default is that right I'm the same as you I love science fiction right and I've read a ton of it I have done a bunch of Science Fiction treatments for example when I was reading your stuf..."

"just earth right and so the human goes and looks at some others and it's like it's so many versions of that world because people have been going around and changing it and changing it and like they're..."

"patterns and that's why it's hard to make it stick I think and somehow we are going to have to get beyond that I think there are ways and again like Star Trek I think Star Trek did an enormous amount ..."

"that end you know that's one of the mandates of Ocean's Adventures right we won't look at anything that is not a what we perceive as a positive sum win-win game we don't care how great it is I did a s..."

"you know selfishly it's the best return for me and my grandchildren and they're great my great grandchildren and why doesn't want that to happen so and like at the end of the book as part of the seque..."

"the world will be a better place I and I love that idea because I hate the nags and the scolds and you have to do this for the planet or you have to do this for whatever and you know you man I mean I ..."

"incentives are one of my absolute most favorite topics I think I first started really honing in on them when I heard about the Cobra effect the story of the Indian government wanted to get rid of a pr..."

"this is exactly the type of story that the wealthy and powerful and influential if we could get them to read and understand and commit to making this a thing so many other people would fall in line ju..."

"problem and that you know that brings us to kind of like people like well you know you're a wild-eyed Optimist and you know there are going to be problems of course there are going to be problems that..."

"some time to not ourselves over until we get there yeah I agree and you know the whole goal which brings me to one of my favorite topics which is how do we break the Shannon limit I could fill a libra..."

"water there but you still run to get a drink yes I think part of it is that a lot of those things are set to run automatically in environments of scarcity and so this couples back to the whole progres..."

"position to act on knowledge so which is why assignment we need to do both we need to equip people with the knowledge so that they can see what's running but then also help them to get to a place wher..."

"like what we see today right we have people thinking that they should be able to regulate artificial intelligence it would have zero understanding of artificial intelligence and a bunch of other thing..."

"systems where people were also randomly selected I like this and I thought about this exact sort of thing I I think I'd do a twist so the idea of instead of people who run for positions of power I do ..."

"gonna go one way and another go the other way if you put them in a room right and you tell them you gotta come up with a law you're going to probably get the through conflict you're probably going to ..."

"know congruity game even if you're a psychopath you want to appear at least congruent in what you're advocating and but that goes back too right so if you know if you Advocate it and won like there sh..."

"and so we need to break down that incentive stack and I think AI would be amazing to help clean up and re-codify that into a smaller set yeah masculine laws you are clearly reading my mind because one..."

"drip out some of this slowly I would probably run it in parallel tracks though I'd have my public track in my private track because I think there's a lot of things that we need to go faster on even if..."

"great idea it's such a it's such a complex balance I'll think about it though do because I'm fascinated by it and I'm I'm certainly want everybody's input because like I'm not gonna be able to pick it..."

"here's Jim facial recognition it is programmed to only kill John and it so no collateral damage no missiles killing children and like that's really bad and super easy and terrifying because facial rec..."

"dystopian sci-fi programming speaking I think it's infinitesimal but I think the upsides are enormous and most of them are mundane I mean especially right now like AI is really cool and we've made a l..."

"in the past who are really smart people by the way I they're not dumb and like they just get caught in this infinite Loop of fear that you know Alan Watts had a great line which is worry is an endless..."

"know it starts also with like what's happening in that education right that's another one of my things right I don't know if people my age are salvageable right some are but some are but like I'm 62 I..."

"understands it unlocks I'm not afraid of math I thought I was but the AI has given me the path that I can understand math I can understand physics Etc yeah so it I mean we've built like the current ed..."

"one then start playing the other exactly and so it you know uh I could see somebody editing this and making me or you sound like Firebrand Communists man like we've got to stop optimizing for you know..."

"so that that's why we had all of these blow-ups you know of Keynesian econometric models we've got it figured out well we've got it you know it's the great joke about economists and the punch line is ..."

"tiniest percentage like tapering away in their garages completely oblivious you know focused on their own passion not trying to go out and model like who knows or rural Africa they'd never have access..."

"your suggested Solutions I think a lot of them are great and let's share them with our listeners and viewers yep so I talked about a couple of them a little bit earlier but I'll run through them in or..."

"entire new cognitive space and infinite opportunities but I think that both terrifies and excites a lot of people there's so much baggage psychological and biological associated with death I think tha..."

"yeah which is cool but I immediately flash on a series that it was a guilty pleasure of mine called altered carbons and it it envisioned such a thing it envisioned that we our single body didn't live ..."

"doesn't make a difference exactly and it reminds me of the thought experiment that I read about in Darren Brown's book happy more or less I think is the title happiness is the subject and he refers to..."

"started our conversation with you the implications of digital replication are profound and they affect everything right and so like you I can I'm gonna do a book right and I have a guy who's gonna be ..."

"exactly exactly well man I could talk to you about this endlessly I'm now nearing my end my nanny is she's gonna ultimately put a shock system in my chair that we're remotely shocked me to stop me but..."

"it and just start thinking about like what if what if we did this you know I'm sure that there are problems right that we haven't uncovered the more that's why I'm such a believer in open source it's ..."