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If you enjoy hearing about how to master the world of finance, I recommend you check out my conversation with Ramit Sethi, which you can find here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORqd9QAC8OY 00:00 Intro 02:23 Why Do You Write Books About Money? 04:14 The Psychology of Money & What Wealth Really Means 10:53 Why Not Having Control in Your Life Is Making You Unhealthy and Unhappy 14:05 Why You Need to Learn to Stop Pushing Your Financial Goals 18:20 The First and Most Important Rule of Happiness 22:16 The Most Valuable Financial Skill Anyone Can Have 25:35 The Most Important Saying for a Relationship or Career 27:48 Why Low Income People Are More Reckless With Money 32:17 How to Learn to Finally Save Your Money 35:55 A Tragic Incident That Taught Me My Most Valuable Lesson About Money 41:33 Investing and the Biggest Mistake Most People Make 45:55 The Best Advice on How to Invest Your Money 51:58 The Janitor That Became a Multimillionaire 54:41 Pensions 56:28 How Do We Know When Enough Is Enough? 59:34 Should We Save Our Money for Our Children? 01:03:19 Why You Should Never Check Up on Your Investments 01:07:34 The Benefits of Not Working for Big Companies 01:08:58 Why Everyone Is Bullshitting Their Way Through Investing 01:11:27 Why You Should Take That Risk 01:17:32 The Best Bit of Advice I Ever Received 01:26:15 The Biggest Factor That Will Ensure You Lose Your Money 01:31:48 The Confidence Rule Around Your Finances You Need to Know 01:41:55 The Power of a Great Story 01:44:42 The Power of Compounding Interest 01:50:15 Bad Times Often Change Us for Good 01:53:03 Wealth Creation Conclusion 01:53:57 The Last Guest’s Question You can purchase Morgan’s most recent book, ‘Same as Ever: Timeless Lessons on Risk, Opportunity and Living a Good Life’, here: https://amzn.to/467d77x Follow Morgan: Instagram: https://bit.ly/3spU4HK Twitter: https://bit.ly/40mE6uF Flightfund: https://flightfund.com/ My new book! 'The 33 Laws Of Business & Life' is out now: https://smarturl.it/DOACbook Listen on: Apple podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-diary-of-a-ceo-by-steven-bartlett/id1291423644 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/7iQXmUT7XGuZSzAMjoNWlX Join this channel to get access to perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGq-a57w-aPwyi3pW7XLiHw/join FOLLOW ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/steven/ Twitter: https://x.com/StevenBartlett?s=20 Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/steven-bartlett-56986834/ Sponsors: British Airways: https://www.britishairways.com/en-gb/offers/sale Huel: https://g2ul0.app.link/G4RjcdKNKsb Eightsleep: https://www.eightsleep.com/uk/steven/ CODE: STEVEN (save $150 on the Pod Cover)
Morgan Housel warns against the pitfalls of buying a house out of necessity rather than choice. He emphasizes that many people feel trapped in low-income jobs, but wealth-building opportunities are available to everyone. Housel shares inspiring examples, like Ronald Reed, a janitor who amassed an $8 million fortune, highlighting that financial success is not limited to those with traditional skills.
"if you're buying a house because you don't do it run for your life Mr Morgan H he's the author of the psychology of money one of the bestselling business books of this decade he can help anyone build ..."
In this segment, Morgan Housel discusses the transformative impact of his book, 'The Psychology of Money.' He reflects on how it changed his perspective on wealth and investing, encouraging readers to introspectively examine their relationship with money rather than just focusing on financial tactics. Housel believes that true learning begins after finishing the book, prompting deeper self-reflection.
"I remember when I came into money when I was 25 20 no 27 27 28 years old and my brother turned to me and said there's one thing I ask of you he said you have to read this book called the psychology of..."
Morgan Housel distinguishes between being rich and being wealthy. He defines richness as having enough money to meet daily expenses, while wealth is the unspent money that provides independence and autonomy. Housel emphasizes that true wealth allows individuals to live life on their own terms, contrasting the common desire to spend money with the importance of saving for future freedom.
"it let's start with the psychology of money what is the benefit to my life if I understand the things that are written in the psychology of money well let me start with I think most Finance books will..."
Housel shares a personal story about his father's frugality and how it led to financial independence. He explains that his father's ability to retire comfortably after years of hard work was due to living below his means. This independence, Housel argues, is a key component of happiness, allowing individuals to make choices about their lives without financial constraints.
"what they actually mean is I want to spend a million dollars that's what they mean and when I think about being a millionaire I think it's you have a million dollars that you're not going to spend and..."
In this segment, Morgan Housel discusses the correlation between financial control and personal happiness. He cites studies showing that a lack of control over one's life can lead to stress and health issues. Housel reflects on how his father's financial discipline allowed him to retire on his own terms, contrasting this with others who remain trapped by their financial choices.
"stuck with them even after they started making a little bit of money they didn't buy a Lamborghini no no we grew up in a very like modest house it was a nice house and we took some like decent family ..."
Morgan Housel highlights the physiological effects of stress caused by a lack of control over one's life. He discusses how financial independence can alleviate stress and improve overall health. Housel shares insights from John D. Rockefeller's life, emphasizing that maintaining a calm demeanor and not letting external pressures dictate one's life is crucial for longevity and well-being.
"made them happier than any big house would have done so it's like I think that is one of the keys to happiness happiness is like the most complicated topic you can imagine but one of the big puzzle pi..."
Housel explores the concept of autonomy in the workplace and its impact on happiness. He contrasts the lives of high-earning CEOs who lack control over their schedules with individuals who have the freedom to choose their daily activities. Housel uses Warren Buffett as an example of someone who has structured his life to maintain total control, contributing to his success and longevity.
"physical health is lowering that amount of stress and there are not many other things in life that are going to increase the stress that you have have than not having control over what you're doing in..."
In this closing segment, Housel reflects on the challenges of maintaining control in a busy professional life. He shares his personal experiences of feeling overwhelmed by a packed schedule and the importance of carving out time for self-care. Housel emphasizes that true wealth is not just about financial success but also about having the freedom to make choices that enhance one's quality of life.
"actually have and you know what I do sometimes I think I've noticed about myself I think sometimes I councel things just to prove to myself that I still have control that's great see that's a good thi..."
Housel presents a compelling argument about the relationship between income and happiness, revealing that despite increased earnings over decades, overall happiness has declined. He emphasizes the importance of managing expectations and understanding that wealth does not guarantee happiness.
"forever have they done studies to test that in terms of analyzing whether people's goal posts move off into the future even when they're like billionaires and whatever I mean here's here's the broades..."
This segment delves into how societal comparisons affect individual happiness. Housel uses historical context to illustrate that even with greater wealth and technology, people often feel less satisfied due to rising expectations, urging listeners to appreciate their current circumstances.
"comparing yourself to other people and maybe the average American's income doubled but so did their neighbors so did their co-workers so did their siblings so you just automatically adjust to that I t..."
Housel shares insights from his book about the first rule of happiness: maintaining low expectations. He discusses how managing expectations can lead to greater satisfaction and happiness, countering the common belief that ambition alone leads to fulfillment.
"if there was if Thomas Jefferson or somebody came to the year 2023 he would faint at the new technologies and the medical discoveries that we have and these are technologies that you and I don't spend..."
In a poignant reflection, Housel recounts Stephen Hawking's perspective on happiness despite severe limitations. Hawking's ability to find joy in life despite his challenges serves as a powerful reminder of the impact of expectations on our overall happiness.
"you need to be ambitious you need more you need to make more money work harder have a more successful startup whatever it would be and there's that's true but that's half the equation the other half t..."
Housel emphasizes the value of low expectations in enhancing daily experiences. He illustrates how appreciating simple joys can lead to a more fulfilling life, contrasting the experiences of those with high expectations who often find themselves dissatisfied.
"expectations were so low that just waking up in the morning and seeing the sunrise and getting to go to work and talk to people was this magical gift I mean you can imagine not to get too morbid about..."
This segment focuses on the importance of managing expectations in financial matters. Housel argues that controlling one's desires and expectations can lead to greater financial satisfaction, highlighting the psychological aspects of wealth and happiness.
"but if you needed and wanted 1.1 billion you're broke you feel broke and the reverse of that is true too there are people who make $50,000 a year but if they only need 40 to be happy they're sto they ..."
Housel shares a personal story from his time as a valet, illustrating how societal perceptions of wealth often lead to a disconnect between self-worth and material possessions. He argues that true respect and admiration come from personal qualities rather than material wealth.
"control over doing it so how in a practical sense can one go about keeping their expectations below their circumstances I guess here's here's one that really made an impact on me and it's great that w..."
In this segment, Housel discusses the societal pressure to impress others and how it can lead to financial strain. He emphasizes that the most valuable financial skill is not needing to impress others, which can significantly enhance one's quality of life.
"that was being played in society once you once you recognize that's the game your willingness your desire to show off plunges and of course I I like nice stuff I like nice cars I want some nice clothe..."
Housel explores the dynamics of expectations in relationships, particularly in marriage. He shares insights from a friend about how serving each other without expecting anything in return can lead to a healthier and more fulfilling partnership.
"loss in your life because you're trying to show off to for people who you don't even need or want to love you there's a great quote from Warren Buffett where he says the definition of success is when ..."
This segment addresses the human desire for validation and how it can lead to unhealthy financial behaviors. Housel discusses the importance of recognizing this need and focusing on genuine relationships rather than superficial validation.
"whatever it would be is when you become needy like nothing breaks love more than being needy and really what needy is is just your expectations are so high that you wake up and you say I expect to do ..."
Housel examines the correlation between low-income areas and reckless financial behaviors, such as gambling. He shares a personal anecdote about his own past decisions, highlighting how desperation can lead to poor financial choices.
"the first chapter in your book where you talk about the stories of money that we have and where they've come from and something that's always baffled me is when you go into low-income areas there's mo..."
In this closing segment, Housel discusses the psychological factors that influence financial decisions, particularly in low-income situations. He emphasizes the importance of understanding these behaviors to foster better financial habits and decision-making.
"desires are for sure for sure when I say that out loud I'm like oh absolutely why is that that when we have less we are Reckless with our money well I think there's two sides to this one of my theorie..."
In this segment, Housel reflects on the role of hope in the lives of those in low-income situations. He explains how buying a lottery ticket can represent a fleeting chance at a better life, serving as a source of joy in an otherwise bleak existence. Housel emphasizes the importance of understanding the motivations behind seemingly irrational financial behaviors, shedding light on the human need for hope and pleasure amidst hardship.
"important is that you know I saw this statistic years ago that the poorest 10% of Americans buy like 80% of the lottery tickets in America and these are people who can like barely feed themselves lowe..."
Morgan Housel explores the relationship between pleasure-seeking behaviors and poverty. He discusses how individuals in low-income jobs may turn to small indulgences, like cigarettes or alcohol, as a means of coping with their challenging circumstances. This segment highlights the complexities of financial decision-making and the often-overlooked emotional needs that drive spending habits among those facing economic struggles.
"to think I might as well cheat too if the world's unfair why not might as well cheat and I think that at least at some level has some explanation for the relationship between poverty and crime that wo..."
Housel discusses how a lack of control over one's financial situation can lead to stress and poor decision-making. He emphasizes that viewing savings as a means of gaining independence can shift one's mindset towards financial stability. This segment underscores the importance of financial literacy and the psychological benefits of saving money, framing it as a pathway to greater control and happiness in life.
"for at least part of it quick one this is really really fascinating to me on the back end of our YouTube channel it says that 69.9% of you that watch this channel frequently over the lifetime of this ..."
In this insightful segment, Housel categorizes people into three groups based on their attitudes towards saving: those who save, those who don't think they can save, and those who don't believe they need to save. He reflects on his own journey through these categories, emphasizing the importance of understanding one's mindset about money and the potential for change. This discussion serves as a foundation for better financial habits and attitudes.
"let's speak then to 18-year-old Steve that was in that little room with the stack of these what they call County Court judgments and bays and stuff stack of letters on his desk what advice based on al..."
Morgan Housel shares a personal story about the tragic loss of two friends in a skiing accident, illustrating how unexpected events can profoundly impact one's perspective on life and risk. He reflects on the importance of seemingly small decisions and how they can alter the course of one's life. This segment emphasizes the fragility of life and the need for humility in making future predictions, particularly in financial contexts.
"actually very rare that you change who you are really on the nature nurture Spectrum I actually think and this is kind of disappointing to talk about it's not fun to talk about but on the nature of nu..."
In this poignant segment, Housel discusses the weight of decisions and their unforeseen consequences. He recounts how a seemingly trivial choice saved his life during a skiing trip, highlighting the unpredictability of life. This reflection serves as a reminder of the importance of being mindful in decision-making, especially regarding financial choices and investments.
"definitely talk about I have also been the person that saves and I've also been the person who thought they didn't need to save I've been all three my Counterpoint to this goes back to a story that I ..."
Housel emphasizes the unpredictability of life and the limitations of our ability to forecast future events. He discusses how significant risks often arise from unforeseen circumstances, urging listeners to embrace uncertainty in their financial planning. This segment encourages a mindset shift towards accepting the chaos of life and the importance of adaptability in financial strategies.
"our entire lives together and when I was 17 this is in 2001 I was skiing with my two two of my best friends brenon Allen and and and Brian Richmond and we would ski out of bounds which is illegal you'..."
In this segment, Housel discusses the fragility of predictions in finance and life. He reflects on historical events that caught people off guard, emphasizing that the most significant risks are often unforeseen. This discussion serves as a cautionary tale for investors, highlighting the importance of humility and preparedness in the face of uncertainty.
"the ground during an earthquake like the ground's pushing you but it was a pretty small Avalanche maybe came up to our knees ended pretty quickly and we kind of like literally high-fived about it at t..."
Morgan Housel discusses the inherent unpredictability of life events and their impact on our financial decisions. He emphasizes that significant risks, such as economic downturns or personal crises, often arise unexpectedly and cannot be forecasted. This segment highlights the importance of acknowledging the fragility of our plans and the limitations of our ability to predict the future.
"wrong person or I met the right person or you know I I decided not to take a second run we cannot forecast the impact of those things and so that had a big impact on me too of just who are we to fool ..."
In this segment, Housel shares insights on how to prepare for unforeseen risks in investing and life. He quotes financial advisor Carl Richards, stating that true risk is what remains after considering all known factors. Housel encourages viewers to invest in preparedness rather than prediction, advocating for a financial buffer to withstand unexpected events.
"that nobody's talking about today that you and I have can't even fathom because it's always been like that there's never been a time when the biggest news story was foreseeable and it's all and it'll ..."
Morgan Housel explains the necessity of maintaining a substantial cash reserve in your investment portfolio. He argues that having what feels like 'too much cash' can provide a safety net against unforeseen financial crises. This segment underscores the value of liquidity and the ability to endure market volatility.
"saw that thing coming but the specifics of when it's going to happen how bad it's going to be is it just going to shut down the economy for a week or two years that is completely impossible but there'..."
Housel shares his straightforward investment strategy, which consists of cash, a house, and index funds. He emphasizes the benefits of simplicity in managing finances and the importance of endurance in investing. This segment highlights how a simple approach can lead to long-term financial success.
"people look at my asset allocation my investments a lot of people look at it and say you seem really conservative why do you have this much cash what are you saving for and my answer is always I don't..."
In this segment, Housel discusses the significance of endurance in investing compared to trying to time the market. He illustrates how consistent, long-term investment strategies can yield better results than short-term speculation. Housel uses the example of Warren Buffett to demonstrate how patience and time can lead to substantial wealth accumulation.
"like six years or something which has done me very well yeah that is it and the ethereum investment is also based on the fact that I run a software business that is in blockchain and I could see that ..."
Morgan Housel explains the concept of dollar cost averaging, where investors consistently invest a fixed amount regardless of market conditions. He contrasts this method with reactive investing based on market emotions. This segment provides clarity on how dollar cost averaging can lead to successful long-term investment outcomes.
"of this my parents are smart people but they really they have no Financial background and they like minimal financial interest I would say and but they have dollar cost average into index funds for go..."
Housel emphasizes that long-term investing is more about endurance than short-term gains. He shares the story of Ronald Reed, a janitor who amassed significant wealth through consistent investing over decades. This segment illustrates how patience and a long-term perspective can lead to financial success.
"that's a better long-term wealth creation strategy than buying crypto or buying companies that I use or like how would you explain that to your to your kid your ability to do well over the next one ye..."
In this segment, Housel discusses Warren Buffett's investment journey, highlighting that most of his wealth was accumulated after age 60. He explains that the key to Buffett's success lies in his long-term commitment to investing rather than just his stock-picking skills. This segment reinforces the idea that longevity in investing is crucial for wealth creation.
"billion away to charity so if he didn't do that he'd be worth he'd go from three billion to 200 billion since he's been 60 because the numbers just get crazier at that point he's worth a hundred billi..."
Morgan Housel shares the inspiring story of Ronald Reed, a janitor who built an $8 million net worth through disciplined investing. Housel reflects on the lessons learned from Reed's life, emphasizing that anyone can achieve financial success with patience and a long-term strategy. This segment challenges societal norms about wealth and success.
"you have endurance you're going to beat literally 97 or 99% of the genius stock Pickers and what's so interesting about it is like picking the right stocks is hard it's supposed to be hard like there'..."
Housel discusses the concept of a 'rich life' and how it varies for each individual. He contrasts societal expectations of wealth with personal definitions of happiness and fulfillment. This segment encourages viewers to reflect on what truly makes them happy and to prioritize their own values over societal pressures.
"it up see this is one I I do kind of regret that in the book that I'm I kind of I didn't say it explicitly but I kind of make him out to be a role model and I don't think that's the case he he's not m..."
Morgan Housel discusses the challenge many financial advisers face in getting clients to spend money after years of saving. He emphasizes the importance of defining a 'rich life' based on personal happiness rather than societal expectations. Housel shares his own simple pleasures and contrasts them with the extravagant lifestyles often portrayed in society, urging listeners to discover what truly brings them joy.
"I'm 25 yeah and I can go to Vegas and you know ball out and buy nice things and have great experiences not when I'm 65 yeah no I think that's true I think there are a lot of people a lot of financial ..."
In this segment, Housel reflects on the concept of 'enough' in life and finances. He shares a personal story about his father realizing when he had enough, and discusses the common struggle of feeling pressured by societal norms. Housel highlights the importance of finding personal fulfillment and warns against the regrets of not living authentically, especially as one approaches the end of life.
"into what they want you to do knowing when enough is enough this was one of the most interesting things that I think really rang true to me was how do I know in my life when enough is enough I've defi..."
Morgan Housel introduces the idea of giving financial support to loved ones while still alive, rather than waiting until death. He critiques the traditional approach of inheritance and emphasizes the importance of providing help when it is most needed. Housel discusses the balance between giving and teaching financial responsibility to children, sharing insights on how to navigate this delicate issue.
"this is pretty morbid to think about but I think about if I were on my deathbed tomorrow would I regret working hard and saving a lot of money and my answer is absolutely not it would give me so much ..."
In this thought-provoking segment, Housel shares his perspective on raising children with a sense of financial independence. He discusses the importance of teaching kids the value of money and experiences, contrasting his approach with traditional views. Housel reflects on a personal experience of flying first class with his son and the implications it had on his child's expectations, emphasizing the need for balance in financial upbringing.
"when they need your money I I I really like that concept I think about that with my own kids the counter point to that is though if I just give my kids money then like the chth quote they might lose i..."
Morgan Housel advises young adults to embrace risk in their careers rather than opting for safe, stable jobs. He argues that taking unconventional paths can lead to greater learning and growth. Housel explains how starting in a safe company can lead to complacency, while pursuing unique opportunities can foster resilience and adaptability, ultimately preparing individuals for future challenges.
"he did it at 7 and so that my when I first did it at 35 I remember feeling a I earned this I worked for this and Al felt so special to me because I'd flown coach 9,000 times before that so it felt ama..."
In this segment, Housel discusses the critical skills of endurance and patience in investing. He highlights how successful investors often wait for the right opportunities and emphasizes the rarity of good investment chances. Housel shares insights on the mindset required to navigate market volatility and the importance of maintaining a long-term perspective in financial decision-making.
"easy life they will take it and embrace it with both hands making money and keeping money require two different skills you you've spoken about a few of the skills that are required for making money th..."
Morgan Housel elaborates on the difference between making money and keeping it, emphasizing the need for financial survival skills. He discusses the unpredictable nature of life and how enduring challenges is crucial for long-term financial success. Housel stresses that while gaining wealth requires optimism and risk-taking, maintaining it demands a conservative approach and awareness of potential risks.
"available for everybody and you can do that from your phone like you do it from your phone open up a Robinhood account buy some index funds anybody can do that and so that and but that was not always ..."
Housel shares advice for young individuals starting their careers, suggesting they should seek out unconventional opportunities rather than settling for traditional roles. He explains how early career choices can shape future paths and encourages embracing experiences that foster growth and learning. Housel highlights the importance of being open to failure as a valuable learning experience.
"you need both of those skills at the same time so well your kid is 20 years old he's broke do you tell him to go and take huge outsized risks he's not got a family he's not got a mortgage he's not got..."
In this insightful segment, Housel discusses the concept of 'tails' in investing, where a small number of events can have a significant impact on overall success. He draws parallels between investing and life, emphasizing that a few key moments can define outcomes. Housel encourages listeners to recognize the importance of these pivotal experiences and how they shape both financial and personal journeys.
"stable and linear and that's the like it's you're capping all of your upside where if you go for the weird company you're either going to do one of two things it's either going to fail and you're goin..."
In this segment, Housel reflects on the false sense of certainty that many investors seek. He compares investment forecasts to horoscopes, suggesting that people often look for comfort in predictions despite the inherent uncertainty of the future. This discussion underscores the need for humility in investing and the recognition that no one truly knows what will happen next.
"you're expecting to walk away with tips all these tips these tricks these special ways to make more money than everybody what I came away with is this one important lesson that I've never been able to..."
Housel discusses the importance of embracing failure as a part of the innovation process, citing Jeff Bezos' philosophy on risk-taking at Amazon. He explains that successful companies often have a high failure rate, and that taking risks is essential for growth. This segment encourages viewers to adopt a mindset that values experimentation and learning from failures.
"think what's closest to investing is something like the horoscope or even if you know it's [ __ ] you want to read it why because it's comforting what a lot of people want out of their investing forec..."
Morgan Housel draws parallels between winning the lottery and achieving success in business. He emphasizes that taking numerous small risks increases the likelihood of hitting a big success. This segment highlights the importance of persistence and the willingness to take multiple swings at opportunities to achieve significant outcomes.
"like make sure your bets are not that big and you can just keep taking little risks all the time the optionality that you get from that like the odds that one or two of those are going to explode are ..."
In this segment, Housel warns against complacency that often follows success. He shares personal insights about how success can lead to a defensive mindset, which can hinder growth and innovation. This discussion serves as a reminder that maintaining a proactive approach is crucial to sustaining success over time.
"don't want every room to be sold out because that means you're not pricing high enough you know you're doing a good job when you have 10 empty rooms that's when you know you're pricing the other rooms..."
Housel reflects on the personal sacrifices that often accompany high levels of success, sharing anecdotes about billionaires who are deeply unhappy despite their wealth. He contrasts the lives of successful individuals with those who find happiness in simpler pursuits, emphasizing that financial success does not guarantee personal fulfillment.
"risk appetite will take their cheese right and your chapter on keep running there's two quotes that I really pulled out chapter is called keep running and the quot two quotes that I pulled out were co..."
Morgan Housel discusses the evolving motivations of successful individuals, highlighting the importance of maintaining a sense of hunger and ambition. He shares advice from a mentor about the need to find new, challenging goals after achieving financial success. This segment encourages viewers to recognize that their motivations may change over time and to seek new challenges.
"the plug before it gets really bad here so that's like a very specific example but what he realized that what made him successful was gone and a lot of a lot of CEOs will will have this problem too wh..."
In this segment, Housel examines the relentless drive of highly successful individuals, using examples of billionaires who continue to push boundaries despite their wealth. He discusses the psychological toll of competition and the pressure that comes with high expectations. This discussion highlights the complex relationship between success, happiness, and the pursuit of new challenges.
"life he said to me Stephen the reason you were successful was because you were hungry you need to realize that you're no longer hungry for the same reasons and what he told me to do was the hardest [ ..."
Housel contrasts the lives of successful tech entrepreneurs with those who find joy in simpler lifestyles. He shares a story about Tom from Myspace, who enjoys a fulfilling life despite not being a billionaire, compared to Mark Zuckerberg, who faces immense pressure. This segment emphasizes the idea that happiness can often be found outside of financial success.
"million and so for someone to have a net worth of 10 billion and to wake up and say I'm going to keep going as hard as I possibly can that's why they have that level of success it's complete insatiabl..."
Housel discusses the psychological need for challenge among successful individuals, likening it to a drug. He explains how high achievers, like Bill Gates, often seek out new challenges after achieving success, indicating that their engagement with life is tied to the complexity of problems they tackle. This segment delves into the motivations behind the relentless pursuit of success and the inherent need for stress and challenge.
"and you can see his life on Instagram it's not exaggeration he's like travels around the world with his girlfriend hiking in Bali it looks like at least from Instagram he lives this amazing life and t..."
In this segment, Housel warns about the pitfalls of overconfidence that can arise from success. He illustrates how successful individuals may mistakenly believe their skills translate across different domains, leading to poor decisions. The discussion highlights the importance of humility and awareness of one's limitations, emphasizing that success can blind individuals to their vulnerabilities.
"need to get harder and harder for you to be engaged that's why every game we play it's not on level one over and over and over again we need it to go to level two crosswords get more difficult we stay..."
Housel recounts the story of Jesse Livermore, a legendary investor who repeatedly achieved great wealth only to lose it all due to his inability to recognize when to stop. This cautionary tale serves as a reminder of the risks associated with unchecked ambition and the importance of understanding one's financial limits. The segment underscores the relationship between confidence, risk-taking, and eventual downfall.
"can't everyone needs to have some sort of conflict Strife challenge stress in their life and for I think for a lot of people if they don't get it from real places they just make up fake problems in th..."
Morgan Housel discusses the inherent costs associated with achieving wealth, including the volatility and stress that accompany financial success. He emphasizes that nothing in life is free and that understanding the sacrifices required for success is crucial. This segment encourages viewers to recognize the trade-offs involved in pursuing wealth and the importance of being prepared for the challenges that come with it.
"can success I think your book the one of the key things that stayed with me and I didn't need to recap myself on was the stories you told about people that accurately predicted what was going to happe..."
In this segment, Housel highlights the significance of humility in maintaining sustainable success. He shares a powerful quote from Denzel Washington about the dangers of pride at the peak of one's career. The discussion revolves around the need for self-awareness and the ability to recognize one's fallibility, which is essential for long-term success and personal growth.
"fail and I think there's some version of that for a lot of people because it because their success increases their confidence more than their ability and they don't even know that that's a problem tha..."
Housel concludes by discussing how to identify the costs associated with various aspects of life, including investing, career, and relationships. He emphasizes that understanding these costs is vital for making informed decisions and achieving lasting success. This segment encourages viewers to reflect on their own goals and the sacrifices they are willing to make to achieve them.
"fallible like make the like tame it down they would actually hire people to do that for them and I think if you look at a lot of like the great entrepreneurs a lot of the great investors they will hav..."
Morgan Housel discusses the different time horizons in life and how they influence financial decisions. He emphasizes the need to consider personal circumstances, such as family and career, when making choices about home ownership versus renting. Housel reflects on his own experiences of living in various cities and how his priorities shifted after becoming a parent.
"want to retire early or whatever would be like everyone's going to have a slightly different time Horizon what's yours mine I mean I you would break it up into different chunks like I want to get to a..."
In this segment, Housel contrasts the benefits of renting versus buying a home, particularly when it comes to raising children. He shares his personal journey of valuing stability for his family over the flexibility of renting, highlighting how life changes can shift one's perspective on housing decisions.
"which was in my 20s and early 30s my wife and I lived in like seven different cities and there was nothing better for us some of those were just like let's try this new city for fun some of it was mov..."
Housel explains that buying a house should primarily be viewed as a lifestyle choice rather than a financial investment. He shares advice from his brother about focusing on personal needs and emotional stability rather than potential financial returns, emphasizing that many people make poor decisions by prioritizing investment over lifestyle.
"rent forever really and try and try different cities move all move all around what could be better than that but when you have kids what's more important to me is stability I want my kids to go to a s..."
Morgan Housel reflects on the emotional aspects of buying a home, discussing how it can be a good decision for family stability despite potentially being a poor financial investment. He draws parallels between home ownership and having children, stressing that these decisions should not be made purely for financial gain.
"up losing money on it I I I I don't think I'd care that that's not why I'm owning it I'm owning it just cuz I want the stability for my family I've just made an offer on my first ever house and I cuz ..."
In this segment, Housel addresses the misconception that buying a house is a guaranteed way to build wealth. He cites historical data showing that home prices often do not appreciate significantly over time, urging listeners to reconsider their motivations for purchasing property.
"millions of dollars into your kids and it's G it's like if if money is coming into the equation like stop right there this is it should not do it you're doing it for very different reasons this is not..."
Housel warns against the financial risks associated with buying a home as an investment. He encourages listeners to think critically about the implications of borrowing large sums of money for a historically poor investment, emphasizing the importance of understanding the true nature of home ownership.
"used to be that rentals were almost without exception shitty houses there were no good rentals a big change at least in America in the last 20 years is that most cities have tons and tons of luxury ap..."
Morgan Housel discusses the significance of storytelling in finance and investing. He highlights how compelling narratives can often overshadow facts and figures, influencing people's decisions and perceptions in powerful ways.
"about to borrow a shitload of money for an investment that historically has been a very bad investment like if you put it in those terms like what are we doing here man going to borrow hundreds of tho..."
In this segment, Housel contrasts the nature of good and bad news, explaining how good news tends to compound slowly while bad news can strike suddenly. He emphasizes the importance of recognizing this dynamic in understanding societal progress and personal health.
"understand the power of the best story wins because when you think about entrepreneurship or investing or pitching or sales what most people do is they lead out with facts stats and figures yeah and e..."
Housel elaborates on the compounding effects of both positive and negative choices in life. He uses examples from health and lifestyle to illustrate how small, seemingly insignificant decisions can lead to significant outcomes over time.
"the most rational idea just whoever tells a story that catches people's attention I think there are dangerous stories which is when people want to is when people tell you what you want to hear oh I go..."
Morgan Housel explains the concept of exponential growth and its implications for both investing and personal health. He shares a historical analogy involving rice on a chessboard to illustrate how quickly compounding can lead to massive outcomes, emphasizing the importance of understanding this principle.
"that you were told when you were two years old you remember it for the rest of your life so it's just a tool for getting people to remember how the world works and they be so persuasive and so good at..."
In this segment, Housel discusses the challenges of understanding compounding, particularly how it relates to financial decisions and health. He emphasizes that our intuition often fails us when it comes to exponential growth, leading to underestimations of both positive and negative impacts.
"charts we're like living in such a better world now than we were 70 years ago but in any given year you didn't even notice it you're never going to see a news headline like breaking news heart disease..."
Housel concludes by likening the understanding of compounding to a form of faith, suggesting that it requires a leap of belief to grasp its true power. He stresses the need for a mindset shift to appreciate how compounding affects our lives in both beneficial and detrimental ways.
"to people that compounding interest and compounding returns this very hard thing to think about is so important I imagine you have two what is your go-to way of explaining to like your eight-year-old ..."
In this segment, Housel connects the themes of discomfort and personal growth, referencing chapters from his book that highlight how stress and adversity can lead to significant breakthroughs. He draws parallels between personal experiences and historical events, illustrating how challenges often spur innovation and improvement, both individually and societally.
"can be over time two of the chapters in your book same is ever speak to the importance of discomfort one of the chapters is called when the magic happens and you say in that chapter stress pain discom..."
Morgan Housel shares poignant examples of how personal tragedies can lead to profound insights and connections with others. He reflects on the idea that difficult experiences, such as job losses or breakups, can ultimately result in positive changes in one's life. This segment encourages viewers to recognize the potential for growth that can arise from hardship.
"because there was this period where everyone in the world came together and they're like holy [ __ ] we got a big problem to figure out let's put our heads together and figure this out right now but t..."
Housel concludes the conversation by discussing the value of reflection on one's life experiences. He emphasizes that while he has faced mild depression and anxiety, he wishes he could reassure his younger self that everything would be okay. This segment highlights the importance of perspective in understanding past worries and the potential for happiness through acceptance.
"happened to their career a breakup might be the hardest thing you've ever been through and in hindsight it might be the best thing that's ever happened to you so I that's always like that's when the m..."
In this closing segment, Housel reflects on the nature of his books, emphasizing that they are designed to provoke thought rather than provide direct advice. He discusses the enduring principles of life and finance that he aims to convey through storytelling, highlighting the impact of narratives in shaping our understanding of wealth and personal growth.
"happen a tremendous amount and even if I recognize that today I know I'm going to worry about something tonight and tomorrow and next week about something I really shouldn't be worrying about I don't ..."