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DoorDash CEO: Customer Obsession, Surviving Startup Death & Creating A New Market

DoorDash CEO: Customer Obsession, Surviving Startup Death & Creating A New Market

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In this episode of How To Build The Future, Garry sits down with Tony Xu, Co-founder and CEO of DoorDash, to discuss their origin story, how the company survived several near death experiences, and what it takes to transform an entire industry. Apply for a YC Summer Fellows Grant: https://events.ycombinator.com/summer-fellows Apply to Y Combinator: https://ycombinator.com/apply Chapters (Powered by https://bit.ly/chapterme-yc) - 00:00 - Intro 02:45 - How they landed on the idea of DoorDash 05:16 - Doing things that don't scale 07:08 - Figuring out what matters in the early days 09:01 - Answering the biggest questions about demand 10:30 - Demographics of the Dashers 12:03 - DoorDash almost goes out of business (the first time) 14:00 - DoorDash almost dies a second time 16:00 - All you need is one investor to say yes 17:00 - Price war 21:34 - Scaling up 24:32 - The ups and downs of the COVID era 28:00 - Long-term vision 30:00 - Advice for founders today

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1
0:00 - 2:45
2:44 duration463 words

The Vision Behind DoorDash

Tony Xu shares the foundational vision of DoorDash, emphasizing the importance of building a company that empowers physical businesses and contributes to the GDP of cities. He discusses the clarity of purpose that drives decision-making, especially during crises like COVID-19, and sets the stage for the company's journey.

"There's no better way to be the expert than just to do the work. You might be surprised at how quickly you get to become the expert. We're here to build a company that will grow and empower every phys..."

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2:45 - 5:16
2:31 duration494 words

Finding the Right Idea

Tony Xu recounts how he and his co-founders arrived at the idea of DoorDash after exploring various projects. He highlights the importance of enjoying the work and the pivotal moment when they realized the potential in food delivery after observing a macaroon store's unfulfilled delivery orders.

"Sometimes it's very very hard for any customer to tell you exactly what is inside their brain when you ask them what problems they have. And so we wanted to feel and and and and maybe trying to figure..."

3
5:16 - 7:08
1:52 duration362 words

The Early Days of DoorDash

In this segment, Tony Xu reflects on the early days of DoorDash, including their initial project, Palo Alto Delivery. He describes how they operated as a small team, doing all deliveries themselves, and the challenges they faced in understanding consumer demand and restaurant needs.

"planning their exotic vacations to Europe or other um interesting areas for for the summer. And when they asked me what I would be doing, I said I'd be delivering hummus for my Honda. It was a very di..."

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7:08 - 9:01
1:53 duration356 words

Consumer Demand and Market Fit

Tony discusses the critical questions they faced regarding consumer demand for delivery services. He explains how they validated their idea by engaging directly with customers and understanding their preferences, which helped shape DoorDash's offerings.

"group that um wanted a structured place to find uh guidance on whether or not you know, we were on to something. Two things you had to figure out, supply and uh actually consumer demand. Yeah. So driv..."

5
9:01 - 10:30
1:29 duration260 words

Building the Driver Workforce

In this segment, Tony Xu elaborates on the challenges of building a driver workforce for DoorDash. He shares insights on recruiting drivers and testing their interest in the platform, highlighting the importance of understanding what motivates drivers beyond just pay.

"knowledgeably um uh about uh what it would be. So, we would just post ads on Craigslist, see who shows up, and then started filtering different segments of drivers. That was one where we weren't neces..."

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10:30 - 12:07
1:37 duration287 words

The Demo Day Dilemma

Xu recounts the challenges DoorDash faced during its demo day at Y Combinator, where despite having positive metrics, the company struggled to secure funding. He reflects on the critical questions they needed to answer about the viability of their business model and the market they aimed to create.

"tended to skew younger, we tended to skew more female. And so today Door Dash has over 7 million drivers in on the platform. Of these dashers, this the drivers on the platform almost 60% are women. To..."

7
12:07 - 13:44
1:37 duration303 words

The Stanford Football Incident

Tony Xu narrates a pivotal moment when DoorDash nearly failed after a Stanford football game due to overwhelming demand and insufficient delivery capacity. He describes the team's decision to refund customers and their commitment to customer satisfaction, which became a core value of the company.

"answer was yes. Demo day however was not successful. I don't know exactly where we stacked ranked that day, but we certainly weren't amongst the favorites. Um, and and it was really tough. I mean the ..."

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13:44 - 16:00
2:16 duration403 words

Navigating Financial Crisis

In this segment, Xu explains how DoorDash managed to survive a financial crisis despite high demand. He emphasizes the importance of securing just one investor's support, which ultimately led to their seed financing and allowed them to continue operations.

"US. Only 20,000 of them offer delivery. What would happen if you can enable the other 980,000 to do it? So, Door Dash actually almost died, I guess, after a Stanford football game in the fall of uh 20..."

9
16:00 - 17:10
1:10 duration230 words

Contrarian Strategy in a Price War

Xu discusses DoorDash's strategic decision to focus on suburban markets rather than competing in densely populated urban areas. He highlights how their hands-on experience with deliveries informed their understanding of market needs and opportunities outside city centers.

"had a few occasions like this in the history of Door Dash where business is actually going really well organically on its own without the aid of marketing spend or discounts. Um yet I can't raise a di..."

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17:01 - 18:14
1:12 duration217 words

Contrarian Approach to Market Focus

Tony Xu explains DoorDash's strategic decision to focus on suburban areas rather than urban centers, where most competitors were concentrated. He shares insights from their delivery experiences, revealing that customer demand was significantly higher outside city centers. This contrarian approach not only differentiated DoorDash but also proved to be a sound business decision.

"areas where people thought you needed order density in order to make the economics work. So, it was all hail, you know, city centers that had high population density. But because we had done all the d..."

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18:14 - 19:12
0:58 duration197 words

Listening to Customers for Growth

In this segment, Xu elaborates on how DoorDash's commitment to customer feedback guided their growth strategy. He discusses the economic advantages of serving suburban families and how understanding customer needs led to stronger unit economics. This focus on customer insights became a cornerstone of DoorDash's success.

"that always became, you know, a a a um a general mantra we had whenever we were in question of what to build. Listen to the customer, run the test. And that was certainly one of the things, you know e..."

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19:12 - 20:11
0:58 duration185 words

Navigating Funding Challenges

Tony Xu reflects on the difficulties DoorDash faced in raising capital during its growth phase, particularly in 2016-2018. Despite strong internal metrics, the company struggled to secure funding due to investor hesitance. This segment highlights the challenges of being a startup in a competitive market and the resilience required to overcome them.

"sort of choose suburbs. But what I'm hearing is actually certainly that might have been true but like being super customer obsessed was like the number one reason. Well, it was the number one reason o..."

13
20:11 - 21:12
1:01 duration198 words

Emerging as a Market Leader

Xu discusses how DoorDash eventually became the market leader in food delivery, surpassing competitors like Uber Eats and GrubHub. He attributes this success to superior customer retention and engagement, which allowed DoorDash to maximize the impact of its investments. This segment showcases the importance of building a loyal customer base in a competitive industry.

"that wasn't the first instinct you know the first instinct was just listening to what the customers had told us um where the need does, but it was very easy to prove out very very quickly, you know th..."

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21:12 - 22:44
1:31 duration282 words

The Impact of COVID-19 on Delivery

In this segment, Tony Xu recounts the tumultuous period during the COVID-19 pandemic, where delivery demand fluctuated dramatically. He shares how DoorDash adapted by cutting commissions and launching a campaign that highlighted competitors. This period tested the company's agility and commitment to serving customers amidst unprecedented challenges.

"volume to make the math work. To get there, you have to invest before you get the demand. And so we needed to raise capital. And there were a couple there were a few years actually in a row three year..."

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22:44 - 25:20
2:36 duration463 words

Crisis Management and Company Culture

Xu reflects on the operational challenges DoorDash faced during the COVID-19 crisis, emphasizing the importance of keeping employees safe and ensuring efficient delivery. He describes the intense work environment and the clarity of purpose that emerged during this time. This segment illustrates how crisis can drive focus and innovation within a company.

"before that moment. It's not an a game that's just measured on your own scores. It it's a relative score um in in some ways, especially when a market hasn't been yet defined or that it's not obvious w..."

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26:10 - 27:39
1:28 duration303 words

Long-Term Vision Over Short-Term Gains

In this segment, Tony Xu articulates the importance of a long-term perspective in business decisions. He explains how DoorDash prioritized building a sustainable company over immediate profitability, emphasizing the goal of empowering local businesses and contributing to economic growth.

"jobs. Um it was very easy to run the company. Now, you called out a couple of decisions that were made that were more controversial in the company. One was running a national TV campaign where we spen..."

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27:39 - 29:32
1:53 duration364 words

Becoming an Expert Through Action

Xu shares advice for young entrepreneurs, stressing the value of hands-on experience in becoming an expert. He reflects on his own journey in logistics and delivery, encouraging the next generation to dive into their fields and learn through doing, especially in the rapidly evolving landscape of AI and technology.

"made that decision. That's amazing. It's so super long-termist basically. I think that's the only way you can make some of these decisions. I think if you're just purely looking at some of these decis..."

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29:32 - 31:16
1:44 duration294 words

The Future of DoorDash and the Physical World

Tony Xu expresses optimism about the future of DoorDash and the importance of understanding the physical world. He highlights the ongoing opportunities in local businesses and the critical role they play in job creation and economic prosperity, reinforcing the idea that both digital and physical realms are vital for growth.

"the work. What are you excited about for Door Dash? Like what, you know, what what comes next and what does Door Dash look like in the future? I think there's obviously a big um exploration and set of..."