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Jeff Clavier and Andrea Zurek - Startup Investor School Day 3

Jeff Clavier and Andrea Zurek - Startup Investor School Day 3

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Startup Investor School is a free, 4-day course designed to educate early stage investors interested in investing in startups. We'll cover the fundamentals of investing, from investing instruments to legal and accounting basics to evaluating startups and managing deal flow. Our hope is that more people, from a wide range of backgrounds will consider investing in startups and that those who do will be better at it. Learn more at https://investor.startupschool.org/

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0:00 - 1:16
1:16 duration182 words

Lessons from Jeff Clavier

Andrea Zurek introduces Jeff Clavier, highlighting the invaluable lessons he has taught her about being a good investor. She emphasizes the importance of making wise investment choices and being a supportive partner to founders. Jeff's insights on focusing amidst the chaos of startup life are particularly noteworthy, setting the stage for the day's discussions.

"Jeff is someone that I met in the very beginning of my venture into venture when I first started investing a long time ago and he is he taught me as many lessons about how to be a good investor and in..."

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1:16 - 2:01
0:44 duration149 words

The Importance of Asset Allocation

Jeff Clavier dives into the often-overlooked topic of asset allocation in startup investing. He stresses the significance of understanding how to allocate funds wisely as investors embark on their journey. Clavier shares his background in finance and venture capital, establishing credibility as he prepares to discuss the nuances of investment strategies.

"globby a thank you so much he's a great investor without anyone else you know helping him so it's a pleasure to be here super exciting to see so many people who are ready to do the most exciting thing..."

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2:01 - 3:02
1:01 duration176 words

Understanding the Long Game

Clavier discusses the long-term nature of startup investments, emphasizing that significant outcomes often take 8 to 10 years to materialize. He warns new investors about the risks involved, including the likelihood of losses, and encourages them to be prepared for the realities of venture investing.

"Android journey sort of brief BIOS I was born French you to start up in the financial services market in France got acquired spend seven years at Reuters as a senior exec so you know the big company t..."

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3:02 - 4:14
1:11 duration167 words

Investing Wisely: The Risks

In this segment, Clavier elaborates on the risks associated with angel investing, advising that investors should only use money they can afford to lose. He shares personal anecdotes about his own investment journey, reinforcing the need for a realistic approach to startup funding.

"ago when I was investing my own capital as an anvil so what I like to do in those kinds of events is go back in history and and talk about hey this is what I wish someone had told me then as opposed t..."

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4:14 - 5:01
0:47 duration131 words

Investment Timeline Expectations

Clavier outlines the typical timeline for recovering investments in startups, explaining that it often takes six years to see returns. He emphasizes the importance of patience and understanding the investment cycle, which is crucial for new angel investors.

"almost never happens for you for most and rolls it will take 8 to 10 years so starts sort of being ready for that obviously it's very risky so you're gonna have losses those will come very fast typica..."

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5:01 - 6:12
1:10 duration158 words

Navigating the Startup Ecosystem

Clavier provides insights into the startup ecosystem, discussing the various stages of investment and the importance of understanding valuations. He encourages investors to assess the traction and potential risks of companies before making investment decisions.

"and so at the end of the day you have to be modest and realistic and understand that anything you invest has a likely high likelihood of just being wiped out which means don't invest money that you ca..."

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6:12 - 7:00
0:48 duration120 words

Valuation Insights for Investors

In this segment, Clavier explains how valuations reflect a company's traction and potential. He contrasts early-stage investments with later-stage funding, highlighting the differences in risk and return potential, using Dropbox as a case study.

"from into companies that series ISM and so forth so you'll be part of this right and you guys will sort of start figuring out your own comfort with valuations and the simple way to think about valuati..."

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7:00 - 8:44
1:43 duration277 words

Investment Strategy Framework

Clavier discusses how to determine the appropriate amount of net worth to allocate to startup investments. He suggests a framework for new investors to consider their risk tolerance and investment horizon, emphasizing the importance of having a clear strategy.

"important for you to figure out and I'm gonna give you know two examples think about dropbox dropbox you could have invested if you were lucky at three pre but i was at the crazy time where there was ..."

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8:44 - 10:03
1:19 duration210 words

Setting Investment Budgets

Clavier shares practical advice on setting an initial investment budget for angel investing. He discusses the importance of pacing investments and the potential for participating in syndicates, encouraging new investors to start small and gradually increase their involvement.

"way to think about it everybody has you know sort of circumstances if you have a family if your pulmonary work doesn't work whatever if you have you know whatever I think ten percent is probably sort ..."

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10:03 - 11:21
1:17 duration239 words

Defining Your Investment Strategy

In this segment, Clavier outlines key factors to consider when defining an investment strategy, including check size, target number of investments, and sector focus. He emphasizes the need for consistency and a clear narrative in investment approaches.

"not I would say for you guys who want to do this professionally awesome I personally I think that you know thinking about a an initial budget of $100,000 which you know you would divide in a number of..."

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11:21 - 12:55
1:34 duration281 words

Portfolio Construction Essentials

Clavier discusses the essentials of portfolio construction for angel investors, including the importance of diversification and understanding the sectors in which one invests. He encourages investors to think critically about their strategies and the types of companies they want to support.

"you're useful paying taxes or you know your expenses of whatever is actually a sort of a good trick so what's real construction that defines the key factors of your investment strategy right and so th..."

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12:55 - 14:10
1:14 duration218 words

Investment Horizons and Strategies

Clavier elaborates on the different strategies investors can adopt based on their comfort levels and investment horizons. He discusses the benefits of local investing versus broader geographic strategies, encouraging investors to choose what aligns with their goals.

"they proceeded stage your first check or will you actually try and follow on and go into your company so those are sort of a few six six sort of factors I want you guys to think about as you sort of d..."

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14:10 - 15:00
0:49 duration161 words

The Value of Early-Stage Investing

Clavier wraps up by discussing the value of early-stage investing and the potential for high returns. He emphasizes the importance of understanding the risks involved and encourages investors to be proactive in their investment strategies.

"size of our funds portfolio some people want to go 400 some people want to do you know one or two deals a year it's okay as long as you build your narrative and your strategy around the number that yo..."

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14:50 - 16:40
1:49 duration301 words

Navigating Early-Stage Investments

Jeff Clavier discusses the landscape of early-stage investing, emphasizing the importance of understanding risk tolerance and investment strategies. He highlights the feasibility of investing in startups at various stages, from seed funding to later rounds, and the significance of local versus broader investment strategies. Clavier encourages investors to define their comfort levels and investment characteristics to effectively build a portfolio.

"those are some early-stage sectors I sort of mentioned so proceed you build the product seed your own post gnomes means you start having sort of more data and some people are not comfortable investing..."

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16:40 - 19:12
2:31 duration397 words

The Importance of Diversification

In this segment, Clavier stresses the necessity of diversification in startup investments. He explains the concept of time-based investment strategies and how spreading investments across different sectors can mitigate risks. Clavier uses examples from the market to illustrate how a diversified approach can lead to better outcomes, especially in volatile environments.

"no good answer it's whatever you guys are comfortable with as an angel I'd never did any for a while right do I regret it what for the best deals of course but that was also my strategy which which sa..."

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19:12 - 20:09
0:57 duration175 words

Asset Allocation Insights

Clavier provides insights into asset allocation and portfolio construction for angel investors. He emphasizes the importance of understanding the risks involved in startup investments and suggests that investors should not put all their cash into one venture. This segment serves as a primer on how to approach investment decisions with a strategic mindset.

"time and sectors unless you really want to double down on one sector you know really well spreading it across sectors is a good way to avoid tanking example milk it's right there was a time where ther..."

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20:09 - 22:00
1:50 duration269 words

Transformations in Angel Investing

Andrea Zurek introduces Jeff Clavier, highlighting his role in the transformation of early-stage investing over the past decade. She discusses how Clavier became one of the first super angels and the significance of building a personal brand in the investment space. This segment sets the stage for Zurek's upcoming discussion on personal branding for investors.

"luck thank you Jeff as I mentioned before again we're going to have both come up and talk and then we'll do a QA I realized as after I sat down that I did I just I got so excited that Jeff was gonna c..."

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22:00 - 24:43
2:42 duration412 words

Building Your Personal Brand

Andrea Zurek shares her insights on the importance of personal branding for investors. She uses the example of the hip-hop group Run DMC to illustrate how effective branding can leverage partnerships and create a lasting impact. Zurek encourages investors to think about their reputation and how they want to be perceived in the industry.

"Chuck okay so I'm Andreea and okay someone needs to take this away from me because I like is it Otto can we slow it down then because it goes too way too fast we gotta give Run DMC some props before I..."

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24:43 - 26:59
2:16 duration437 words

Lessons from Top Brands

In this segment, Zurek discusses the qualities that make brands like Apple and Google successful. She emphasizes the importance of delivering on promises and maintaining a strong reputation. Zurek encourages aspiring investors to consider what it takes to build a brand that stands out in the competitive landscape of angel investing.

"have a few identifiers in here not only consumer brands but also tech brands I mean obviously consumers like McDonald's and we also talked about adidas earlier here in the valley we have tech brands i..."

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26:59 - 30:31
3:31 duration791 words

Paths to Angel Investing

Zurek outlines various paths to becoming an angel investor, including joining groups or forming personal brands. She shares her experience with angel groups and the benefits of learning from others in the field. This segment provides practical advice for those looking to navigate the angel investing landscape effectively.

"reputation basically precedes you and how do you want to identify yourself and be known I guess in the valley or whatever you know geographic region applies to you and you want to be proud of that obv..."

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31:00 - 32:26
1:26 duration292 words

Creating Your Own Investment Brand

Zurek explains the journey of forming XG Ventures after her experiences with angel investing. She discusses the importance of branding and how her background at Google influenced their mission to give back to the startup community. This segment emphasizes the need for a clear identity and purpose in the investment landscape.

"super early at Google so we joined as sub 100 employees I mean I was there when there were basically only five desks and the building there were very few people working at Google when I joined but it ..."

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32:26 - 33:41
1:14 duration268 words

The Evergreen Fund Approach

In this segment, Zurek describes the structure of XG Ventures as an evergreen fund, explaining how they operate using their own capital. She discusses the flexibility this model provides in making investment decisions and the importance of maintaining a balanced portfolio while supporting existing investments.

"angel investing as a business we did not think that we had all the answers but we definitely wanted there was a little bit of altruism there in addition to writing cheques we wanted to be able to dedi..."

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33:41 - 35:38
1:57 duration420 words

Navigating Failures and Successes in Investing

Zurek candidly shares her experiences with both failures and successes in angel investing. She emphasizes the necessity of resilience and adaptability in the industry, noting that many investors will face setbacks before achieving significant wins. This segment serves as a reminder of the long-term commitment required in startup investing.

"cool it's a lot of startup companies use that a lot of law firms use it it's a great way to kind of capture and manage all of your companies your shares your 409a plans etc I won't read all of them I ..."

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35:38 - 37:14
1:36 duration379 words

The Art and Science of Investment Decisions

This segment delves into the dual nature of investment decisions, highlighting the blend of art and science involved. Zurek reflects on missed opportunities, such as passing on investing in Uber, and stresses the importance of being flexible and open-minded in the face of changing market dynamics.

"at least 10 years for a decent return and as an angel investor you know what you're not going to get into every hot deal there are gonna be some deals or you know the lights just kick and scream and w..."

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37:14 - 38:01
0:47 duration175 words

Consistency in Building Your Investment Brand

Zurek discusses the importance of consistency in branding as an investor. She outlines strategies for establishing a strong presence in the investment community, including networking, maintaining communication, and being actively involved in industry events. This segment emphasizes that building a reputable brand takes time and effort.

"invest and then brandy and lastly must be consistent you know a lot of these big brands don't happen overnight you know you have to have a consistent message like show up to all the events that you ge..."

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38:01 - 40:12
2:10 duration427 words

Defining Your Focus and Value as an Investor

In this segment, Zurek encourages aspiring investors to define their focus and the unique value they bring to the table. She discusses the importance of aligning with complementary firms and building a robust network to support investment endeavors. This segment serves as a guide for new investors to carve out their niche in the competitive landscape.

"through this because I realize there probably been talking for too long but if we were to go through all the different things that define brand for example it's trust loyalty opinion identity percepti..."

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40:12 - 41:00
0:48 duration174 words

The Hustle of Angel Investing

Zurek concludes by emphasizing the hustle required in angel investing. She highlights the need for persistence, networking, and being proactive in seeking opportunities. This segment encapsulates the essence of being an engaged and committed investor in the startup ecosystem.

"then a couple more things that I think are important is that you want to align yourself with complementary firms across the entire ecosystem build your network I can't say enough about this networking..."

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40:45 - 41:20
0:34 duration118 words

The Power of Networking

In this segment, Clavier discusses the critical role of networking in the startup ecosystem. He stresses the importance of maintaining relationships with key individuals and being proactive in making introductions, especially when seeking support during tough times.

"something to keep in mind there and I just put this in here because we also do gaming technology and newb is a reference to newbies by the way this I thought was kind of fun just to kind of break thin..."

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41:20 - 42:01
0:41 duration132 words

Managing Your Online Presence

Clavier talks about the significance of managing your online presence as an angel investor. He explores the options of maintaining a website versus relying on word-of-mouth and emphasizes the importance of being known for quality deal flow and having a strong reputation in the industry.

"are things you know opinion matters people talk people talk in the industry you don't think they do but you know referrals are pretty strong here in the valley so just some things to keep in mind you ..."

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42:01 - 43:01
0:59 duration188 words

The Importance of Reputation

This segment focuses on the importance of reputation in angel investing. Clavier discusses how being known for quality deal flow and maintaining good relationships with other investors can enhance your standing in the industry. He also highlights the need for consistency and excellence in all dealings.

"identity or second glass a third to last how do you manage your online presence you know do you maintain a website or does someone maintain that for you what's your social media structure like or are ..."

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43:01 - 44:02
1:00 duration203 words

Investing with Conviction

Clavier shares insights on the necessity of investing with high conviction. He reflects on past investments, emphasizing that doubt often leads to poor outcomes. He encourages investors to trust their instincts and only pursue opportunities they genuinely believe in.

"about before are you attending the right events I mean obviously we're fortunate to be here at Y Combinator are you going to the right Y Combinator events are you going to the other accelerator events..."

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44:02 - 45:18
1:16 duration262 words

Long-Term Thinking in Investing

In this concluding segment, Clavier discusses the importance of long-term thinking in angel investing. He encourages investors to build a reputation over time, be a resource for others, and enjoy the process of investing while aiming for meaningful contributions to the startup ecosystem.

"investments do you want repeat entrepreneurs do you want new blood you want to invest in a hacker a hustler what's your sweet spot for valuation build a portfolio that represents you that you want to ..."

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53:04 - 54:02
0:58 duration205 words

The Regrets of an Investor

Jeff Clavier reflects on missed investment opportunities, particularly LinkedIn, and discusses the importance of having a strong filter for evaluating entrepreneurs. He shares insights on the challenges of predicting success and the lessons learned from past decisions, emphasizing the need for careful consideration in investment choices.

"up sort of liking entrepreneurs that just didn't have the passion and the energy that took to really sort of go for it so we could we should have had a better filter and hopefully your filter is bette..."

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54:02 - 55:00
0:57 duration185 words

Understanding Valuations and Success

Clavier discusses the complexities of investing in startups with inflated valuations and the importance of managing expectations with entrepreneurs. He highlights the need for a clear understanding of what success means beyond just raising funds, stressing the importance of maintaining focus on actual performance.

"was and I couldn't like get back in but I think for the ones where we put a bunch of money and then the company is sort of you know had a good trajectory and then and then flattened I think it's alway..."

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55:00 - 56:22
1:21 duration200 words

Super Angels vs. Angels: Key Differences

Andrea Zurek and Jeff Clavier explore the distinctions between super angels and traditional angels in the investment landscape. They discuss the responsibilities that come with larger investments and the expectations from the market, emphasizing the importance of being a lead investor and actively supporting portfolio companies.

"the cures we have so so yes this question is I you both sort of super angels although Jeff Jeff has raised a fund which makes it a little different what what what's the biggest difference in investing..."

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56:22 - 57:49
1:27 duration315 words

Determining the Right Check Size

The speakers delve into strategies for determining appropriate check sizes for investments. They advise against making overly large initial investments without sufficient information and discuss the importance of understanding ownership percentages and the potential impact of each investment on the overall portfolio.

"be honest that's where entrepreneurs come to us as well I imagine you construct both of you probably construct your check size differently now than you did when you were beginning how do you guys thin..."

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57:49 - 59:04
1:14 duration231 words

The Math Behind Startup Investments

Clavier emphasizes the importance of calculating potential returns and understanding the distribution of investments. He shares insights on how to estimate the number of investments to make and the expected outcomes, encouraging investors to do their math and plan strategically for their investment portfolios.

"I think anything less than that you know you might be you might be lucky but I think 50 thousands typically the sweet spot so here is the brutal math right you're gonna invest in about 40 companies fu..."

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59:04 - 1:04:01
4:57 duration877 words

Navigating Industry Concentration

Zurek discusses the challenges of industry concentration in investment portfolios, sharing experiences from the gaming sector. She highlights the importance of diversifying investments and avoiding overlaps between companies, while also stressing the need for a flexible investment strategy that adapts to market signals.

"would argue that it is is just what you should do what you noticed there is he's done the math and you should do the math so estimate how many investments you will make over a period of time per year ..."