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In this weeks episode of The Diary Of A CEO titled "Overcoming Depression, Burnout, Anxiety and Insomnia with Dan Murray-Serter" we discuss: 0:00 Intro 0:52 Depression - where did it all start? 11:25 Psychedelics 23:59 Posting online despite what people think 40:44 Burnout 53:17 Anxiety 01:01:30 Supplements & brand 01:14:20 How do you find the guts to keep going despite failure? 01:23:43 Relationships 01:53:01 Are you happy? 01:59:41 Are you scared of dying? 02:00:21 Dinner party 02:04:31 Outro Listen on: Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/episode/0ksC4tPYLlqqgXnC691n3h?si=6R2zsEH6TuS6cHkFxuPkMA Apple Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/e54-overcoming-depression-burnout-anxiety-insomnia/id1291423644?i=1000496078648 My book pre-order: (UK, US, AUS, NZ Link) - http://hyperurl.co/xenkw2 (EU & Rest of the World Link) https://www.bookdepository.com/Happy-Sexy-Millionaire-Steven-Bartlett/9781529301496?ref=grid-view&qid=1610300058833&sr=1-2 Thank you so much to Dan Murray from www.yourheights.com for this amazing conversation! FOLLOW ► Facebook: http://bit.ly/StevenBartlettFacebook Twitter: http://bit.ly/SteveSCTwitter Instagram: http://bit.ly/StevenBartlettInstagram Linkedin: http://bit.ly/StevenBartlettLinkedIn
Dan Murray-Serter opens up about his journey with depression, burnout, anxiety, and insomnia. He reflects on how these mental health challenges began and the deeper issues he uncovered, including his struggle with bulimia. This segment explores the complexities of mental health and the importance of acknowledging and discussing these experiences.
"it's very rare that you get to meet entrepreneurs that are following and have followed in the steps that you followed in in your life and like so whenever i meet people like you and ben francis who is..."
In this segment, Dan shares his personal experience with bulimia, detailing how it affected his life and mental health. He discusses the embarrassment of admitting to such a condition and the physical consequences he faced, including a serious health scare that led to hospitalization. This candid conversation highlights the often-hidden struggles associated with eating disorders.
"health condition that bad that i would psychologically throw up when there was nothing biologically wrong with me um that's really awkward to admit to yourself it's also far more terrifying to admit i..."
Dan reflects on the profound impact of losing his father on his mental health, describing a period of deep depression that followed. He discusses the existential crisis that ensued, questioning his beliefs and the concept of justice in the world. This segment delves into the emotional turmoil of grief and the search for meaning after a significant loss.
"like like get me on uh meds and sort me out but it's so interesting because even knowing that that had happened to me i didn't relate the cause to actually a deeper root cause which was another mental..."
After a transformative experience with ayahuasca, Dan shares how he shifted from a state of disbelief to a newfound sense of spirituality. He discusses the importance of believing in something greater than oneself, whether it be nature or a higher power. This segment emphasizes the role of spiritual beliefs in overcoming mental health challenges and finding purpose.
"nothing um you know i think it's really interesting to have conversations with people intelligent people like yourself when you talk about purpose and vision and these things it's very hard to imagine..."
Dan articulates his belief in nature as a profound and grounding force in his life. He contrasts this belief with traditional religious views, emphasizing the significance of having a belief system, regardless of its form. This segment explores how connecting with nature can provide a sense of stability and guide personal values.
"was 90 percent of my hallucination was observing what happens in nature with cycles right birds bees oxygen air soil all of this recycling all the time for a sustainable system and being like you know..."
Dan explains the nature of ayahuasca as a guided experience, emphasizing the importance of having a shaman present. He contrasts ayahuasca with other psychedelics, detailing the profound and often painful insights gained from his multiple experiences, which he believes surpass traditional therapy.
"on this ayahuasca experience what exactly did you do on that experience so ayahuasca is essentially uh and it's completely natural it's tree sap from the amazon um and it's been practiced for thousand..."
Discussing the potential of psychedelics, Dan highlights how they can unlock truths about oneself and lead to transformative insights. He references Michael Pollan's book 'How to Change Your Mind' and shares his belief in the lasting impact of these experiences on one's worldview.
"worst realities and i've learned more in those weekends that i've done this then you know you can learn with therapists and you can learn yourself so staggering everyone says this to me and it's and y..."
Dan recounts his first ayahuasca experience, where he sought to connect with his father but instead gained a broader understanding of life's cycles. He emphasizes the importance of being open to unexpected lessons during these journeys and the ability to negotiate one's experience.
"thinking and it's it's it's crazy crazy for a normal person that isn't in this world or doesn't understand this to think that you can take a magic mushroom or a drug or a psychedelic or whatever you w..."
In this segment, Dan reflects on a pivotal lesson learned during his ayahuasca experiences about gratitude. He shares a vivid vision of living in the shoes of a less fortunate child, which taught him that true fulfillment comes from appreciating what one already has rather than constantly seeking more.
"me you lie down the pitch blacks fluid it's like a shot it tastes disgusting but some people like it you lie back um and and the shamans basically start playing music and it's a completely guided faci..."
Dan discusses the significance of carrying a totem stone as a daily reminder of gratitude. He explains how this practice helps him appreciate his fortunate circumstances and encourages a mindset shift towards recognizing the beauty in everyday life.
"um and especially because it's not pleasant um the first time i did it was you know the single most life-changing moment in my life not only got over my depression you know i went and spent the whole ..."
Dan emphasizes that gaining wisdom from experiences, such as ayahuasca, is meaningless without taking action. He reflects on his own struggles to implement lessons learned and the bravery required to make meaningful changes in life.
"the world but a very poor part of the world where there was this like kid like begging in the street basically and i like became that kid and i became this person like trying to get water for his fami..."
In this segment, Dan opens up about his struggles with imposter syndrome and the mental barriers that prevent him from fully embracing his identity. He shares how he has taken proactive steps to combat these feelings, including starting a weekly newsletter to build confidence in his expertise.
"weekend and i've been guilty of that too i've learned i've learned lessons that i haven't necessarily followed through with and you know and and sometimes it's because they take bravery and i feel lik..."
Dan discusses his commitment to learning about neuroscience and nutrition through consistent reading and writing. He explains how this practice not only combats imposter syndrome but also deepens his understanding of the subjects, ultimately benefiting his personal and professional growth.
"and that almost imprisoned me it almost stopped me from doing the thing that actually liberated me made me the most fulfilled i've ever been and by allowing me to be my like true self and in fact what..."
In this segment, Dan explains his choice to focus on LinkedIn for personal branding after his previous company's failure. He emphasizes the importance of authenticity and sharing his journey, including failures and successes, to connect with others and build a following. He reflects on the growth of his audience and the value of being open about his entrepreneurial experiences.
"it's just been 101 now um in 100 weeks i won't be a neuroscientist or a nutritionist but i will have read over 100 science papers and i'll know what science says is good for your brain according to jo..."
Dan critiques the concept of 'stealth mode' in entrepreneurship, arguing that it hinders feedback and growth. He shares his frustrations with entrepreneurs who hide their ideas, emphasizing that execution is what truly matters. This segment highlights the importance of open communication and seeking help from others in the entrepreneurial community.
"you know that impressive but i went from like 3 000 followers or something to almost 25 000 on the basis of and as you know there's no putting money behind anything in linkedin or anything literally j..."
Dan and Steven discuss the psychological barriers that prevent individuals from sharing their thoughts and ideas on platforms like Instagram. They explore the roots of this fear, including past experiences and the pressure of judgment from peers. This conversation delves into the importance of overcoming these fears to foster authentic connections.
"with the help you know it's the other thing going slightly off piece sorry but you know my biggest bug bear in entrepreneurship is stealth mode i think stealth mode is like the most stupid thing that ..."
In this segment, Dan reflects on the challenges of evolving personal identity as an entrepreneur. He discusses the importance of shedding past identities and the difficulty of letting go of relationships that no longer serve one's growth. This conversation emphasizes the need for self-reflection and the courage to embrace new paths.
"this is what i think these are my ideas comment below if you agree yeah you're it's a great question um so i guess as a starting point like it's worth saying that i think a very healthy way to approac..."
Dan shares his annual practice of reflecting on his purpose and values with his wife. He emphasizes the significance of thoughtful planning and self-awareness in personal and professional growth. This segment highlights how understanding one's purpose can lead to better decision-making and a more fulfilling life.
"and i can think that person from four years ago is going to think i'm a dick 100 dude like the thing that i've learned which is so interesting is 90 percent of my fear of what people will think is bas..."
Dan connects the concepts of neuroplasticity and manifestation, explaining how the brain can change and adapt based on our thoughts and intentions. He discusses the importance of setting clear goals and being proactive in shaping one's future. This segment underscores the power of mindset in overcoming challenges and achieving personal growth.
"you know mental health conditioning is attached to our holding onto the past and refusing to sort of embrace the future and that's why you know i think it's really important to set out a clear underst..."
Dan and Steven discuss the glamorization of burnout in today's society, critiquing hustle culture and its negative impact on mental health. They reflect on personal experiences with burnout and the importance of recognizing when to rest and recharge. This segment serves as a reminder of the need for balance in the pursuit of success.
"that um if you are into spirituality like i am then it's called manifestation right it's spending the time thinking about what you're gonna do and how you're gonna get that and then to put it into lik..."
Murray-Serter critiques the hustle culture popularized by figures like Gary Vaynerchuk, highlighting its negative impact on mental health. He reflects on his own experiences with burnout and the misconception that relentless work equates to success and happiness.
"and us being a burnout generation and how we've kind of glamorized it we're optimizing our lives so we can fill it with more things to do did you burn out how did you burn out and you understand why y..."
In this segment, Dan shares his personal journey with burnout while running his startup, Grapple. He discusses the disconnect between external success and internal happiness, revealing how he found himself trapped in a business that didn't align with his passions.
"in the sense that because he's being his authentic self which we can't you know uh um we can't criticize anyone for being in fact that's what we tell everyone to be be yourself and chat you know and b..."
Murray-Serter describes the physical and emotional toll of burnout, including his inability to get out of bed and the feelings of despair that accompanied it. He reflects on the lessons learned from this challenging period and the importance of self-awareness.
"but here's the thing like there's two reasons why i had burnout last time the first was because i wasn't happy on what i was working and running a startup can feel a bit like a cage sometimes so uh un..."
Dan discusses the link between anxiety and insomnia, sharing his personal struggle with both. He explains how anxiety can create a vicious cycle that exacerbates sleep issues, leading to a deeper understanding of mental health challenges.
"me like you were getting dragged you weren't pulling a bit yeah a bit but then at the same time like you know like everyone i'm scared of failure so i didn't want to be a failure so i wanted to make i..."
In this segment, Murray-Serter elaborates on the symptoms of chronic anxiety, including self-doubt and personality changes. He reflects on how these feelings affected his confidence and overall mental state, particularly during times of stress.
"but then motivation and i started looking at motivation and the spectrum it sits on of on one end being totally uh extrinsic you're literally doing it because you're forced to and then on the other en..."
Dan shares his insights on balancing passion and work to prevent burnout. He emphasizes the importance of scheduling personal time and self-care, especially when pursuing a career that aligns with one's purpose.
"three in heaven but you know i don't quite believe in heaven so it's irrelevant but point being um you know so many co-founders introduced i really just believe in the serendipity of creating you know..."
Murray-Serter discusses the proactive steps he takes to avoid burnout, including scheduling downtime and prioritizing mental health. He highlights the significance of self-awareness and setting boundaries in a demanding work environment.
"time but the thing that's really interesting to me this time right so i analyzed that as partly burned out and i was trying to do too much to and not spending enough time on myself not having any rest..."
In this segment, Dan reveals his number one mental health hack: going for walks. He explains how this simple practice not only benefits his physical health but also enhances his mental clarity and learning opportunities.
"this time around because it's a bit like the imposter syndrome right how am i going to overcome it i'll write a newsletter every week great i feel way less like that now same thing burn out i don't fe..."
Dan Murray-Serter shares his personal experience with anxiety and insomnia, describing how they are interconnected. He explains the self-fulfilling nature of these conditions, detailing his six-month struggle with insomnia and the anxiety that accompanied it. Despite having a seemingly happy life, he reflects on the unexpected onset of these issues and the chronic anxiety that ensued.
"anxiety yeah so the anxiety and insomnia were completely linked with each other so a really really fascinating experience to me the most interesting of all of them really because at the time i got and..."
In this segment, Dan discusses the complexities of anxiety, linking it to self-doubt and the fear of the future. He references a quote by Lao Tzu about depression and anxiety, emphasizing the importance of mindfulness as an antidote. Dan connects his own experiences of loss and anxiety, illustrating how these feelings can create a cycle of distress.
"and you know basically chronic anxiety the feeling of chronic anxiety is lots of sweating lots of self-doubt um lots of um almost like a bit of a personality change in me you know outwardly i'm quite ..."
Dan recounts his journey to find solutions for his insomnia and anxiety, detailing various methods he tried, including therapy and sleep aids. He expresses skepticism towards medication and reflects on his determination to understand the root cause of his issues, leading him to seek help from a dietitian.
"exactly so the the truth is i tried all these different things so like i went to i did therapy i did sleep therapy i used all the apps calm sleepio i tried you know uh cutting out alcohol i tried drin..."
Dan shares insights from his dietitian about the importance of nutrition for mental health. He learns about the brain's nutritional needs and the deficiencies that can contribute to anxiety and insomnia. This revelation leads him to explore supplements that could support his mental well-being.
"for this journey the search for why this was happening and it led me in the end to a dietitian which i'd never worked with before and by the way i didn't even know what a dietitian was and heard of nu..."
In this segment, Dan discusses his initial skepticism about supplements but shares his surprise at their effectiveness. After taking recommended supplements, he experiences significant improvements in his sleep and anxiety levels. He emphasizes the importance of scientific research in understanding the benefits of nutrition for mental health.
"would help make lymphatic system whilst i slept right she's saying this stuff to me i'm like so skeptical i can't even tell you not only not a supplement taker um but she's now recommending me three s..."
Dan reflects on the gap between scientific knowledge and public awareness regarding nutrition and mental health. He expresses his desire to communicate these findings in an engaging way, leading to the creation of a newsletter that simplifies scientific research for a broader audience.
"not just your mental health below the baseline so if you're suffering from insomnia if you're suffering from anxiety even if you've got depression schizophrenia like so many medical papers scientific ..."
Dan shares the inspiration behind starting Heights, a company focused on brain health supplements. He discusses the importance of effective branding and communication in promoting mental health awareness and the role of community in building a successful product.
"taking care of your brain not something anyone's actually talked about clearly and actually found a really meaningful way to communicate what that stands for and what science papers do really badly is..."
In this segment, Dan emphasizes the significance of branding and storytelling in the health supplement industry. He argues that effective communication can drive change and awareness about nutrition's impact on mental health, highlighting the need for a shift in how these topics are presented to the public.
"um you know a lot of people say brand and comms that is not a market strategy that is not defensible i think those people are idiots and the wrong market because you know my counter to that is do you ..."
Dan discusses the importance of community engagement in the success of Heights. He reflects on the challenges of establishing a loyal customer base and the strategies used to encourage ongoing commitment to health and wellness through supplements.
"and so you started heights and so i started heights how's it going great question we launched january the 6th in a pandemic well not in a pandemic yet i have to say you know i saw this on my facebook ..."
Dan Murray-Serter discusses the challenges of the supplement industry, highlighting how many products fail to deliver effective doses. He emphasizes the importance of consumer awareness and the psychological barriers that prevent people from consistently taking supplements. The conversation explores how design and community engagement can help overcome these hurdles.
"so guess how much seven seas put into their number one best-selling product 45 on the dot and that means you have to take seven c's for six days straight just to get one day's worth of the scientific ..."
In this segment, Dan shares insights on how to help people build lasting habits around supplement intake. He discusses the importance of product design, communication, and creating a supportive community to encourage consistent use. The conversation touches on the psychological aspects of commitment and the challenges of maintaining healthy routines.
"so people just give up and you know there's two things to that there's one there's sort of like guilt about the promises that you were like with the person you wanted to be and then the second is just..."
Dan emphasizes the need for prioritizing brain health in our daily routines, comparing it to the societal norms surrounding skincare and haircare. He discusses how the focus on brain care can be normalized and integrated into people's lives, highlighting the significance of mental well-being in overall health.
"now what happens for most people in the first month let's be real right like you just said you know scientifically typically speaking this product will last will take three months for you to feel anyt..."
Dan reflects on his entrepreneurial journey, discussing how he finds motivation in growth and learning rather than traditional measures of success. He introduces the concept of 'ikigai' and how it shapes his perspective on fulfillment and resilience in the face of failure.
"understanding why it's important you know the amount of money that we spend on skin care or hair care every day but nothing on brain care the most important organ in our body is so completely normaliz..."
In this segment, Dan shares his experiences with failure and the lessons learned from past ventures. He discusses the importance of understanding personal strengths and weaknesses, and how these insights have informed his approach to building a successful company culture and hiring practices.
"i talk about myself as a lifelong learner but lifelong intern was like even more powerful right i was like wow that's you know it's a real mindset towards you know um redefining what success is yeah b..."
In this segment, Dan highlights the significance of establishing company values before hiring employees. He explains how these values guide the hiring process and help create a team with the right mindset. Dan reflects on how understanding their core values has been crucial for him and his partner in building a successful business.
"forward um i think that's probably the one of the most important things i've done in my life with spending time on company values with a business partner by identifying gaps weaknesses and spending ti..."
Dan discusses the dynamics of his relationship with his business partner, Joel, and how their differing motivations impacted their collaboration. He shares insights on the importance of open communication and understanding each other's perspectives to foster a productive partnership.
"because what he meant by that was joel is like a very intelligent person so he is motivated by challenge if something is hard to fix right then he'll find a way to fix it that is like he'll get up in ..."
In this segment, Dan recounts the evolution of his romantic relationship, detailing how he initially approached it with a non-monogamous mindset. He reflects on the journey from casual dating to commitment, highlighting the importance of communication and mutual understanding in building a lasting partnership.
"but being able to say this stuff to each other with a letter to all out that then also gave me the confidence to say like joel came up with like two or three business ideas before like heights and we ..."
Dan shares his past beliefs about relationships and marriage, discussing how they were shaped by previous experiences. He emphasizes the need to confront and challenge these narratives to foster healthier relationships, illustrating his personal growth and changing perspectives.
"to pick right now your mates are married i literally gave her all the banter i was like your mates are married you're running out of options i'm still available you know let's do it you're not going t..."
In this segment, Dan discusses the importance of having uncomfortable conversations in relationships. He reflects on how addressing issues openly can prevent misunderstandings and strengthen bonds, advocating for a proactive approach to relationship dynamics.
"were rejecting her kind of in a way and protecting myself absolutely um and you know i think that was mutual for whatever reason for for a year and actually after a year you know we had that awkward c..."
Dan introduces the concept of applying business strategies to personal relationships. He explains how he and his wife set objectives and key results (OKRs) for their marriage, focusing on mutual growth and understanding. This segment highlights the innovative approach to maintaining a fulfilling partnership.
"find a little bit of um compromise somewhere in me um but still being ruthlessly apologetic didn't go well um and now i'm at a place where i'm currently single completely single and i need the answers..."
Dan elaborates on the practical steps he and his wife take to nurture their relationship. He discusses the importance of daily habits, such as communication and shared activities, in fostering intimacy and connection. This segment emphasizes the significance of intentionality in maintaining a healthy relationship.
"and i think having a spiritual connection with others and you know for some people like a sexual connection with multiple partners i think that this stuff is totally acceptable a b completely biologic..."
Dan Murray-Serter discusses the framework he and his partner applied to their marriage, focusing on creating a sustainable and fulfilling relationship. They break down their goals into mind, body, and soul, establishing habits like daily check-ins and learning together to foster growth and intimacy.
"framework to our marriage right what is the objective a long sustainable happy and fulfilling marriage what are the key results that get us there well we broke them down into mind body and soul right ..."
In this segment, Dan explores the tension between structured habits and spontaneity in relationships. He argues that having a routine can actually create more space for freedom and connection, countering the notion that rigidity stifles creativity and joy in life.
"to achieve it's it's people some people a certain type of person will listen to that and they'll think to themselves how robotic how robotic and you know i had the same conversation with near il who c..."
Dan reflects on the negative outcomes of neglecting important habits like communication and exercise in a relationship. He emphasizes that failing to engage in these practices can lead to misunderstandings and emotional strain, ultimately consuming more time and energy than maintaining the habits would.
"think about the opposite of this right so if you don't do some of this stuff if you don't i mean there's so many examples that are like filling my head right now so if i don't ask my wife how her day ..."
Dan shares insights on maintaining personal space within a relationship while ensuring emotional connection. He discusses how both partners can thrive independently while still supporting each other, highlighting the importance of understanding and respecting each other's need for personal time.
"if i don't call my mom every day she will call me up and ask me why i don't love her which will make me feel like [ __ ] for three days so i actually find that this stuff in in my you know again not e..."
In this engaging discussion, Dan and his partner delve into their fascination with true crime media. They explore how consuming such content can affect mental health, revealing the complexities of human nature and the emotional toll of grappling with dark themes.
"if you're lucky enough to learn what you like and how to be with yourself which takes quite a lot of learning a lot of us are very dependent on other people um and if i was still completely dependent ..."
Dan reflects on the lessons learned from true crime stories, emphasizing the unpredictable nature of humanity. He discusses how these narratives reveal deeper truths about love, infidelity, and the consequences of choices, prompting a thoughtful exploration of human behavior.
"mental health because you know you see things like you know but that husband loved that wife so much like why does he end up killing those two daughters and his wife oh you're talking about america ye..."
In this segment, Dan emphasizes the importance of setting clear goals and planning for potential crises in relationships. He advocates for open communication about difficult topics, ensuring that partners can navigate challenges together and maintain a strong bond.
"suppress making a short-term tough decision but that comes back to exactly what i was saying right which is yeah that comes back to the relation no it comes back to setting a vision for your relations..."
Dan shares his personal criteria for a successful relationship, focusing on intellectual stimulation, sexual attraction, and mutual growth. He reflects on how these fundamentals have evolved over time, highlighting the importance of depth and connection in lasting partnerships.
"what's your type i'd be like okay the brown hair the this that this they want to look like this they want to talk like this and this list was almost like it was endless right of like little specific s..."
In this concluding segment, Dan discusses the changing nature of attraction as relationships mature. He emphasizes the significance of intellectual connection and personal growth over superficial qualities, advocating for deeper bonds that withstand the test of time.
"that what are yours well i have to say sexual attraction is such an important thing to me in general but what i've learned is and you learn this a lot the more you read about relationships that is act..."
In this segment, Dan discusses how relationships should foster personal growth. He reflects on his own experiences, noting that a partner who encourages growth and challenges him is vital. He also mentions the significance of taking breaks from work to recharge and how this can enhance productivity and happiness.
"thing purely on the basis of um i'm more likely to fall out of love with the person that i'm with if one like you just said they don't intellectually challenge me second one again like you said like t..."
Dan highlights the importance of humor in relationships, sharing personal anecdotes about how laughter can strengthen bonds. He discusses how shared humor, especially in difficult times, can create a unique connection and help navigate life's challenges together.
"a person as well when you've got space and time and you've had thoughts there's a reason why thoughts come to us in the shower or on walks right it's because you're literally scientifically speaking y..."
Dan reflects on the concept of happiness, suggesting that fulfillment and contribution are more significant measures of a meaningful life. He argues that binary questions about happiness can lead to misunderstanding and anxiety, advocating for a more nuanced understanding of personal fulfillment.
"fumbling hot air balloons and all of this stuff i'm really hoping she isn't listening but the whole point of this podcast is to be honest so and it just wasn't there the first time ever in my life and..."
In this thought-provoking segment, Dan discusses his views on death and how fear of it can limit one's life. He shares insights from his experiences with ayahuasca, expressing a newfound lack of fear regarding death and emphasizing the importance of living authentically and fully.
"god we make each other laugh you know like we we have we both have a very similar very dark sense of humor um you know one of our things is actually um my when we fought on our first date um i brought..."
Dan and Steven engage in a deep conversation about the philosophical implications of death. They explore how letting go of the fear of death can lead to a more fulfilling life, encouraging listeners to focus on the present and the beauty of existence rather than the unknowns of the afterlife.
"are you happy yeah i was thinking about this question um the other day someone asked me two answers to that one yes i am happy like the the blunt answer is yes i'm happy because i'm fulfilled the good..."
Dan imagines a dinner party with two additional guests, choosing ancient philosopher Marcus Aurelius for his stoic wisdom and football legend Dennis Bergkamp for his authenticity. He also includes Oprah Winfrey for her insights on personal growth and storytelling, highlighting the diverse influences that shape his perspective.
"was in fact when you talked about you it's not when you you know you know what i mean yeah and i think that i mean of course like you talking about the struggles you've had and the agenda and motivati..."
Dan expresses admiration for Formula 1 champion Lewis Hamilton, discussing his achievements and commitment to social issues. He appreciates Hamilton's ability to leverage his platform for positive change and his dedication to environmental consciousness, showcasing the importance of values in high-performance environments.
"literally just think she's phenomenal yeah it felt stupid asking why yeah i mean just in every way right as in i just it's hard to pick a thing but let's just say then because of personal growth media..."
In this concluding segment, Dan reflects on the extreme focus required in Formula 1 racing, expressing a desire to learn from Hamilton about achieving such a high level of concentration. He emphasizes the significance of mindset and flow in high-stakes environments.
"will end up as because he just beat schumacher's record um and he seems like quite a nice bloke just in general like i just like when i see interviews of him i just like what a relatable guy that says..."
Dan concludes the podcast with heartfelt gratitude for the conversation and the insights shared. He encourages listeners to engage with the content and emphasizes the importance of honesty and vulnerability in discussions about personal growth and mental health.
"yeah hamilton sounds amazing listen thank you so much for your time today it's a pleasure to consider your friend uh a mentor through the content you produce in your podcast secret leaders but also ju..."