"the following is a conversation with michael i jordan a professor at berkeley and one of the most influential people in the history of machine learning statistics and artificial intelligence he has be..."

"given that you're one of the greats in the field of ai machine learning computer science and so on you're trivially called the michael jordan of machine learning although as you know you were born fir..."

"and computational ideas of previous generations but do you think there's something deeper about ai in his dreams and aspirations as compared to chemical engineering and electrical engineering well the..."

"send electrical signals just as you said even the basic mechanism of communication in the brain is not something we understand but do you hope without understanding the fundamental principles of how t..."

"so just uh in hopes of getting you to dream uh you've mentioned kolmogorov and touring might pop up do you think that there might be breakthroughs they'll get you to sit back in five ten years and say..."

"revolutionize the fundamentals of engineering of manufacturing of of saying here's a problem we know how to do a demo of and actually taking it to scale yeah so so there's going to be all kinds of bre..."

"we're in the very early days of really doing interesting stuff there and we'll get to that but it's just taking a quick step back can you give uh we kind of threw off the historian hat i mean you brie..."

"and aspects of this will look intelligent it will look computers were so dumb before they will seem more intelligent we will use that buzz word of intelligence so we can use it in that sense but you k..."

"know i if you read one of my little things um the history was basically that uh mccarthy needed a new name because cybernetics already existed and he didn't like you know no one really liked norbert w..."

"research that's outside of personality both and i wouldn't say there should be one kind of personality i have mine and i have my preferences and i have a kind of network around me that feeds me and an..."

"all right so you know um and it's interesting to try to take that as far as you can if you could do perfect prediction what would that give you kind of as a thought experiment um and um i think that's..."

"blah i'm not the only one working on those but we're a smaller tribe and right now we're not the the one that people talk about the most um but you know if you go out in the real world in industry um ..."

"which i will be beyond my expertise and and there are lots of things that are going to be very non-obvious to think about just like just again i like to think about history a little bit but think abou..."

"a millionaire all right and and now even think about really the value of music is in these personal connections even so much so that um a young kid wants to wear a t-shirt with their favorite musician..."

"to create such markets is it an ai problem is it an interface problem so interface design is it uh some other kind of it was an economics problem who should they hire to solve these problems well part..."

"think pretty high recommend you know um there's no magic in the algorithms but a good recommender system is way better than a bad recommender system and uh recommender systems was a billion dollar ind..."

"i think facebook just launched facebook news so they're having recommend the kind of news that are most likely for you to be interesting you think this is this ai solvable again whatever term want to ..."

"and the business model is that really what are are there some human producers and consumers out there is there some economic value to be liberated by connecting them directly is it such that it's so v..."

"will not find it and ai will not fix that okay at all right how do you allow that vacuum cleaner to start to get in front of people be sold well advertising and here what advertising is it's a signal ..."

"um and they're com you know facebook you know again god bless them they they bring you know grandmother's uh you know uh they bring children's pictures into grandmother's lives it's fantastic um but t..."

"component all that push first of all i i what we just talked about i was defending advertising okay so i was defending it as a way to get signals into a market that don't come any other way especially..."

"it's not for them it's not it's not that it's facebook that's not doing it because they care about them right in any real sense and they shouldn't they should not be a big brother caring about us that..."

"has the kind of personal information about us that could create a beautiful thing so i i'm really optimistic of what facebook could do uh it's not what it's doing but what it could do so i don't see t..."

"getting at is that little transaction how difficult is it to create a frictionless system like uber has for example for other things what's your intuition there uh so i first of all i pay little bits ..."

"really interesting question we may disagree maybe not i think that i love recommender systems and i want to give them everything about me in a way that i trust yeah but you but you don't because so fo..."

"not going to do those things you're going to make things worse okay so right now just give this a chance uh right now the recommender systems are the creepy people in the shadow watching your every mo..."

"what does control over privacy look like do you think you should be able to just view all the data that no it's much more than that i mean first of all it should be an individual decision some people ..."

"want certain people who i trust and there should be relationships i should kind of manage all those but who knows what about me i should have some agency there it shouldn't i shouldn't be a drift in a..."

"a lot of new structures that we don't have right now so it's kind of hard to talk about it and you're saying there's a lot of money to be made if you get it right so absolutely a lot of money to be ma..."

"hurting i'm not hurting yeah and you think technically speaking it's possible to help i don't know the answers but it's it's a it's a less anonymity a little more locality um you know worlds that you ..."

"so sorry for the big philosophical question but on that topic do you think human beings because you've also out of all things had a foot in psychology too the do you think human beings are fundamental..."

"you actually are well but do you think individual human life or society could be modeled as an optimization problem um not the way i think typically i mean that's your time one of the most complex phe..."

"complexity of such things what properties of optimization problems do you think so do you think most interesting problems that could be solved through optimization uh what kind of properties does that..."

"and the sampling paradigm and i want the um you know the the single point that's the best point in the par in the sample in the uh optimization paradigm now if you were optimizing in the space of prob..."

"sense sort of uh at least from from a robotics perspective for a single robot for a single agent trying to optimize some objective function when you start to enter the real world this game theoretic c..."

"we talk about you know mixtures of humans and computers and markets and so on so forth there'll be certain principles that allow us to understand what's happening and whether or not the actual algorit..."

"look for saddle points that's a good thing oh not optimization that's just game theory that that's so uh there's all kinds of different equilibria in game theory and some of them are highly explanator..."

"nash equilibria have their limitations they are definitely not that explanatory in many situations they're not what you really want um there's other kind of equilibria and there's names associated wit..."

"you know data analysis context is that yeah even the game of poker is fascinating space whenever there's any uncertainty your lack of information is it's a super exciting space yeah uh just uh lingard..."

"this those will change in 10 years it will not be exactly those surfaces there'll be some others that are and optimization theory will help contribute to why other surfaces are why other algorithms la..."

"um so uh that that i can't really anticipate that co-evolution process but you know gradients are amazing uh mathematical objects um they uh have a lot of people who uh start to study them more deeply..."

"still very very important um now we know that just providing descent has got all kinds of problems it gets stuck in many ways and it hadn't have you know good dimension dependence and so on so um my o..."

"to work in the field is that you get to try to understand this mathematics and um but long story short you know partly empirically it was discovered stochastic gradient is very effective and theory ki..."

"not clear yet because what one of our case score is a lower bound that's that's probably the best you can do what gradient is one over k but is there something better and so i think as a surprise to m..."

"around can you try to maybe i think i don't even want to try um let me just say a colleague at steve steven stickler at university of chicago wrote a really beautiful paper on james stein estimation w..."

"field can you define beijing and frequencies yeah in decision theory you can make i have a like i have a video that people could see it's called are you a bayesian or a frequentist and kind of help tr..."

"out there and people are using all kinds of data sets you want to have a stamp a guarantee on it that as people run it on many many data sets that you never even thought about that 95 of the time it w..."

"all right and i do agree with that especially in situations where you're working with a scientist you can learn a lot about the domain and you really only focus on certain kinds of data and you've gat..."

"approval under certain assumptions this thing will work so perhaps you asked question what's my favorite you know or what's the most surprising nice idea so one that is more accessible is something ca..."

"argument has come out it's not certainly mine but it it sort of came out from robin's around 1960. uh brad ephron has written beautifully about this in various papers and books and uh and the fdr is y..."

"at least an expert at this point you know a psychologist aims to understand human intelligence right and i think many psychologists i know are fairly humble about this they they might try and understa..."

"of decisions looking at it from far enough away it's just like a collection of neurons everyone every neuron is making its own little decisions presumably in some way and if you step back enough every..."

"first challenges and dangers and real things to build and all that um such that uh you know uh spending too much time on science fiction at least in public fora like this i think is is not what we sho..."

"some of the brightest sort of some of the seminal figures in the field can you uh give advice to people who undergraduates today what does it take to take you know advice on their journey if they're i..."

"where and how and why did you learn french and which language is more beautiful english or french um great question so um first of all i think italian's actually more beautiful than french and english..."

"that i think i've said in some interview at some point that if i had you know millions of dollars on the infinite time whatever what would you really work on if you really wanted to do ai and for me t..."