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It was a great pleasure speaking with Tyler Cowen for the 3rd time. We discussed how Hayek, Keynes, Smith, and other great economists help us make sense of AI, growth, risk, human nature, anarchy, central planning, and much more. The topics covered in this episode are too many to summarize. Hope you enjoy! 𝐄𝐏𝐈𝐒𝐎𝐃𝐄 𝐋𝐈𝐍𝐊𝐒 * Transcript: https://www.dwarkeshpatel.com/p/tyler-cowen-3 * Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tyler-cowen-hayek-keynes-smith-on-ai-animal-spirits/id1516093381?i=1000643676389 * Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/7cpOpwBCzIEsjcSxu7IeQQ?si=8CjC-T0GQayMvYWXtSkqXA * Follow me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/dwarkesh_sp 𝐓𝐈𝐌𝐄𝐒𝐓𝐀𝐌𝐏𝐒 00:00:00 - John Maynard Keynes 00:17:16 - Controversy 00:25:02 - Friedrich von Hayek 00:47:41 - John Stuart Mill 00:52:41 - Adam Smith 00:58:31 - Coase, Schelling, & George 01:08:07 - Anarchy 01:13:16 - Cheap WMDs 01:23:18 - Technocracy & political philosophy 01:34:16 - AI & Scaling
Tyler Cowen discusses John Maynard Keynes' multifaceted identity as an economist, mathematician, historian, and philosopher. He reflects on Keynes' assertion that a master economist must encompass a rare combination of skills and how this applies to both Keynes and Cowen himself. This segment explores the significance of Keynes' contributions and the breadth of his achievements.
"This is a fun book to read because you mentioned in there what the original sources to read are. It’s like the Harold Bloom of economics, right? It’s a book written for smart people. Okay, so le..."
In this segment, Cowen delves into Keynes' views on investment, highlighting the irrational nature of many investments throughout history. He references Adam Smith's insights on overly optimistic projectors and discusses the skewed returns on private investments, emphasizing the complexities of human behavior in economic decision-making.
"list again? Am I a statesman? Did I play a role at the Treaty of Versailles or something comparable? I don’t know. We’re in Washington. I’m sure you talk to all the people who matter quite a bit..."
Cowen examines the role of innovators in the economy, referencing Alex Tabarrok's ideas on how entrepreneurs often do not internalize the societal gains they create. He discusses the distinction between those who take risks without realistic prospects and those who genuinely innovate, questioning the social returns of various entrepreneurial efforts.
"has most investment been selfishly irrational? Well, Adam Smith was the first one I know to have made this point, that projectors, I think he called them, are overly optimistic. So people who do..."
This segment focuses on the challenges of estimating the social returns of innovation and entrepreneurship. Cowen uses Picasso as an example to illustrate the difficulty in quantifying the impact of creative individuals compared to their direct income, raising questions about the accuracy of commonly cited figures regarding returns on investment.
"than it’s selfishly good for us. That was Reuven Brenner’s claim in some of his books on risk. Again, I think you have to distinguish between different parts of the distribution. So it seems the..."
Cowen discusses Keynes' perspective on long-term investment, emphasizing the difficulties of making genuine long-term predictions in a speculative market. He contrasts Keynes' views with modern interpretations of market efficiency and the challenges faced by investors in today's economic landscape.
"it could be 6%. How different do you think it is in art versus, I don’t know, entrepreneurship versus different kinds of entrepreneurship? There are different industries there as well, right? I’..."
In this segment, Cowen analyzes Keynes' assertion that as markets mature, they become more speculative. He discusses the implications of this for modern finance, questioning whether the current size of the financial sector is justified and how it relates to wealth management rather than GDP.
"could be a short-run speculator and in fact beat the markets. And he believed that he did so, and at least he did for some periods of his life. That may have been luck, or maybe he did have specia..."
Cowen explores the concept of 'animal spirits' as described by Keynes, discussing how human behavior often defies traditional notions of risk aversion. He introduces Milton Friedman's insights on context-dependent risk behavior, illustrating how individuals can simultaneously engage in both risk-averse and risk-seeking activities.
"even though there must be share price data of some sort. At what frequency? Well, is it once a day? Is it once a week? We don’t have the sort of data we have now where you can just test anything y..."
This segment examines the role of overconfidence in trading and investment behavior. Cowen discusses how overconfidence can lead to excessive trading, questioning whether this is beneficial or detrimental from a social perspective, and how it relates to the temperament of investors.
"markets get more mature, more and more of equities are held basically by passive investors, people who don’t have a direct hand in the involvement of the enterprise, and the share of the market th..."
Cowen addresses the growth of the financial sector relative to GDP and wealth, arguing that the financial sector's size is not inherently negative. He emphasizes the importance of understanding the financial sector's role in managing wealth rather than merely its impact on GDP.
"from a social point of view, maybe you can only have too much trading or too little trading, and you might rather have too much trading. Explain that. Why can it only be too much or too little? ..."
In this segment, Cowen discusses the concept of contextual risk management, suggesting that individuals engage in risk-taking behaviors for entertainment or mood management. He reflects on his own experiences with risk in writing and entrepreneurship, illustrating the complexities of risk behavior.
"Think of it in terms of wealth. I see. So one way to think about it is like the management cost as a fraction of the assets under management or something. And that’s right. In that case, 2% is n..."
Cowen reflects on how to evaluate the contributions of intellectuals, particularly in economics. He discusses the importance of weighing both their successes and failures, using Hayek and Keynes as examples to illustrate how their broader body of work informs their legacy.
"you busy and it helps you follow analytics, and you read about the games online, and maybe that’s efficient mood management, and that’s the way to think about risk behavior. I don’t bet, by the ..."
This segment explores the relationship between the volume of work produced by intellectuals and their impact. Cowen argues that for great thinkers like John Stuart Mill, extensive writing across various topics contributes to their depth of understanding and ability to see multiple perspectives.
"some of them don’t pay off. Should we just be looking at their top contributions and just disregard everything else? For Hayek, I think one of the points you have against him is that his top thr..."
Cowen discusses the social tolerance of intellectuals like Keynes in early 20th-century Britain, contrasting it with the experiences of others like Alan Turing. He reflects on the selective nature of societal acceptance and the factors that determine who is tolerated or punished for their deviance.
"of it’s quite interesting, but his ability to see things from multiple perspectives, I think, was in part stemming from the fact that he wrote a lot about many different topics, like French histor..."
In this concluding segment, Cowen considers the long-term impact of controversial intellectuals on society. He discusses how their contributions to discourse can outweigh their specific errors, while also pondering the potential consequences of future societal challenges on the status of secular thinkers.
"a very good book on it. Yeah, I guess it’s similar to our time. Right. We have certain taboos and you can get away with. Yeah, they say whatever on Twitter and. Other people get cancelled, actua..."
Cowen highlights Friedrich Hayek's career, particularly his seminal work 'The Road to Serfdom,' written during the rise of collectivism in the 1940s. He discusses how Hayek's predictions about collectivism have not fully materialized, suggesting that while Hayek may have been overly pessimistic in his later years, his insights remain relevant in today's discussions about economic systems.
"no matter what. And that means the Hawks would gain in status. And those worried about fertility and whatever technology drives the new wars, if that is what happens. Let’s say it’s drones. It’s ..."
In this segment, Cowen delves into Hayek's views on human nature, particularly the atavistic instincts that may lead to collectivism. He questions whether Hayek's concerns about envy and resentment have been validated by contemporary societal trends, such as the rise of wokeness, while also noting that these issues may not be as dire as Hayek predicted.
"actual views, I think his career is a tremendous white pill in the sense that he writes The Road to Serfdom in 1944 when Nazi Germany and Soviet Union are both prominent players. And honestly, t..."
Cowen discusses the tension between central planning and market dynamics, using examples from large tech firms like Amazon and Uber. He argues that while these companies exhibit elements of central planning, they ultimately operate within market constraints, challenging the notion that central planning can be effective in the long run.
"say he’s been proven wrong, but a lot of the west has had a pretty good run since then and there’s not major evidence that he’s correct. The bad events we’ve seen, like some war coming back, som..."
In this segment, Cowen critiques common misinterpretations of large firms from both political perspectives. He argues that firms are not isolated entities but are deeply integrated into market dynamics, which complicates the debate over the role of government in economic planning and production.
"fundamental and harder to fix. Let’s talk about Hayek’s arguments. So obviously he has a famous argument about decentralization. But when we look at companies like Amazon, Uber, these other big ..."
Cowen analyzes the growth of the Soviet Union, attributing much of its success to post-war rebuilding and urbanization rather than effective central planning. He contrasts this with the later stages of the Soviet economy, which he describes as decentralized and plagued by poor incentives.
"and the right. Wait. But under this argument, it still adds to the credence of the people who argue that basically we need the government to control. Because if it is the case that the Soviet Un..."
In this insightful segment, Cowen emphasizes the role of urbanization in driving economic growth, both in the Soviet Union and contemporary China. He argues that moving individuals from rural to urban settings significantly boosts productivity, a factor often overlooked in discussions about economic systems.
"the Soviet Union, after the revolution, which did totally fail and were abandoned pretty quickly, even by Lenin. Would you count the ‘50s period in the Soviet Union as more centrally planned or ..."
Cowen discusses the complex relationship between government and market dynamics, suggesting that government-directed production can sometimes function effectively within market frameworks. He highlights the importance of context in evaluating the role of government in economic activities.
"but that at some point more or less ends as it has. Well, it hasn’t quite ended with China, but it’s certainly slowed down and people don’t pay enough attention to that. I don’t know why. It now ..."
In this segment, Cowen reflects on Hayek's argument regarding the challenges of aggregating information for central planners. He contrasts this with the market's ability to adapt and respond to changing conditions, emphasizing that markets operate effectively without needing to achieve a general equilibrium.
"bureaucracy that’s terrible, doesn’t have a big market check. But very often, governments act through markets and have to contract or hire consultants or hire outside parties. And it’s more like..."
Cowen elaborates on Hayek's insights about market adaptability, arguing that markets are not focused on achieving a perfect equilibrium but rather on sustaining operations day-to-day. He suggests that this adaptability is a key strength of market systems.
"just building a sustainable structure. And a lot of it isn’t sustainable, like the fools who start these new small businesses. But they do pretty quickly disappear, and that’s part of the market ..."
In this segment, Cowen discusses Hayek's concept of competition as a discovery process, linking it to the importance of innovation and research in markets. He draws parallels to Peter Thiel's ideas about monopolies fostering innovation, highlighting the dynamic nature of competitive markets.
"That monopoly is when you have interesting things happen because when there’s just competitive equilibrium, there’s no profits to invest in R&D or to do cool new things. Do those seem like relat..."
Cowen critiques Hayek's views on scientism, arguing that while it can be beneficial, it is often misapplied. He discusses the reliance on scientific principles in various fields, including economics, and the potential pitfalls of over-reliance on statistical aggregates.
"transparency, are not per se good. You want enough of them in the right places, but you need some kind of balance. So I think supply chains are no longer an underanalyzed problem, but until Covi..."
Cowen explores the implications of AI agents operating within decentralized systems, predicting that they will develop their own markets and currencies. He suggests that this evolution aligns with Hayek's theories on decentralized order and economic systems.
"of AI agents as they get more powerful? You have some market between the AI agents. There’s some sort of decentralized order as a result. What insights would you have about that? Well, a lot of ..."
In this segment, Cowen discusses the potential for AI agents to create separate infrastructures for their interactions, leading to a bifurcation in productivity between humans and AI. He speculates on how this separation might affect future economic interactions and the efficiency of task delegation.
"want property rights in a so-called imaginary world, that’s where you would start with Bitcoin and NFTs. So I don’t know what percent of GDP this will be at first. It will be quite small, but it ..."
Cowen reflects on the future evolution of AI models, questioning the assumptions surrounding their intelligence and capabilities. He emphasizes the need for a nuanced understanding of AI development and its implications for human productivity and economic systems.
"for dealing with humans will fall because you’ll deal with their quote-unquote assistants, right? So you’ll only deal with the difficult human when you need to. And people who are very effective ..."
In this concluding segment, Cowen discusses the potential for decentralized AI networks to harness tacit knowledge, predicting that these systems will be highly productive. He calls for a re-evaluation of how we understand knowledge in the context of AI and its future role in society.
"assumptions there. It could be the real advantages are integrating it into workflows by things that are not better GPTs at all. And once you get to a GPT, say 5.5, I’m not sure you can just turn u..."
Cowen speculates on Hayek's perspective on prediction markets, suggesting that he would view them as valuable tools for aggregating information through prices. This segment ties back to Hayek's broader arguments about the efficiency of market systems in conveying information.
"they’re still going to face bottlenecks. Right. And I don’t know how good they’ll be at overcoming the behavioral bottlenecks of actual human beings, the bottlenecks of the law and regulation. And..."
Cowen examines Hayek's potential views on prediction markets, discussing their historical context and relevance. He highlights how prediction markets serve as a mechanism for aggregating information through prices, while also noting the complexities involved in understanding market dynamics beyond simple price indicators.
"single dial, I think you can argue that either way. So people in markets, they also observe quantities, they observe reaction speeds. There’s a lot of dimensions to prices other than just, oh, t..."
In this segment, Cowen explores the median age of corporations and their capacity for improvement over time. He contrasts older firms, particularly in Japan and Denmark, with the younger firms prevalent in the US, questioning the factors that contribute to the longevity and success of certain companies.
"aren’t ones that have been improving over time. If you look at the biggest companies by market cap, it’s not like this is what it takes to get there is hundreds of years of continual refinement. ..."
Cowen discusses the concept of NIMBYism (Not In My Backyard) in the context of democratic societies. He reflects on historical examples of resistance to urban planning and change, suggesting that interest groups and public opinion often hinder necessary developments, a phenomenon that persists across different political systems.
"right? Like in, you know, take China is pretty much entirely new firms because of communism. Japan, in particular, seems to have a lot of very old firms. I don’t know if they’re getting better, ..."
Cowen delves into the relationship between economics and human nature, referencing Gordon Tullock's work on ant societies. He posits that economic principles may be more universal than previously thought, suggesting that many economic behaviors could apply to non-human entities like AIs, challenging traditional views on human-centric economics.
"Interest groups always matter. Public opinion. Ala David Hume always matters. And it’s easy to not do anything on a given day. Right. And that just keeps on sliding into the. Guess. India has had ..."
In this segment, Cowen analyzes how firms utilize profit and loss as critical feedback mechanisms for decision-making. He emphasizes the importance of selection processes in driving productivity gains, suggesting that the evolutionary dynamics within firms may play a more significant role than individual human ingenuity.
"to suggest. Maybe that is a bit of a knock on some behavioral economics, the logic of the system. Armin Alchian wrote on this. Gary Becker wrote on this. There were some debates on this in the e..."
Cowen reflects on John Stuart Mill's arguments regarding the treatment of women and children. He draws parallels between historical oppression and contemporary societal structures, advocating for improved treatment of children while acknowledging Mill's progressive stance on women's rights.
"Hayek presumably read those pieces in the. Don’t think he ever commented on them. Interesting. Let’s talk about Mill. Right, not James Mill, but he was interesting, too. So his arguments about t..."
Cowen discusses the impact of one-on-one tutoring on intellectual development, referencing Mill's upbringing. He considers the implications of personalized education on the potential for greatness, while questioning the extent to which such educational practices contribute to individual success.
"the greater thinker of the two. But on the topic of children, what would Mill say, specifically? I guess he could have talked about it if he wanted to, but I don’t know if he was. In today’s world..."
In this segment, Cowen evaluates the quality of political leadership in contemporary society compared to Mill's time. He reflects on the potential for moral progress and the challenges of electing capable leaders, suggesting that while improvements have been made, there are still significant barriers to achieving high-quality governance.
"tutors. You talk in the book about how Mill is very concerned about the quality and the character development of the population. But when we think about the fact that somebody like him was elected..."
Cowen highlights Adam Smith's groundbreaking work in economics, particularly in the context of historical growth rates. He discusses Smith's ability to infer potential economic growth from limited historical data, emphasizing the significance of Smith's insights on division of labor and market mechanisms.
"he publishes in 1776, The Wealth of Nations. And basically, around that time, Gibbon publishes the decline and fall of the Roman Empire. Yep. So he publishes The Decline and Fall of the Roman Em..."
Cowen speculates on how Adam Smith might perceive the potential for economic growth in an AI-driven economy. He discusses the implications of AI on growth rates and the challenges posed by human and legal bottlenecks, questioning whether sustained high growth is feasible in the long term.
"would just shock him and bowl him over. But Smith does also emphasize different human bottlenecks and constraints of the law. So it’s quite possible Smith would see those bottlenecks as mattering ..."
In this segment, Cowen critiques the validity of historical economic comparisons, particularly regarding GDP estimates from the Roman Empire. He emphasizes the importance of qualitative changes over quantitative measures, arguing that understanding economic progress requires a nuanced approach to historical context.
"think about it reflects the changes. Ambiguities when you read the contemporaries of Smith. Other economists who were writing at the time, were his arguments just clearly, given the evidence of ..."
Cowen concludes by reflecting on the contributions of various economic thinkers, including Henry George. He discusses the relevance of their ideas in contemporary discussions about land, labor, and capital, highlighting the enduring impact of their work on modern economic thought.
"I think. And for people who are interested, they might enjoy the episode I did with Lars Doucet, who, oh, I don’t know about this. He’s a Georgist. Oh yeah. He’s a really smart guy. Basically, h..."
Cowen discusses Thomas Schelling's contributions to game theory and its application in economics. He recognizes Schelling as a top-tier economist but questions whether he qualifies as the greatest of all time, emphasizing the importance of making complex theories accessible.
"for sure. You have a fun quote in the book on Arrow where you say his work was Nobel Prize winning important, but not important important. Well, some parts of it were important important like ho..."
Cowen reflects on the evolution of economic thought and the emergence of new disciplines, particularly in the context of internet writing. He argues that the method of writing and thinking in economics is changing, with a shift towards multidisciplinary approaches.
"it will be something AI-related. Yeah, that sounds about right to me. But within the context of Internet writing, obviously, there are many disciplines there, economics being a prominent one whe..."
In this segment, Cowen discusses how the internet has transformed the landscape of economic thought and writing. He emphasizes the importance of internet-based discourse in shaping new ideas and fostering innovation in economics.
"this particular sphere, not for everything. Scott Aronson was my professor in college for a couple. Yeah, yeah. That’s where I decided I’m not going to go to grad school because you just see like ..."
Cowen explores the idea of government subsidizing savings to encourage long-term financial stability. He discusses the challenges and potential pitfalls of such a policy, particularly regarding wealth distribution and political feasibility.
"five-level stuff, but somebody with your sort of polymathic understanding of different fields, if you just extrapolate out these trends, it seems like you might have a lot of interesting thought..."
Cowen examines the historical decline in interest rates over centuries and the factors contributing to this trend. He raises questions about the underlying explanations and the implications for economic theory.
"principle, I would be for it if we could do it in a proper, targeted manner. Although you had a good argument against this in “Stubborn Attachments,” right? That over the long term, if economic gr..."
Cowen discusses the dynamics of anarchy in relation to network industries and social media. He analyzes the potential for cartel-like behavior and the implications for competition and regulation in these sectors.
"actually explain as a percent of the variance? I don’t know. Let’s talk about anarchy. You have first written about this; I hadn’t read the last time we talked, and it’s really interesting. So m..."
In this segment, Cowen speculates on the future of Web 3.0 and its relationship with anarchy. He discusses the potential for centralization and decentralization within crypto systems and the implications for governance.
"out of the payment system. That strikes me as a real issue. Do your arguments against anarchy, do they apply at all to web 3.0 crypto-like stuff? Do I think it will evolve into collusion? I don’t ..."
Cowen addresses the concept of anarchy in international relations, discussing how nations interact without a central authority. He reflects on the implications of this dynamic for global governance and cooperation.
"everywhere. So within government, the feds, the state governments, all the different layers of federalism, there’s a kind of anarchy. There’s not quite a final layer of adjudication, the way you..."
Cowen contemplates the risks associated with advancements in intelligence and technology. He discusses the potential consequences of cheap energy and destructive capabilities, framing it as a gamble for the future of civilization.
"ineffective weapons, but they had a kind of stability. You can’t just dismiss them and you can debate how governmental were they? But the ambiguity of those debates is part of the point that eve..."
In this concluding segment, Cowen discusses the role of government in AI development and the potential risks of centralized control. He emphasizes the importance of maintaining a balance between innovation and regulation in the context of national security.
"you’d better do a good job. I mean, we should frame our broader history more like that, and it has implications for how you think about x-risk. Again, I think of the x-risk people, a bit of them..."
The conversation shifts to national security and the government's response to powerful AI labs. The speakers speculate on the likelihood of government intervention, drawing parallels to past incidents in the tech industry. They discuss the political will required for regulation and the patterns of overreaction following significant events, emphasizing the need for a proactive approach to AI governance.
"when people talk about national security. I’ve never seen the AI doomers say anything that made sense. And I recall those early days. Remember China issued that edict where they said, we’re only..."
In this segment, the speakers explore Robert Nozick's thoughts on AI and the ethical implications of advanced intelligence. They discuss Nozick's concerns about how superior beings, whether AI or aliens, might treat humanity. The conversation touches on the philosophical implications of AI risk and the moral responsibilities humans have towards other sentient beings.
"of that pattern. How would Robert Nozick think about different AI utopias? Well, I think he did think about different AI utopias. Right? So I believe whether he wrote or talked about it, but the..."
The discussion transitions to the philosophical question of how we should regard the wishes of past generations. The speakers debate the consistency of various philosophical views on honoring ancestors and the implications for AI alignment. They explore the complexities of respecting historical preferences while considering future generations' needs.
"we should be vegetarians. That was his argument. At least he felt he should be. I wonder if we should honor past generations more, or at least respect their wishes more. For if we think of the a..."
This segment examines the stability of the U.S. dollar compared to other currencies, particularly in the context of Argentina's economic challenges. The speakers analyze the reasons behind recurring hyperinflation in certain countries and the effectiveness of U.S. monetary policy. They discuss the role of public sentiment towards inflation and the implications for economic management.
"and then we’ll somewhat rationalize it, ex post. Yeah. There’s an interesting book about the ancient, ancient Greeks. What is it called? I forgot the name. But it talks about the hearths that th..."
The conversation focuses on the competence of U.S. institutions like the Federal Reserve and the Supreme Court. The speakers discuss the reasons behind their effective management and the incentives that drive their performance. They highlight the importance of civic virtue and the reputation of these institutions in maintaining public trust.
"hard to explain why some of these countries, but not others, go crazy with the printing press. And this is maybe a broader question about different institutions in the government where I don’t u..."
In this segment, the speakers reflect on the evolution of economic thought and express concerns about the current state of economics. They discuss the division of labor and specialization in research, contrasting past thinkers' broad inquiries with today's focus on narrow questions. The conversation raises questions about the future of interdisciplinary thinking in economics.
"trade-off. Does that seem like a fair comparison? I think that’s correct. And I would add that, say, in the time of Smith, there was nothing you could do rigorously. So there was no other option. ..."
The discussion shifts to the challenges of scaling AI and the potential barriers to further advancements. The speakers consider the implications of reaching the limits of human understanding and the complexities of integrating various scientific theories. They debate the future productivity of researchers and the impact of global talent on innovation.
"it better than you or I do, though it might, but simply that people prefer to read what the AIs generate for ten or 20 years. And it’s harder to get an audience because playing with the AIs is a..."
In this final segment, the speakers analyze market predictions in light of geopolitical risks and technological advancements. They discuss the implications of nuclear proliferation and the stability of asset prices. The conversation concludes with reflections on the rationality of market behavior and the potential for future economic challenges.
"is often wrong. What’s your sense on the scaling stuff? When you look at the arguments in terms of what’s coming, how do you react to that? Well, your piece on that was great. I don’t feel I have ..."
Cowen speculates on the potential impact of AI on economic growth, suggesting that while AI may not be as revolutionary as some optimists believe, it will still contribute to productivity gains. He emphasizes the importance of the quality of AI systems and their integration into existing structures, rather than merely increasing the quantity of AI instances.
"finally, it’s paying off. But I’m not sure AI will be as revolutionary as the other AI optimists believe. I do think it will raise productivity growth in ways which are visible. To what extent? ..."
In this thought-provoking segment, Cowen draws parallels between the impact of AI and historical instances of innovation, such as the contributions of a small population to significant achievements. He reflects on the pace of change in the 20th century and predicts a return to similar rates of transformation, albeit with potential chaos and disruption along the way.
"think about Jews in the 20th century, 2% of the population or less than that, and 20% of the Nobel Prizes, it does seem like you can have a much bigger impact than if you’re on the very tail if ..."
Cowen discusses the importance of decentralization in managing the risks associated with AI and other technologies. He contrasts his perspective with more pessimistic views, emphasizing that safety cannot simply be legislated and that historical hegemons have played a role in ensuring relative safety. This segment delves into the complexities of governance in a decentralized world.
"I forget the name of the philosopher you asked this to, but the feminist philosopher you asked the question. Amiya Srinivasan, you asked the question, what would have to be different for you to ..."
In the closing moments of the podcast, Cowen shares insights about his upcoming book titled 'The Marginal Revolution.' He discusses his approach to writing shorter, more focused works and the relevance of context in the age of AI. This segment wraps up the conversation with reflections on the future of writing and knowledge dissemination.
"What’s the next book? I’m already writing it. Part of it is on Jevons, but the title is The Marginal Revolution. But not about the blog, about the actual marginal. But it’s maybe a monograph, li..."