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Sign Up for "Writing Examples" and Learn From The Best Writing of All Time: https://www.writingexamples.com Tiago grew up reading in Barnes and Noble — up to six hours at a time! Now, his bestselling book, Building a Second Brain, is the perfect combination of his favorite genres: self-development, business, and tech. Come learn how Tiago has helped thousands of people unlock their creative potential. SPEAKER LINKS: Website: https://fortelabs.com/ Blog: https://fortelabs.com/blog/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/fortelabs YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TiagoForte Book: https://www.buildingasecondbrain.com/book WRITE OF PASSAGE: Want to learn more about the next class for Write of Passage? Click here: https://writeofpassage.school TIMESTAMPS: 00:00:00 Introduction 00:02:15 "Building A Second Brain" 00:03:35 Value of Writing retreats 00:05:55 Art & writing 00:09:30 Quality vs quantity 00:11:00 How to get over writers block 00:11:45 Twitter / X 00:12:35 Editing process 00:15:45 Taylor Swift 00:17:00 "The Godfather" 00:19:00 How to get feedback 00:19:55 Finding a mentor (like Venkatesh Rao) 00:23:30 Tiago's Top 5 intellectual move 00:27:00 Compression vs Context 00:32:15 Value of book summaries 00:35:20 Toyota manufacturing process 00:37:30 Creative process 00:40:50 Creating "The PARA Method" 00:44:10 Becoming an Author & YouTuber 00:46:00 Tiago's biggest weakness 00:48:50 Writing annual reviews 00:52:25 Why do you have to curate 00:53:50 The surprises of book publishing 00:56:15 Easy mediums for writing 00:57:30 Building "Write of Passage" PODCAST LINKS: Website: https://writeofpassage.school/how-i-write/ Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-write/id1700171470 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2DjMSboniFAeGA8v9NpoPv ABOUT THE HOST: I’m David Perell and I’m a writer, teacher, and podcaster. I believe writing online is one of the biggest opportunities in the world today. For the first time in human history, everybody can freely share their ideas with a global audience. I seek to help as many people publish their writing online as possible. How I Write is a podcast by Write of Passage // Production by Adam Soccolich
Tiago Forte discusses the importance of having a 'second brain' for effective writing. He shares how his preparation for the podcast was enhanced by years of saving notes and insights, showcasing the value of compiling knowledge for creative processes.
"The writing is just getting something down. The editing is where all the work comes in. What was your editing process like? I had a rule that I would not put anything in the book that had not bee..."
Tiago recounts his childhood experiences of spending hours at Barnes & Noble, transitioning from the local library to a place where he could access the latest books. This environment fostered his love for reading and learning about business, technology, and self-development.
"And you went back to that store when Building a Second Brain, the book came out, right? Yes. I felt like as you were writing Building a Second Brain, especially towards the end, that book almost ..."
Tiago reflects on the difficulties of writing 'Building a Second Brain,' explaining how the complexity of context and feedback made the process daunting. He emphasizes the mental load required to write effectively and the importance of writing retreats.
"I did three, four, or five day full writing retreats, which were crucial for that reason. So here's the other thing that happens is, if I had a morning call, it just killed me. Because let's say..."
Tiago shares his experiences with writing retreats, describing how they allowed him to enter a deep state of flow. He highlights the importance of environment and accountability in enhancing productivity during these focused writing sessions.
"many ways. He's a painter. He does large-scale canvases or paper, everything from figures to still lives, to landscapes, to even abstract. Has been a painter his entire life, since he was five y..."
Exploring the relationship between quality and quantity in writing, Tiago discusses how his father's artistic process taught him that producing more can enhance the quality of work. He emphasizes the importance of switching between modes of creation to overcome creative blocks.
""The first lesson is that quantity and quality are not opposing forces. You don't have to sacrifice one to get more or the other. One can be used to enhance the other, like two sides of a coin." ..."
Tiago explains his strategies for overcoming writer's block, including switching to a focus on quantity when he senses a slowdown in creativity. He shares how this approach allows him to generate new ideas and insights.
"don't bother getting bogged down in whatever you want to call it, writer's block or creative block. When I sense that I'm even starting to get stuck... That's the thing, you can switch tracks wh..."
Discussing the editing process for his book, Tiago highlights the challenges of refining a manuscript. He explains how editing requires multiple passes, each focused on different aspects, to ensure clarity and accessibility for a broader audience.
"What was your editing process like for that book? The editing process was many, many, many passes. By you, by other people? I remember I reviewed an early copy, so there were a bunch of us that di..."
Tiago draws parallels between his writing process and Taylor Swift's creative approach. He discusses how her methods of capturing ideas and expanding stories can resonate with a wider audience, illustrating the importance of relatability in writing.
"more people? I remember sending you this YouTube video about Taylor Swift and her creative process. That's right. And that shows up here. Yeah. In an interview about how she wrote the smash hit, ..."
Tiago emphasizes the significance of feedback in the writing process. He shares how receiving input from others can enhance the quality of a manuscript and the iterative nature of refining ideas based on external perspectives.
"You got really into the Godfather while writing that. Yeah. Why did I get so into the Godfather? It was Coppola's notebook, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. There's a number of things that are quite interes..."
Tiago discusses the value of mentorship in writing and creativity. He reflects on his experiences with mentors like Venkatesh Rao and how their guidance has shaped his approach to writing and personal development.
"Yes, yes. That was essential. I had a rule that I would not put anything in the book that had not been tested publicly. It was too risky, it's way too risky, just like a startup would validate t..."
In this segment, Tiago shares his top five intellectual moves that have influenced his writing and thinking. He provides insights into how these strategies can help others unlock their creative potential.
"slow. To finally publish a blog post and then even if you have comments, finally see those comments, the feedback loop is very slow, whereas teaching, especially live, but even on Zoom as we know,..."
Tiago explores the concepts of compression and context in writing. He explains how understanding the balance between these elements can enhance clarity and engagement in written work.
"it in any situation, just ask, here's sort of how it works. What is the moral lens that I'm looking through? And there always is one. And when I say moral, it could be a religious morality, what ..."
Discussing the importance of book summaries, Tiago highlights how they can distill complex ideas into digestible formats. He shares his approach to summarizing books and the benefits of this practice for writers and readers alike.
"There is totally a trade-off. Yes. Such a steep trade-off, such a trade-off. Absolutely. I hope that's not a sword to the chest, but I think it's revealing. It is a sword to the chest. Every time ..."
Tiago draws lessons from Toyota's manufacturing process and applies them to writing. He discusses how efficiency and systematic approaches can improve productivity and creativity in the writing process.
"score. That is so good. You wrote another really good one, this was more of a series about the theory of constraints. But one of the things that you do is I think that you spend 10 to a hundred x ..."
In this segment, Tiago delves into the intricacies of the creative process. He shares insights on how to navigate challenges and maintain momentum while writing.
"feedback. All that stuff is just preparation. Where does your interest in the Toyota production line and manufacturing show up in the way that you think of the creative process? Yeah. I have a who..."
Tiago discusses the development of the PARA Method, a framework for organizing information and enhancing productivity. He explains how this method can help writers manage their ideas effectively.
"just generating a lot of quantity, but also vice versa. A lot of times you have to study a problem, very high quality, very subtly. Then you come up with a solution that allows you to produce a ..."
Tiago shares his journey of becoming an author and YouTuber. He reflects on the challenges and rewards of building an audience and the importance of authenticity in content creation.
"you wrote Building a Second Brain, and then you came out with this, what, 12, 18 months later? Let's see, about 14 months later. Okay. How did you think about this book from a positioning perspect..."
In this candid segment, Tiago discusses his biggest weaknesses as a writer and creator. He emphasizes the importance of self-awareness and continuous improvement in the creative journey.
"met, you were a blogger and a course creator, and now you're an entrepreneur and an author. And a YouTuber. And a YouTuber. Why do you say that so passionately? Because those two things, author an..."
Tiago explains the practice of writing annual reviews and how it contributes to personal growth and reflection. He shares tips on how to effectively document progress and insights over the year.
"It's so much more effective on YouTube. What do you think your biggest weakness is as a writer? Always approaching things from a primarily intellectual, analytical, heavy, overly thorough... This..."
Discussing the necessity of curation in writing, Tiago highlights how selecting and organizing information can enhance clarity and impact. He shares strategies for effective curation in the creative process.
"How do you think about that process? The annual review is a huge part of my life. I find that deep introspection about the fundamentals of my values, who I am, what I want for my future is not go..."
Tiago shares unexpected insights from his experience in book publishing. He discusses the challenges and surprises that authors often face during the publishing process.
"I'm forced to follow through with it. A lot of your advice to new writers is, don't worry about having your own ideas at the beginning, just be a curator. Why? Oh, gosh, because that's all you can..."
In this segment, Tiago explores various easy mediums for writing. He discusses how different formats can facilitate creativity and expression for writers.
"things like, you ran a regression analysis of what metrics correlate highest with book sales, and you found that it was number of new Amazon reviews per day that was the defining metric. Yes, yes..."
Tiago discusses the creation of 'Write of Passage,' a program designed to help aspiring writers develop their skills. He shares insights into the program's goals and impact on participants.
"Apple Notes is much easier than Evernote, which is easier than Scrivener or something like that. Yeah, yeah. I mean it's kind of, the medium is the message, which we usually think of in terms of ..."
Tiago shares insights on how his approach to work intensity has evolved, especially after becoming a parent. He discusses the importance of leveraging team dynamics over personal intensity and how he now prioritizes being present with his family while still maintaining productivity.
"Let's talk about building rite of passage. We had that weak in Mexico, and I think that one of the best things that we had working together and one of the worst things was we both had such good ..."
In a light-hearted moment, Tiago reveals how his mother misunderstood his weekly newsletter as personal emails meant only for her. This anecdote illustrates the disconnect between his public persona and family perception, adding a humorous touch to his writing journey.
"What is your writing process like now? Mostly mornings. That's another thing that's changed. I can really only write just from a physiological level for about two hours. It's like a specific two ..."