"so all of the little orange dots are active satellites all of the teal dots are dead satellites and everything that's pink or purple or gray is some form of catalog space debris we should all be very ..."

"of the a16c podcast and boy do we have a treat for you we have all three co-founders of privateer in the house that is Alex Fielding Dr Mor Baja and wait for it Steve Wozniak yes that is the Steve Woz..."

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"um Alex Fielding is really the one that brought me into Privateer he's been my best friend for a long time and he was hanging around all these space people in Maui where he lives and we're always in c..."

"there's always Alternatives so um and Alex also I've got to know him as the best judge of people what they're about what they want to do and in business development knowing how to convince others that..."

"right I got to speak to moriba and Alex yesterday both Geniuses both who really understand the importance of space long term I want to ask you about space and the perception of it or the perception of..."

"from moriba it's just you know understanding that we have to be kind of responsible all of us and I expect that that um Privateer will be very involved in Communications between different parties even..."

"talking to Alex yesterday and he told me the story about you from the very very early days where when you were younger you basically told your dad Hey Dad I want to have a computer someday and he said..."

"that you're speaking facts and knowledge from your mouth knowledge with less importance than the motivation of my students to learn had to find ways to make it fun to make it understandable to make it..."

"um started a little company with some people I even I funded into that he's a friend and actually we did a launch of a rocket from out at Sea from somewhere so I don't know there were a bunch of Rocke..."

"important and you have an inventor who could be given a job and they've gone through all the the right they have the right skill sets and they've gone through the right University you know majors and ..."

"were just out of passion creating these computers could you see the path to today of course you can't picture everything with so many advancements since those early days but like how far along were yo..."

"we started Apple you know we had a great product it was going to be all the revenues of Apple for the first 10 years but we had such a we had a great lead and we were comfortable we could do what we w..."

"that was the first time oh my gosh up till then our company valuation was the same as the old Apple two days and then all of a sudden we sold it to everyone in the world and our sales doubled and our ..."

"it's not it's not as much a it's not as much of a gamble but you know the real real inventors like to gamble like to prove the world that they can do more than you ever imagined definitely well it's i..."

"been really hard to pin down because I'm kind of for change but I've I don't invest I don't even invest in crypto I don't invest in stocks you know I uh I made a lot of money on crypto but only becaus..."

"real trueness it's only instead of starting the year on something called January 1 back when um you know months were named by the four the Romans they didn't and with Roman numerals they couldn't give..."

"orbit is a finite resource and it's important for us to take care of so thank you for your work there thank you for everything you did with modern Computing as well as I mentioned because it's complet..."

"talked to Alex about yesterday is the fact that many people don't even have the terminology or the imagery for what's up there right um and and therefore it's it's hard for people to care about that b..."

"them informed all right Alex morba thanks for taking the time welcome to the show aloha aloha yeah thank you yeah we've got Alex calling in from Maui more about where are you calling in from Austin Te..."

"satellites on very specific orbital highways they're very close to Earth in fact where are you right now Steph I am in Encinitas California so I'm closer to low earth orbit than I am to you and I thin..."

"wayfinder we're just like a click away from people seeing all these dots you know all around the earth I know you originally created something called astrograph and I heard you say on an interview tha..."

"this is ridiculous how is that how is it okay for like 96 of the stuff that we put in space to turn out to be garbage like we don't see that in other domains we don't we don't have as acceptable okay ..."

"because the little pieces of debris the things you can't see can really hurt you in space you wouldn't get on a passenger jet if you got told when you boarded the plane there's a million little bullet..."

"there in space I mean there's a lot of collisions right and there's some that we actually can see and we can clearly identify that was caused by debris or or even in the case of a satellite hitting an..."

"and yet we keep launching more and more things without solving those right and yeah that that seems extremely important in terms of if we do want to clean up the debris in space who is responsible for..."

"think the thing that really needs to happen uh stuff is transparency if people know that they're being watched and that the evidence is being brought to the Public Square that might be a deterrent it ..."

"going to be launched into space I hear you that there is some sort of compliance where they need the regulatory bodies to enable that but how do we see the amount of stuff whether it's from government..."

"exhausted yeah I mean one of the things that we're actually working on is trying to develop something that we call orbital carrying capacity so just like there's a carrying capacity to a plot of land ..."

"amount of undesirable outcomes occur now this is this is one of those areas where um to put this in perspective if you took a shell of the earth and you said from like 250 kilometers to a thousand kil..."

"are the things that we depend on every single day on Earth even potentially that we're depending on on this call that rely on space and maybe also how much redundancy is there so if we were to use GPS..."

"hydrology and agriculture Wars in Ukraine that sort of stuff yeah I mean when when was and I started wheels of Zeus 22 years ago which tells you how old I am there's dust coming off me this is actuall..."

"very crazy so it sounds like we have a bunch of compounding effects there's a lot of stuff already in space a lot of space debris some of it we can't track because it's so small there's going to be an..."

"data how are you actually convincing a magnitude of parties to contribute to that database it's it's more Mutual benefit than it is quid pro quo because what we're basically saying is contribution res..."

"you on this idea of undoing the damage so excuse my lack of knowledge in this domain but is what Privateer is doing something that just mitigates future risk or harm or how do you actually undo some o..."

"and we want to be able to provide actionable accurate precise information to people all along that to facilitate and pretty much motivate the development of a real circular economy in space so absolut..."

"know all this other stuff but then it's like okay if if it's close to me it has a grappling arm is it going to try to purposely harm me that that's the intent piece and there is no sensor that measure..."

"that's the other thing is that because the intent piece is so ambiguous people are using Prejudice to just get rid of that uncertainty and they're saying hey if if the opportunity and the capability i..."

"infer on that sort of stuff if everyone wanted to share in space and wanted to do what we were doing we wouldn't have to launch any of our own satellites we could just ask them why don't you just give..."

"remember when you you put out the personal user manual oh I love that thanks and and that was that was a beautiful like transparent no one has to guess what your own self-intent is because you publish..."

"well I mean um so it reminds me of what we see everywhere in communities what's happened with content When Things become democratized the original people who were in that space were just so dedicated ..."

"these things this is all to say that you know I've met people in very rural areas where the way that they have solved problems and created knowledge for their own group their own tribe these sorts of ..."

"would that be well more of it actually hit it right on the head it's it's a lack of empathy because apathy is really the enemy of empathy and we have created an environment in space where people reall..."

"know how but I guess it does uh and that means it's only for them but the problem is people have not yet realized that space will be likely to govern their actions if we don't actually participate so ..."

"we don't I don't think if you talk to four or five companies that are in the SSA bucket and you ask them who's your competitors we're actually all friends right um it's it's a much more inclusive envi..."

"needs to be open and accessible that's the thing that was missing from going from the ocean to the Stars you know you can build a boat in your backyard and toss it on the ocean if you want right we al..."

"around this idea of empathy cooperation Etc I would push back a little bit or I want to hear your reaction to this which is that there have been many other endeavors let's just use again like Land Air..."

"come down to enforcement I mean unfortunately there there is the carrot which is we all get to participate together and I'm a big believer that that carrot and that that reward and that incentive is r..."

"it's societal it's behavioral it's trained and the incentive structure isn't there we all acknowledge that it's trashed but there's always this notion that someone else will clean it up and to be real..."

"know ring of trash a ring of trash that's a it's a it's a Johnny Cash yeah yeah no I know it's it's it's also just quite the picture to imagine this ring of trash circling around us above I want to en..."

"important and we see like-minded companies around us working and like-minded people working on the same set of challenges I think the first part of our mission safety My Hope Is that this this notion ..."

"with the number of objects we're talking about you know Murphy's Law is hard at work and the I the odds are low but it is possible that space debris will enter and even intersect with air traffic or s..."

"space and we've already had bad things happen we've had things happen in space that were nearly catastrophic that have nearly cost a lot of lives you know we're we're co-sponsored by Omega watches so ..."

"culture and so I'm very excited to see how certain words surrounding this issue may help illuminate the problem there's there's a a term that people can understand they can conceptualize they can asso..."

"part of my heart that has to remain a cold dark capitalist because we must make money we are not building a non-profit we have investors and those investors want to see a great return and I'm a big be..."

"I was helping Waz clean out his garage this is a true story like this is not you don't think about was cleaning out his garage right but in his garage um I came across a blue three-ring binder and it ..."

"how like how can you be the human that did this and be the human that cared enough to write this down uh and and to live by those things and I think it is important that we make a difference and we ma..."

"and we have to work on it now yeah something I took from from what you just shared there even even the example of seeing the drawings in waz's garage is that I think you've had the unique perspective ..."

"today in order to address it because it's going to be too late if we address it tomorrow when it was and it was weird it's too it was too early when we did Apollo now that we are in a commercial space..."

"urgent and the urgency there are there are a number of companies that are feeling that urgency in a number of people that are innovating in space that clearly see the urgency and you can sense it beca..."

"will have encountered this idea of space sustainability and again thank you for sharing that Alex oh Steph thank you for giving us a platform and Shining a light on this really incredible Topic at thi..."