"the following is a conversation with Marcus hunter senior research scientists the google deepmind throughout his career of research including with Juergen Smith Huber and Shayne leg he has proposed a ..."

"Marcus launched the 50,000 euro hütter prize for lossless compression of human knowledge the idea behind this prize is that the ability to compress well is closely related to intelligence this to me i..."

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"strongly believe and I'm pretty convinced that the universe is inherently beautiful elegant and simple and described by these equations and we're not just picking that I mean if the versatile phenomen..."

"I believe that Occam's razor is probably the most important principle in science I mean of course we logically Duck shouldn't be do experimental design but science is about finding understanding the w..."

"there's some artifacts and humans which you know are just artifacts and not an evolutionary necessary but there's this beauty and simplicity it's I believe at least the core is about like science find..."

"widely means also then using these models for doing predictions or predictions also part of of the induction so I'm little sloppy sort of as a terminology and maybe that comes from ray solomonoff you ..."

"program is again you know counter and so that is roughly speaking house a lot of interaction works the extra twist is that it can also deal with noisy data so if you have for instance a coin flip say ..."

"data is essentially compression so I don't see any difference between contrast compression understanding and prediction so we're jumping around topics a little bit but returning back the simplicity a ..."

"files in terms a sip files with certain compressors and you can also put yourself extracting archives that means as an executable if you run it it reproduces the original file without needing an extra..."

"tricky and difficult question so as I said before I believe that the whole universe based on the evidence we have is very simple so it has a very short description the whole sorry did you would you li..."

"like noise so we can't you know get away with statistics even then I mean think about rolling a dice and you know forget about quantum mechanics and you know exactly how you you throw it but I mean it..."

"so now if we don't the whole universe but just a subset you know just take planet Earth planet Earth cannot be compressed you know into a couple of equations this is a hugely complex just so interesti..."

"fascinating I think one of the most beautiful object mathematical objects that at least today seems to be under study or under talked about is cellular automata what lessons do you draw from sort of t..."

"phenomena and people you know sometimes you know how can how is chemistry and biology is so rich I mean this can't be based on simple rules yeah but now we know quantum electrodynamics describes all o..."

"a little bit so I try to derive the locations you know there are these circles and the Apple shape and then you have smaller Mandelbrot sets recursively in this set in this way to mathematically by so..."

"way of finding the underlying structure in every data set and there was a lot of interaction dolls and Kolmogorov complexity in practice of course we have to approach the problem more intelligently an..."

"it's uh it's inspiring so let me ask another absurdly big question what is intelligence in your view so I have of course a definition I wasn't sure what you're gonna say because you could have just as..."

"interesting so yeah so the consciousness abstract reasoning or all these kinds of things are just emerging phenomena that help you in towards can you say the definition against multiple environments d..."

"possible and it also depends how you define it do you say AGI with general intelligence artificial general intelligence only refers to if you achieve human-level or a subhuman level but quite broad is..."

"and we have this annual competitions alumna price and I mean it started with Elijah that was the first conversational program and what is it called the Japanese Mitsouko or so that's the winner of the..."

"place of course you know we can develop them by trial and error and you know do whatever and and then run the test and see whether it works or not but a mathematical definition of intelligence gives u..."

"as an intermediate aim so you mean a measure so this is kind of almost returning to the coma girl of complexity so you're saying good compression usually means good intelligence yes so you mentioned y..."

"so this action at time I and then followed by reception at time I will go with that I let it out the first part yes I'm just kidding I have some interpretations so at some point maybe five years ago o..."

"then take the next step can you maybe talk at the big level of what is this mathematical framework yeah so it consists essentially of two parts one is the learning and induction and prediction part an..."

"this where it's trying to predict the environment without your long-term action in the environment what is prediction okay if you want to put the actions in now okay then let's put in a now yes so the..."

"can have proof convergence rates whatever your data is so there's pure magic in a sense what's the catch well the catch is that is not computable and we come back to that later you cannot just impleme..."

"Biff after I've explained the Ising model it's an interesting variation but this is a really interesting variation and a quick comment I don't know if you want to insert that in here but you're lookin..."

"optimal strategy which for norman already figured out a long time ago for playing adversarial games luckily or maybe unluckily for the theory it becomes harder the world is not always adversarial so i..."

"probability you drive in front of me brakes and I don't know you know so depends on all kinds of things and especially new situations I don't know so this is this unknown thing about prediction and th..."

"yes it's kind of a nice idea yeah so okay and then you said there's you're playing N or M or forgot the letter steps into the future so how difficult is that problem what's involved there okay so here..."

"standard discounting is so called geometric discounting so $1 today is about worth as much as you know one dollar and five cents tomorrow so if you do this so called geometric discounting you have int..."

"humans - right and my children don't plan ahead very long but then we get the doll - a player I had more longer maybe when we get all very old I mean we know that we don't live forever and you're mayb..."

"fast and if I give the agent a fixed horizon M yeah then I cannot prove asymptotic results right so I mean sort of people dies in hundred years then and hundred uses over cannot say eventually so this..."

"brilliant a put okay so so as you were saying about it okay so and the reason why I didn't settle I mean this thought about you know once we have solved HDI it solves all kinds of other not just as he..."

"inspire in which direction to go what do you mean by that so if you have some choice to make right so how should they evaluate my system if I can't do cross validation how should I do my learning if m..."

"approaches we know already now they are limiting so for instance usually you need a go digital assumption in the MDP frameworks in order to learn it goes this T essentially means that you can recover ..."

"see as the role of exploration sort of you mentioned you know in the in the real world and get into trouble when we make the wrong decisions and really pay for it but exploration it seems to be fundam..."

"too little in this very simple settings in the IHC model and was also able to prove that it is a self optimizing theorem or asymptotic optimality theorems or later only asymptotic not finite time boun..."

"compress it and you are selective but occasionally you go back to the old data and reanalyze it based on your new experience you have you know sometimes you you're in school you learn all these things..."

"interesting question and I asked a lot about this question where do the rivers come from and that depends yeah so and there you know I give you now a couple of answers so if you want to build agents n..."

"worth it just let them stay so so even in apparently simple problems you can make mistakes you know and that's what in in war serious context say a GI safety researchers consider so now let's go back ..."

"the humans yeah so if you are more ambitious and just say we want to build a new species of intelligent beings we put them on a new planet and we want them to develop this planet or whatever so we don..."

"course you could define the awaited game the concept of information it gets stuck in that library that you mentioned beforehand with the was a very large number of books the first agent had this probl..."

"and so look at other fields outside of computer science computational aspects never play a fundamental role you develop biological models for cells something in physics these theories I mean become mo..."

"problem so intelligence without computational resources then the next and very good question is could we improve it by including computational resources but nobody was able to do that so far you know ..."

"planning part by sampling and it's successful on some small toy problems we don't want to lose the generality all right and that's sort of the handicap right if you want to be general you have to give..."

"and by definition does the same job but just faster okay and then you know it proved over it and over it and it's it's it's developed in a way that all parts of this girdle machine can self improve bu..."

"sort of improve it further and further in an exact way so what this is theoretically possible that the the girl machine process could improve isn't isn't or isn't actually already optimal it is optima..."

"super interesting the sort of the the perfect intelligence combined with self-improvement sort of provable self improvement since he always liked it you're always getting the correct answer and you're..."

"can't wait til the day where AI systems exhibit consciousness because it'll truly be some of the hardest ethical questions how well we do with that it is rather easy to build systems which people ascr..."

"intelligence problem so I think enough people I mean maybe a small number we're still interested in in formalizing intelligence and thinking of general intelligence but you know not much came up right..."

"getting experience in a also it's just simulated 3d world is possibly and I say possibly important to understand things on a similar level as humans do especially if the agent or primarily if the agen..."

"trajectory through life in terms of your journey of ideas so it's interesting to ask what books technical fiction philosophical and books ideas people had a transformative effect books are most intere..."

"but it's also quite deep if you could live one day of your life over again because it made you truly happy or maybe like we said with the books it was truly transformative what what day what moment wo..."