"I had a there were a couple questions from the internet but I figured we could just start with kind of what we were talking before about education in general sure so as you're a dad now and you're thi..."

"the United States there's a lot of reasons for that but one of them is that maybe it's just simply the model as they have constructed it and are sort of buttressing it to keep it exactly as it has bee..."

"set of people and ideas we if you if you didn't have cultural institutions and you didn't have schools in the contemporary United States there's not there's not that many things that are accessible to..."

"illusions of that that the ideas that I have or the capabilities that I have or the or the knowledge that I have comes from me it comes from it comes from being connected and embedded with an amazing ..."

"talk about what it is but it's it's I'll just say it's a it's a it's a it's a very large scale artwork that is that's using that's using CRISPR and you know I know fuck-all about how to get that done ..."

"people who feel like they can spot talented people also feel a little inadequate and a little like an impostor and they don't know how to add value yeah well that's a good question I think there's a c..."

"lot about how how how ideas can provide value basically so now do you fundraise for area code no we just Frank and I just boots draft we just we totally did that it was it was just two dudes in a room..."

"yeah we were a game design shop and that is insane because what we would do is we would just we would pick up technologies or ideas that would fall off the back of different trucks and we would hold i..."

"the two things that arrived five years into our into our project like like after five years of really kind of just like wow is that this is it this is it this five years in iOS arrived and we were lik..."

"great games in VR I haven't seen one yet I think that broadly speaking everything that I'm seeing in VR games is basically done by people who made console games and where they're essential mm-hmm mode..."

"VR right and yeah I mean well well also you know games aren't narrative vehicles in general right I mean they're there I there's a whole it's a whole very nerdy set of ideas around games and narratolo..."

"negotiate the fact that they are separated which is a you know it's partly it's not partly it is an explicit reference to William Gibson's early the Neuromancer in which case and Molly you you know ha..."

"interesting things about hiring new faculty at the Media Lab is like the the primary criterion is is that they're a misfit right and it's like we're we're looking for misfits who are thinking about ho..."

"to get other people which is that you're basically you you know you kind of map out the spaces of where all those 30 people are and then you just look for somebody who is equidistant from all of them ..."

"doesn't mean that it's new right like and and if I was interested in scaling that again I wouldn't try to do that there and so for me I came to the Media Lab to figure out you know they brought me the..."

"you know I had become just totally interested in in microbiology and and that's what the next two years really looked like okay I was was was really sort of revisiting the the ideas that were undernea..."

"cities are not as simple as hardware and a bunch of users that's just not that's not what they are and when we started area code the what was underneath it was we're gonna build software for cities ri..."

"you were in you know we we we didn't go into it to do Facebook games or any of them more so yeah yeah I mean there were we found something very interesting in that but but when we started it was becau..."

"notion of cities as biological super organisms um that like you know to to understand that you know if you if you step all the way back and you just look it's like you know you look at termites you kn..."

"series of very weird tangents which is what the Media Lab is is good at what I became interested in was I had I had a I had a a a hobbyists interest for a long time in in in the gut biome crunches whi..."

"know that you know you are a collective organism right you know that that you know there's all kinds of ways to represent this and there's always you know it depends how you measure things but but one..."

"when you travel right you know it's like it's why you eat the food that you know in some city that you've never been to you eat the food that everybody else there yeah but no problem and it caused you..."

"poem you know like the we what I was trying to communicate wasn't data mm-hmm it was an idea hmm and that that is a very and that's and that's basically that's what that's what culture does right like..."

"into her crown and also the opportunity this is the first cultural center the shed the shed is the first cultural center to be at scale to be built in New York City since Lincoln Center okay Wow which..."

"it's the artistic director who prior to this had been the artistic director of the armory and had done a bunch of shows there that on paper are obviously bad ideas and then you would go and and they w..."

"legitimately risky mm-hmm and I think it is it's just so rare that I mean these days it's just so rare that anybody takes an authentic risk of any kind but I think it's it's it's maybe even especially..."

"pretty hardcore folks from NASA's Voyager engineers and we were sitting up top looking at the motors that move the building and and and one of them said like you know this is this is ambitious and it'..."

"thing they do so it took me a while to realize that it's that it's that it really is unusual then I had to understand why you would even want that and there's a couple different answers but the most v..."

"the fact of the building moves it's also like the best way to make it real like how few efficiencies you get in having an exhibition space with the performance spaces yeah think about what it's like t..."

"the building moves it's not just that the building is weird it's that the notion of the institution you know his weird it's like it's weirder than anybody knows can you put the the risks you want to t..."

"the spaces so like you tweak that and all of these sort of pry or is that you have for culture institutions yeah go out the window with it yeah so that's that's one of the big risky initiatives and th..."

"well the reasons is because we the the architecture team had the insight to put in an unprecedented amount of bandwidth for a cultural institution it's it's it's the first time I've ever been part of ..."

"like a beacon you know like this thing that emits a live synchronizing signal to everybody around the world I don't want to I don't want to put it up on YouTube I don't want to put it up on you know i..."

"culture yeah you know if you look at what technologies do and have done is they basically delaminate whatever it is that we like from its mode of transmission or expression whatever and if we didn't i..."