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Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex | Lex Fridman Podcast #478

Scott Horton: The Case Against War and the Military Industrial Complex | Lex Fridman Podcast #478

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Scott Horton is the director of the Libertarian Institute, editorial director of Antiwar.com, host of The Scott Horton Show, co-host of Provoked, and for the past three decades a staunch critic of U.S. military interventionism. Thank you for listening ❤ Check out our sponsors: https://lexfridman.com/sponsors/ep478-sb See below for timestamps, and to give feedback, submit questions, contact Lex, etc. *CONTACT LEX:* *Feedback* - give feedback to Lex: https://lexfridman.com/survey *AMA* - submit questions, videos or call-in: https://lexfridman.com/ama *Hiring* - join our team: https://lexfridman.com/hiring *Other* - other ways to get in touch: https://lexfridman.com/contact *EPISODE LINKS:* Supplemental Notes & Corrections: https://lexfridman.com/scott-horton-links-and-notes/ Scott's X: https://x.com/scotthortonshow Scott Horton Show: https://youtube.com/@scotthortonshow Provoked Show: https://youtube.com/@Provoked_Show Scott's Substack: https://scotthortonshow.com/ Scott's Website: https://scotthorton.org/ Scott's Books: https://amzn.to/3T9Qg7y Libertarian Institute: https://libertarianinstitute.org/ Antiwar.com: https://antiwar.com/ *SPONSORS:* To support this podcast, check out our sponsors & get discounts: *Allio Capital:* AI-powered investment app that uses global macroeconomic trends. Go to https://lexfridman.com/s/allio_capital-ep478-sb *Hampton:* Community for high-growth founders and CEOs. Go to https://lexfridman.com/s/hampton-ep478-sb *BetterHelp:* Online therapy and counseling. Go to https://lexfridman.com/s/betterhelp-ep478-sb *AG1:* All-in-one daily nutrition drink. Go to https://lexfridman.com/s/ag1-ep478-sb *OUTLINE:* 0:00 - Introduction 0:45 - From the Cold War to the War on Terror 53:43 - Iraq War 1 1:21:48 - Bin Laden 2:21:09 - Afghanistan War 2:36:05 - Iraq War 2 3:02:30 - Military Industrial Complex 3:41:56 - Scott's life story 4:11:45 - Iraq War 2 (continued) 5:03:14 - Syria 5:56:32 - Iraq War 3 6:08:59 - Somalia 6:14:26 - Iran 7:04:12 - Israel-Palestine 8:53:49 - Cold War 2.0 *PODCAST LINKS:* - Podcast Website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast - Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr - Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 - RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ - Podcast Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrAXtmErZgOdP_8GztsuKi9nrraNbKKp4 - Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/lexclips *SOCIAL LINKS:* - X: https://x.com/lexfridman - Instagram: https://instagram.com/lexfridman - TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@lexfridman - LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/lexfridman - Facebook: https://facebook.com/lexfridman - Patreon: https://patreon.com/lexfridman - Telegram: https://t.me/lexfridman - Reddit: https://reddit.com/r/lexfridman

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0:00 - 0:45
0:45 duration96 words

Introduction

"The following is a conversation with Scott Horton. He's the director of the Libertarian Institute, editorial director of anti-war.com, co-host of Provoked, and host of the Scott Horton Show on which h..."

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0:45 - 53:46
53:01 duration10541 words

From the Cold War to the War on Terror

"I think one of the darkest and most disturbing chapters of modern American history is everything that happened around conducting the so-called wars on terror. I think to me it was a wakeup call. I thi..."

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53:46 - 1:21:50
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Iraq War 1

"war. So America gives like a flash and yellow light to Saddam Hussein, their client that to go ahead and take back the northern oil fields. And oh, I left out one piece was when I was talking about th..."

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1:21:50 - 2:21:10
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Bin Laden

"Bin Laden? So, this gave enough fuel for Bin Laden to construct a narrative where America That's right. the bad guys. And and this is such an important thing. Um there's this great book uh by Michael ..."

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2:21:10 - 2:36:07
14:56 duration2856 words

Afghanistan War

"sitting in Chicago when 911 happened. I remember being really confused in the months after in the hours and the days and the months after with all the narratives that were coming out. It didn't quite ..."

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2:36:07 - 3:02:31
26:24 duration4707 words

Iraq War 2

"far into Iraq War 2 and the neoconservatives, we need to decide whether we want to talk about the Afghanistan war now or whether we want to come back and talk more about Afghanistan later or maybe not..."

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3:02:31 - 3:41:57
39:26 duration7417 words

Military Industrial Complex

"complex now start stepping into this whole picture? Great place for this question. So Andrew Coburn is a great author. His brother Patrick Coburn, I mentioned previously, is the most important or at l..."

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3:41:57 - 4:11:46
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Scott's life story

"aside, you mentioned you used to be a cab driver. I would love to understand the story of somebody that was a cab driver that eventually became one of the most prolific libertarians, anti-war intellec..."

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4:11:46 - 5:03:14
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Iraq War 2 (continued)

"A good place to pick up our story here would be uh John Mirshimer and Steven Walt's book. We've talked about Mir Shimemer and Walt previously. Now their book is called The Israel Lobby and American Fo..."

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5:03:14 - 5:56:33
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Syria

"talk about uh redirection? Okay. So the redirection was from the policy was really I think invented in late '05 and then sort of discussed and implemented in beginning in 2006 and the article is calle..."

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5:56:33 - 6:08:59
12:26 duration2172 words

Iraq War 3

"launched a war. He waited a couple of months to try to push out Maliki and then he launched Iraq War 3 to destroy the caliphate again. In this time, in this case, directly on the side of the Iranians,..."

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6:08:59 - 6:14:26
5:27 duration938 words

Somalia

"All right, we absolutely today must talk about Israel Palestine and the Iran war. But before that, can we uh uh wrap up uh Somalia and uh Iraq War II? Right. So, yeah, we'll get those out of the way r..."

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Iran

"we started talking about Iran and then you went to Somalia because we had to cover Somalia, right? And then I guess because we're both just focused and a little bit exhausted, forgot to talk about Ira..."

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7:04:12 - 8:53:50
1:49:38 duration18741 words

Israel-Palestine

"Now, let's let's go back to Iran and their nuclear program and the recent war in a minute, but you want to do Israel Palestine. Okay. So, it's a huge long complicated story. I really highly recommend ..."

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8:53:50 - 10:26:28
1:32:38 duration15947 words

Cold War 2.0

"So, like we talked about provoked, you wrote a book on uh cold war 2.0. Mhm. How Washington started the new cold war with Russia and the catastrophe in Ukraine. So, can you lay out the history and the..."