"yeah you know I've had this conversation quite a few times over the years with Founders and friends who were running a company going sideways or or worse and have had this question should I continue o..."

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"that we have connectivity between the products that we launched new web apps that meet new types of creatives and you know and that that was a incredible five-year chapter now with the Advent of AI an..."

"shipping and that's that's a hard thing to do in the company that has a lot of Legacy products you know and a lot of baggage that comes with them and on the emerging product side it's really about the..."

"you can ship better experiences so a lot of the work I had to do was breaking some of these boundaries down over the years and and uh and I think that a lot of G product officials traditionally don't ..."

"psychology it's about understanding the natural human tendencies that people have in their most you know Primal moments I talk a lot about the first mile experiences that we have across any product we..."

"essentially that's the onboarding flow maybe to the activation moment I think that's right it's the onboarding flow it's the initial experience it's the defaults that you see it's the orientation of w..."

"over again I mean when you look at a product like Photoshop for example it used to cost hundreds and hundreds of dollars right now you can get Photoshop for as little as 10 bucks a month and so of cou..."

"know based on what type of user we are I have a billion AI related questions for you so I'm going to hold off just a problem a bit and I wanted to double click on the empathy piece so you talk about h..."

"know some of the best customers some of the best products in the world are made when we are you know the makers are the customer makes me think of Mark Andreessen as this awesome code that I always co..."

"interesting and reminds me of something I just talked about with Gustav from Spotify whose episode might come in out before this or after this about how every great consumer product pulls some kind of..."

"work those features are then brought into the native Apple camera for instance so let's double click on that I know this is like a big question but just what have you found is important for a new cons..."

"actually execute that sort of approach I mean one of the first comments I'll just make is whenever I'm asked by teams what features need to be part of their MVP how do they decide you know which featu..."

"we actually launched with pretty much all of these features and and then you know it was the most complicated form of behance was ironically at the beginning and then what we realized is that some thi..."

"you probably only need to do half of it I wonder if in reality most of the time you only realize this afterwards versus ahead of time and that's just the way it is and then it's just the Seal of sun s..."

"let's shift to talking about AI which I'm really excited about because I know you've been spending a lot of time talking with people about AI building AI products you all launched Firefly which a lot ..."

"that I uh you know and I also am excited about humans having less Grudge work to do I'm also excited for that it reminds me there's a it might have a tick tock account and uh I have this team that hel..."

"cross-functional mini team which sort of suggests this idea of idea meritocracy you know it's almost like what if people get promoted an opportunity you know based on how creative and how much Ingenui..."

"result of AI well let me start by saying that I think that the greatest performers I've ever worked with whether they're designers or product leaders basically preserve the time to explore lots of pos..."

"surface area in far less time it reminds me of something I always share about like why do you need a PM why do you need a designer why do you need researchers it's not necessarily that they're just li..."

"cheat code of my career as a product leader as has just been disproportionately empowering design throughout the process I think what we're going to start seeing is generative AI augmenting the design..."

"out this term golden gut what is that about the golden gut is when you're when you're designing an experience and uh and a flow you are playing around right with all kinds of options you're moving thi..."

"opportunity cost trade-off like I think those sorts of little micro decisions that we make in the process of building products that's the golden gut I love it I have not heard that term before 4 PM's ..."

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"crucial idea you know for a problem you're facing at the moment there's a lot of people actually in your shoes that want to write more and put content out but that also a full-time job with a lot of t..."

"the bottom line is that these years in the middle of whether it's a venture your new startup will turn around within a big company they are messy because they are full of lows you know it's very volat..."

"there's a lot of research around progress be getting progress and how progress is a source of motivation and so as product leaders like we have to merchandise progress we have to be the steward of thi..."

"don't you're right don't make a bold decision on a bad day but if the conviction you know generally dissipates be open-minded about other options you do a lot of Angel Investing talk to a lot of Found..."

"on the product side I am looking for an object model way of thinking about a product that I'm confident that we'll we'll scale you know and as they as they solve their their problem and when I say obj..."

"okay excellent any last words of wisdom that you think could impact the way people build products in the world the tens of thousands hundreds of thousands of listeners listening is there anything else..."

"in the Venture world is ultimately an exception and uh and with all the best practices Lenny that you and I just discussed and all the stuff that we read in books and whatever else I always try to rem..."

"involved but with that we've reached our very exciting lightning round I've got six questions for you we'll try to go through it pretty fast sounds good"

"through it pretty fast sounds good okay sound excited here we go sounds good let's do it let's do it what are two or three books that you've"

"what are two or three books that you've recommended most to other people first is build by Tony Fidel you know Tony is just an amazing charismatic deeply pragmatic product Builder you know he he's bee..."

"people uh feel successful and and and and and productive so I I don't know I I love those books just because I think that they remind us of sort of the limitations and opportunities or possibilities o..."

"itself and taking initiative on your passion is a muscle memory that once you develop it you know I have a daughter who loves horseback riding I don't know if she's going to do horseback riding foreve..."

"love that what's a favorite interview question you like to ask when you're interviewing people there's a real one and there's a snarky one right so the um you know I do I do love trying to understand ..."

"billion sources of content I'm definitely going to check that out I've been looking for an app like that of like I'm sitting it in the evening what the hell should I watch I've seen everything that ex..."

"Scott this is the first time we've ever chatted but I feel like I know you you are wonderful thank you so much for being here two final questions where can folks find you online if they want to reach ..."