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Marc Andreessen joins Joe Lonsdale for a live conversation at the inaugural Ronald Reagan Economic Forum. They explore one of the most urgent and complex questions of our time: Can AI and robotics catalyze a new era of American industrial strength—and how do we ensure the entire country, including rural communities, shares in the upside? Marc walks through the history of U.S. industrialization, the lessons of tariffs and trade from leaders like McKinley, and how America’s shift to a services-based economy helped fuel our current urban-rural divide. The conversation spans immigration policy, housing, education, energy, and the path to a true AI-powered manufacturing revival—touching on what needs to change and how. This episode is a must-listen for anyone thinking about the future of American productivity, growth, and leadership in the age of AI. Timecodes: 00:00 Episode intro 02:18 Understanding McKinley & Trump on tariffs 07:20 Manufacturing to services; America's economic shift 11:30 The great clash between cities & rural America 15:50 Deindustrializing was a choice 17:40 AI is a fundamental turning point 20:30 Robotics will be biggest industry ever created 23:54 High-skilled immigration + DEI hurts rural kids 29:32 What are bottlenecks to AI boom Resources: Find Marc on X: https://x.com/pmarca Follow Joe on X: https://x.com/jtlonsdale You can find his writings here: https://blog.joelonsdale.com/ Stay Updated: Let us know what you think: https://ratethispodcast.com/a16z Find a16z on Twitter: https://twitter.com/a16z Find a16z on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/a16z Subscribe on your favorite podcast app: https://a16z.simplecast.com/ Follow our host: https://twitter.com/stephsmithio Please note that the content here is for informational purposes only; should NOT be taken as legal, business, tax, or investment advice or be used to evaluate any investment or security; and is not directed at any investors or potential investors in any a16z fund. a16z and its affiliates may maintain investments in the companies discussed. For more details, please see a16z.com/disclosures.
"We're at this very specific and important and fundamental and I think profound turning point in technology which is the rise of AI. >> How do we explain this to people? Because a lot of lots are going..."
"you know, we talk a lot here of course about about Reagan's e economic pillars and policies which include deregulation and lower taxes and lower spending. Uh, all of which are very relevant today. But..."
"and you've said this yourself in other context, we had this manufacturing wave and then in starting in the 1960s, uh services really drove a lot of our growth the last 60 years, which obviously was no..."
"the countryside which I you know I think is quite dangerous. >> Let's be controversial and dig into this a little bit more on cities. So I think a lot of us have noticed that our cities are deeply dys..."
">> Let me try to make it optimistic. These are choices. Like these are choices. These are policy choices. Like sometimes the way this stuff gets painted is that these are just like impersonal economic..."
"this AI wave and AI services right and so I think I think one thing that's very interesting right now is obviously we all know there's major cost disease in our society. Healthcare is becoming more an..."
"to happen and it's going to happen in the next decade and it's going to happen at giant scale. And I I I think there's a plausible argument which Elon also believes that robotics is going to be the bi..."
"controversial topic which you know over the last several decades you mentioned this. We've kind of pursued de-industrialization financialization. Uh we've also pursued mass immigration and you know th..."
"the real world with robotics. We're going to start to build hopefully if we get the policies right and it's going to lift all these people up. What are the bottlenecks or things in the way of doing th..."