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What I learned from reading "Working" by Robert Caro (https://a.co/d/4EgS10U). https://www.founderspodcast.com/ Full Transcript and Show Notes: https://www.founderspodcast.com/episodes/37516674/senra-robert-carothe-relationship-with-your-father-power-poverty-ruthlessness-obsession-and-running David Senra: https://x.com/FoundersPodcast?s=20
Robert Caro emphasizes that biography should not merely be a collection of facts but should allow readers to visualize the context of the subject's life. He reflects on how understanding the environment and experiences of figures like Lyndon Johnson can lead to deeper insights into their character and motivations.
"biography should not just be a collection of facts it's of real importance to enable the reader to see in his mind the places in which the book's facts are located if a reader can visualize them for h..."
Caro discusses the profound influence of Lyndon Johnson's father on his life, particularly how his father's financial mistakes and romantic optimism shaped Johnson's character. This relationship instilled in Johnson a fear of failure and a determination to succeed, which would later manifest in his political career.
"Sam Johnson's determination to buy the original Johnson Ranch the ranch's soil had worn out there wasn't going to be any way of making much money out of that land and his father didn't realize that hi..."
Caro explains how Lyndon Johnson's father's optimism led to financial ruin, which in turn created a sense of insecurity in Johnson's youth. This experience taught Johnson the harsh realities of life and the importance of facing unpleasant facts, shaping his pragmatic approach to politics.
"19 years old he worked for almost 2 years on a highway gang driving a Fresno a Fresno is a device that was used to level unpaved highways it is a big heavy slab of iron with the front Edge sharpened t..."
Caro highlights Lyndon Johnson's exceptional ability to count votes accurately, a skill that set him apart in politics. This talent was rooted in his father's failures, which taught Johnson the consequences of wishful thinking and the importance of being realistic in political assessments.
"lynon Johnson's political activities of all of his political activities one of the most remarkable was his ability to count votes this is incredible Caro is about to describe why and how lyndon's fath..."
Caro contrasts the political styles of Lyndon Johnson and John F. Kennedy, illustrating Johnson's relentless pursuit of votes and his willingness to use any means necessary to secure them. This ruthlessness stemmed from his understanding of the stakes involved, shaped by his early life experiences.
"for many people it's just an unfortunate personal characteristic for lynon Johnson it was the bite of the rains into his back as he shoved hour after hour under that merciless Hill Country Sun pushing..."
Caro reflects on his own journey as a biographer, discussing the motivations behind his work and the lessons learned from his subjects. He emphasizes the importance of understanding the complexities of power and the human experience in his writing.
"being Charming being friends wasn't What mattered to Johnson What mattered to him was winning because he knew what losing could be what its consequences could be hundreds of writers journalists and au..."
Caro shares insights into his research process, explaining how he dedicates years to understanding his subjects deeply. He discusses the significance of thorough research in uncovering the truths about power dynamics and the lives of influential figures.
"the documentary is about the 50-year relationship uh that Carol has had with his editor and in that documentary you see Caro's approach to his work and so when I went I have this like bookshelf where ..."
Caro introduces his life motto, 'turn every page,' which reflects his commitment to exhaustive research. He explains how this approach has shaped his writing process and the depth of understanding he seeks to achieve in his biographies.
"which are my life it's about what it was like to sit listening to Robert Moses who was old but still Mighty to be in a room with him alone with him and hear him talk about his dreams the dreams that h..."
Caro discusses the challenges he faced while writing his biographies, including financial struggles and the pressure of deadlines. He emphasizes the importance of perseverance and dedication to the craft of writing.
"so this is the first me time he mentions it he mentions it multiple times that there is a whole the world Works Powers uh acred and also utilized very differently from what he was taught in college wh..."
Caro reflects on the influence of mentors in his life, particularly during his early career. He shares how guidance from experienced writers helped him navigate the complexities of biographical writing.
"writing was so easy to me that type of writing later on writing becomes very difficult to him I determined to do something to slow myself down to not write until I had thought things through and the o..."
Caro discusses the ethical implications of power and the human cost associated with political decisions. He emphasizes the need for biographers to address these realities in their work.
"once once he goes down this line the reason they take so long is because he has to turn every page we'll get to that very important that becomes his life motto I'll tell you a few minutes how uh who t..."
Caro stresses the significance of context in understanding historical figures. He explains how moving to the Hill Country allowed him to gain insights into Lyndon Johnson's upbringing and the factors that shaped his character.
"the main theme of the book that I have no choice this is my nature I have to turn every page and so he says I try to write the power broker without dramatizing this human cost I would start outlining ..."
Caro shares anecdotes about his interactions with Lyndon Johnson's family, illustrating how personal stories reveal deeper truths about Johnson's character and motivations.
"not a full-fledged Memoir what is it it's a book about my work and how I do it why am I publishing this book now why don't I just include this material in the longer fulllength Memoir that I'm hoping ..."
Caro highlights Lyndon Johnson's relentless determination to succeed in politics, drawing parallels between Johnson's early struggles and his later achievements. This determination was fueled by his desire to escape his past.
"I'm just typing these and jotting these down as I'm watching this and I watch this twice and what I realized about a young Robert was that he fell in love with books when he was young young he had a r..."
Caro discusses how the environments in which individuals grow up can shape their ambitions and drive. He reflects on the contrasting backgrounds of Johnson and Caro, emphasizing the impact of upbringing on their respective paths.
"sitting there gr going through them I felt I was at home there are certain moments in your life when you suddenly understand something about yourself I loved going through those files making them yiel..."
Caro explores the expectations placed on Lyndon Johnson and how they influenced his actions and decisions throughout his political career. He discusses the pressure to succeed and the fear of failure.
"across Long Island and so that's what Robert wants to happen he has an unbelievable amount of power this time so Robert Carol is up there everybody in ALB says no we're not going to do this he's like ..."
Caro delves into the complexities of political power, discussing how it can be wielded for both good and ill. He emphasizes the need for biographers to capture these nuances in their work.
"understands how he got this power or how powerful he was and so he says I didn't do much with the S at the time I love being a reporter but you're always running from one story to another and it wasn'..."
Caro reflects on his journey as a writer, discussing the challenges and triumphs he has faced. He emphasizes the importance of resilience and the willingness to learn from experiences.
"realities of power how it really works and that's just incredible incredible writing like you feel like you're in the CL like when you're reading this you feel you're really there with Robert and so t..."
Caro discusses the significance of relationships in his life and work, highlighting how connections with others have influenced his writing and understanding of power dynamics.
"you will be in your life which is complete and utter [ __ ] the power broker was published in 1974 it is it's on it's like 47th printing it is on the top list of the hund best non-fiction books over a..."
Caro shares his experiences with self-doubt and how it has shaped his writing process. He emphasizes the importance of overcoming these feelings to achieve success.
"sorry not Richard Robert gotle uh Bob gotle and Linn nbit come into his life and they're actually in the documentary and this is I don't even know what 40 years later 1971 so 50 over 50 years later th..."
Caro highlights the importance of persistence in achieving one's goals. He reflects on how his determination to complete his biographies has driven him throughout his career.
"said is that what you're worried about then you can stop worrying right now I can get you that just by picking up the phone everybody in New York knows about this book then she said you can stop worry..."
Caro examines the concept of ruthlessness in politics, discussing how it can be both a strength and a weakness. He reflects on how this trait has manifested in the lives of his subjects.
"the key was that this little Upstate guy and then he named some long forgotten State Assembly man and he had a mortgage coming due on his farm and the mortgage was held by a bank up there and the key ..."
Caro explores the essence of ambition and how it drives individuals to achieve greatness. He discusses the sacrifices and challenges that come with pursuing ambitious goals.
"very rare form of Genius what Robert Caro is telling us is that Robert Moses was a ruthless genius and then he builds on this he adds another layer first he told us told us about his ruthlessness then..."
Caro emphasizes the value of community and support in the writing process. He reflects on how connecting with fellow writers has enriched his work and provided encouragement.
"it's Caro that's why we just going to call him Bob uh when in Bob's life where he is struggling with doubt and uncertainty he's completely isolated he feels like the Project's never going to be finish..."
Caro discusses the journey of understanding his subjects and the complexities of their lives. He reflects on how this process has shaped his perspective as a biographer.
"the most fundamental reason for this feeling of unreality I had for 5 years been living in a world utterly unpopulated by anyone else who was doing what I was doing that's the exact same idea that Pau..."
Caro concludes by reflecting on the legacy of power and its implications for society. He emphasizes the importance of understanding the dynamics of power in shaping history.
"quiet way Eleanor and Franklin one of his biographies took me seven years in a couple of sentences these two men Idols of mine had wiped away 5 years of doubt and so now he's having lunch every day wi..."
Caro shares his final thoughts on the impact of his work and the lessons learned throughout his career. He reflects on the importance of perseverance, understanding power, and the role of biography in capturing the human experience.
"applying it to the research that he's doing in the Presidential Library of LBJ it would take multiple lifetimes to read everything but what pops out at you is that the fact that Bob was willing to spe..."