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Ep.136 — Unleashing Curiosity w/ Rohit Krishnan
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Rohit is a VC and essayist who writes fascinating, thought-provoking essays on complexity, progress, innovation and technology over at https://www.strangeloopcanon.com/ He joins the show for a second time to discuss the lessons learned from the FTX meltdown, why there isn’t a philosophy of business, creating an AI picture book, and a whole lot more. Important Links: - Rohit’s Twitter -https://twitter.com/krishnanrohit - Rohit’s Substack - https://www.strangeloopcanon.com - Our research note on Rohit - https://substack.com/inbox/post/84482243 Show Notes: [00:02:40] - What can VCs learn from FTX [00:14:33] - FTX, hubris and good manners [00:22:12] - “Don’t let anyone push you into a decision that you don’t want to make” [00:31:01] - Signing up to the right narratives [00:36:52] - Why you can’t beat the market [00:47:06] - Why isn’t there a philosophy of business? [00:59:05] - Markets, desire and innovation [01:10:13] - How AI allows us to talk to machines in our language [01:14:42] - The complexities of the AI sentience debate [01:23:37] - How AI unlocks new outlets for creativity [01:23:37] - The need for positive stories [01:30:53] - The three components of innovation [01:34:16] - “Curiosity is a sh*t starter” [01:39:05] - Finding new ways to create community [01:46:56] - Openness and experimentation - MUCH more! Books Mentioned: - What Works on Wall Street: A Guide to the Best-Performing Investment Strategies of All Time; by Jim O’Shaughnessy - The Genius of the Beast: A Radical Re-Vision of Capitalism; by Howard Bloom - Unflattening; by Nick Sousanis - Slouching Towards Utopia: An Economic History of the 20th Century; by Brad DeLong - American Gods; by Neil Gaiman - Lessons: A Novel; by Ian McEwan
Segments Timeline
The Power of Curiosity
Rohit Krishnan discusses the importance of curiosity and desire as guiding forces in life. He emphasizes that finding one's purpose leads to a happier existence and encourages everyone to create something, highlighting that all inventions originate from human minds. This segment sets the stage for the conversation about innovation and the role of AI in human creativity.
"only guide we have is our desire and our curiosity once you find your purpose it also leads to a happier life even at the smallest levels a little bit of rebellion actually outsmart a question of like..."
Lessons from the FTX Meltdown
In this segment, Rohit reflects on the FTX collapse and what venture capitalists can learn from it. He critiques the lack of basic corporate controls and due diligence that led to the downfall, emphasizing the need for VCs to ask critical questions about a company's financial health and governance before investing.
"to hear that um so I didn't tell you about this which is normal for listeners or viewers of the podcast that's kind of like the vibe of this podcast most of my guests are people like Rohit who are sup..."
Hubris and Good Manners
Rohit explores the themes of hubris and the importance of good manners in business. He discusses how the perception of Sam Bankman-Fried's eccentric behavior during investor meetings reflects a broader issue of respect and professionalism in the venture capital world, especially in light of the FTX scandal.
"um no not um so I have a more nuanced point of view on this it is not part of the culture let's get that out of the way okay um but I equate that a little bit to like you know if you're on a boring Zo..."
Decision-Making Autonomy
Rohit emphasizes the importance of maintaining autonomy in decision-making, advising listeners not to let external pressures dictate their choices. This segment highlights the significance of personal agency in both business and life, encouraging individuals to trust their instincts.
"push you into a decision that you don't want to make it's pretty much as simple as that and like you know you worked in asset management and you ran a qantasy management by definition Quant asset mana..."
The Market's Unbeatable Nature
In this segment, Rohit discusses the inherent challenges of trying to beat the market. He shares insights on market dynamics and the futility of attempting to outsmart it, reinforcing the idea that understanding market behavior is crucial for investors.
"um so if that's not the case to me effectively what that means is he was basically a captive of his belief that we can keep betting betting big because he was much smarter than everybody else much bet..."
The Absence of Business Philosophy
Rohit questions why there isn't a cohesive philosophy of business, exploring the complexities of business ethics and decision-making. He argues for the need to develop a philosophical framework that can guide business practices and decision-making processes.
"so one of the one of the great things that I have uh going for me I think despite all of my many known deficiencies is the fact that if you're around in markets for as long as I've been around in mark..."
Markets, Desire, and Innovation
Rohit delves into the relationship between markets, human desire, and innovation. He discusses how understanding these dynamics can lead to better business strategies and outcomes, emphasizing the role of desire in driving market behavior.
"um but it leads me into the piece that you wrote about why isn't there a philosophy of business and I was fascinated by that piece uh for a variety of reasons uh my first when I read it I actually wen..."
AI and Human Communication
In this segment, Rohit explains how AI enables humans to communicate with machines in their own language. He discusses the implications of this technology for creativity and collaboration, highlighting the potential for co-creation between humans and AI.
"the force behind every exchange behind every transaction be it money or information he said coin is masked attention cash is emotional need and then you had Robert Anton Wilson who famously said uh yo..."
The AI Sentience Debate
Rohit addresses the complexities surrounding the debate on AI sentience. He explores the philosophical and ethical questions that arise as AI technology advances, prompting listeners to consider the implications of sentient machines.
"by definition but it's also that like you know AI as it exists today is the first tool I think that we have created that allows us to talk to machines in our language and I don't mean English it means..."
AI as a Creative Catalyst
Rohit discusses how AI can unlock new avenues for creativity. He emphasizes the transformative potential of AI in artistic expression and innovation, encouraging creators to embrace this technology as a tool for enhancing their work.
"um doing the book for your for your son because I think that's such a great story so the there's a story that like uh my my first son vedant when he was younger I used to make up stories for him um fo..."
The Need for Positive Narratives
In this segment, Rohit highlights the importance of fostering positive stories in the context of innovation and technology. He argues that uplifting narratives can inspire creativity and drive progress in various fields.
"emotions of Idaho yeah I mean I think it's like we live in the even advertising has changed right like when you see these uh the older shows advertisings were very much like here's a counter tune it's..."
Components of Innovation
Rohit outlines the three essential components of innovation, providing insights into what drives successful creative processes. This segment serves as a guide for entrepreneurs and innovators looking to enhance their impact.
"and I have this broad pieces which might turn out to be wrong if I could probably will that almost all of the Innovation can be looked at as some function of like energy materials and knowledge energy..."
Curiosity as a Catalyst
Rohit provocatively states, 'Curiosity is a sh*t starter,' emphasizing the disruptive power of curiosity in driving change and innovation. He encourages listeners to embrace their curiosity as a means to challenge the status quo.
"curiosity at the fundamental driver for a large amount of individual as well as sort of collective Brokers you know because you have to decide where to put your time energy effort money whatever right..."
Creating Community in Innovation
Rohit discusses the importance of finding new ways to create community within the context of innovation. He emphasizes collaboration and shared experiences as vital components for fostering a thriving creative environment.
"important I think it is genuinely important especially in today's world because I think one of the weird subsets of the last several years is that we all live much more atomized lives than we used to ..."
Openness and Experimentation
In the final segment, Rohit advocates for openness and experimentation in business and innovation. He encourages listeners to adopt a mindset of exploration and adaptability, which can lead to groundbreaking discoveries and advancements.
"thinking about it and it was because well there are a lot lot of reasons right and which many of which we've discussed earlier in this in this discussion you know I'm not a big fan of organized religi..."
The Myth of Creation
In this segment, Rohit encourages listeners to embrace their creative potential, regardless of the medium. He discusses the misconception that creation is reserved for a select few, advocating for a more inclusive approach to creativity.
"wonderful dream and that they immediately say I'm gonna start doing X what you got for me I think my number one I might have said it the last time as well is gonna be the my Bona Goodie and Maxim be k..."
Curiosity as a Catalyst for Action
Rohit concludes by emphasizing the transformative power of curiosity. He argues that curiosity should drive our actions and creativity, as modern tools and platforms enable unprecedented opportunities for innovation and collaboration.
"why not give it a shot exactly the tools and the platforms are taking all of your excuses away from you so um I I'm a big believer in both of those the only thing I would add to your first one is that..."