"Tetro Grammaton. Tetro. By 2008 and 2009, there was no game in town that competed on video. was absolutely impossible to to compete against Google in YouTube. It was so difficult even you know years a..."

"They also said the same thing with YouTube. It's going to be just an open platform. it's going to fall under section 230 and we're not going to do any biases or you know algorithmic changes that are g..."

"YouTube was built on the backs of stolen content in my opinion. I believe that like they grew because they had an enormous amount of stolen content... So that was the opportunity I identified. And in ..."

"How do you come up with the name? So the person who that's actually one of the coolest stories at a high school I started websites like passing around funny pictures, funny jokes. So >> this is pre-Yo..."

"It was really expensive to host. So, you needed financing. You needed money. You definitely needed a bunch of developers to develop it. But, it was a game at that time where you couldn't really moneti..."

"So before YouTube, if you were searching for a certain kind of video, someone might end up going to Google and getting to your site... So in you know they moved their platform more to this like highly..."

"In the middle in the summer of 2020, it was uh I got a call from at the time the ranking member of the House Intel Committee in Congress. I didn't know him. I didn't know anybody in politics."

"...to build our own infrastructure. because of what was happening due to politics. A lot of the platforms were shutting things down. Not a like a lot of the hosting platforms wouldn't allow specific t..."

"So it wasn't a thoughtful decision at the time when it happened. It was when we started Rumble in 2013. What happened is that Rumble didn't move its goalposts after we established its terms."

"Was France the first government interaction you had? >> I can't remember if it was Brazil or France. Actually, the first one I think that banned Rumble was China. And I think that happened in,..."

"move towards free speech and they're going to bring everyone back and Facebook did that a year ago and Elon did that with X like a couple years ago. So it's all coming back to where we were which is g..."

"What was the first time the media came after you? >> Oh yeah. Okay. So this was in this is a good one. So it was 2020. You're going to like this story. This is this is a good story. I don't think I've..."

"Did the story talk about that at all? >> They touched on it very little. He's like, I must put it in and I'm like, why does that have any relevance to this story whatsoever? So, they didn't really tal..."

"Have you dealt with any censorship in the United States? >> We dealt with a few things. one in California, one in New York that we've challenged in the courts and we've succeeded on both of them. >> W..."

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"Where on the planet is Rumble most popular? >> United States of America >> and after that >> I would say Canada and the UK would be the next the next two. >> And are there any places where you see big..."

"So pretty excited about that. And to go to your AI point, you know, that AI resource now that we'll have is going to be critical in making Rumble better, making our ads better for our advertisers, and..."

"I remember a few years ago in Canada, there was the issue with the Canadian truckers. Do you remember the story? >> Oh, yeah. Very well. Very well. >> And they were smeared. They were removed from soc..."

"And on election night, we're, you know, not far at all. Actually, >> we're the only competition on election night. So, >> the appetite for what we're building is there. And I think that it doesn't jus..."

"How much of the internet is free and fair now? >> Not much. And it's going to get worse. It's going to get way worse with AI. >> Wasn't that the whole idea of the internet originally? >> That's the fr..."

"The whole basis of AI is that it can look at all the information that exists and make decisions even better than humans. That's the idea. >> Yep. >> So if the humans in any way put the thumb on the sc..."

"Tell me about the decision to go public. >> So, we went public in 2022. The one thing about Rumble is the people love Rumble. It's It's unbelievable how much recognition we get and how much love we ge..."

"How has it been so far since that decision? >> It's been amazing. I I everyone says like going public is tough and maybe you don't want to go public, but you know, it's kind of fun when you're when yo..."

"Where does Vimeo fit into the ecosystem of YouTube, Rumble in the video wars? >> You know, there's actually a cool story behind that. Even was started by the college humor guys. So remember I was talk..."

"So, we we do that too. We we have contracts with like Tim Pu, Steven Crowder. >> So, Tim Pool's on Rumble, but he's not on YouTube. >> He's on YouTube as well, but he's an exclusive show on Rumble as ..."

"And it had nothing to do with politics, just simply their desire for freedom of expression. Have there been any technological breakthroughs from the early days to now that have like changed everything..."

"What's the projection on quantum computing? When does that become real? They say like 5 to 10 years, some say 20, 30 years. It's really I think everything's going to happen a lot faster than people th..."

"If it breaks everything would it be legal? Yeah, that's another question, right? Like, but then if someone can have it in their basement, whether that's possible or not, like we don't know. We don't k..."