"in my best year at Uber I made about like 320 or 330 000 in total compensation and when I quit my job I was actually thinking like am I am I crazy because I'm leaving especially in Europe This is a lo..."

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"great to be here Lenny so I think this is going to be a pretty special and unique podcast your newsletter is the number one technology newsletter on sub stack called the pragmatic engineer by the way ..."

"which was a big step up for me in terms of just you know getting access to to I guess more modern software development I was at a consulting company there as well and I moved up to London which you kn..."

"leave Uber and uh it we'll talk about a little later in the podcast but I didn't plan like this but I started writing a newsletter right now here I am writing a newsletter where a bunch of people are ..."

"sub Sac introduced recommendations which has been a massive growth engine and I guess being one of the top obligations that kind of benefited from it but those numbers are are again so this is the pai..."

"about like 320 or 330 000 in total compensation this was after Uber went public so it includes the the stock the the base salary the bonus which was very very good in Europe and when I quit my job I w..."

"headquarter and all that and I was making I think like 90 something thousand pounds in base salary which is like maybe 120 130 or 140 000 depends on how the pound is doing or sometimes you know these ..."

"goes in like every year I make two years of salary pretty much like that's how I was kind of thinking but if not again don't forget I'm I'm in Europe where we're kind of used to not seeing any Returns..."

"now he's building this startup called craft docs it's a really slick put document editing system they just raised their series B so he's like you know I kind of through him I know what startup life is..."

"that I'm gonna just not make any money and this book building mobile apps at scale another book that I published about tech resumes I just wrote These in a few months they started making money they ma..."

"can buy a bunch of stuff that I don't need and I was myself like right and then what and I was like well after I bought everything that I don't need I probably want to kind of share what I know with p..."

"I was kind of thinking like look I have savings I don't have like huge but I have it for I can still take a risk so let me take a risk on on writing and I was thinking original of just like spending m..."

"if there's traction it's great you know I might have found myself a new a new job basically if not I'll just refund people like everyone who bought an annual subscription I didn't tell this to people ..."

"saying I'm gonna post once a week like you'll have one end up post and I started to do that but interesting enough eventually I I upped it to two so I now promise people two posts a week There's a mor..."

"working on unparalleled things at the same time I was often like running against the deadline I I was barely finishing it which is not what I was expecting initially so the first few months I feel was..."

"I might be able to write faster but what I now have is nowadays I actually write two articles so I have I have the Thursday that is the the scoop which actually is a lot a lot easier for me to write i..."

"as you said like I I also know that thousands of people are paying me you know I have like like they have expectations of me and so this is how it's done like if you if you want to write a book the ea..."

"this chapter and I have this list like have I written about this topic in the newsletter and I got you know where I got this idea from there's the book The Three Musketeers from Alexander to my course..."

"I always try to get my work done show up on time I try to meet all expectations but what I notice is when I start to work for myself it just went out the window like for almost 15 years of you know be..."

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"I I find that I come up with a method and it works for like a few months and then I need to change it because I my brain just learns to work around it so I'll tell you a few things that I did and I'll..."

"Facebook what whatever size so I I just cannot reach it like like it's just a very simple python that I wrote for myself and then I in the first few minutes I'm kind of grumbling I'm like I wish I cou..."

"you can look it up in the whole spot if when you override your host file you can actually block things what you're doing I did this because I wrote a script where I need to run the script and I need t..."

"yeah and and the simple thing started 20 minute timer and you say for 20 minutes I need to focus on on this thing on your iPhone or somewhere else it's just 20 minutes but during that time you cannot ..."

"want to try out plus one on both those I I have a rule of no meetings before 3 pm and it generally Works 99 of the time and the reason I do that is to your point if there's a meeting at like 11 I just..."

"workspace so everyone needs to work in Tech so I should get to say hi to people and and have a little small small talk the structure is weird because I felt really guilty for the first few months beca..."

"yourself grounded I actually want to ask you about that but I'll add a couple things that I also find are major downsides of this life because it's not all rainbows and butterflies one is with a paid ..."

"company around it build an organization that can run without you for example you know this is what a lot of book publishing companies so basically either you build a Publishing Company where you start..."

"and now I I I'm solving it for in a different way so I am trying to take more time off now and I am I'm doing it by by working ahead with some of the less time sensitive things but it is tough so the ..."

"but over time it might shift so I'm kind of keeping my my options open and what I've learned from this journey is you need to create time to to be able for that spark to come so one of my goals for th..."

"that's what I've been doing but uh one one last thing to touch on you said something really important to poll and I want to double down on that one of the one of the biggest best things about doing wh..."

"and said like you know what for the next two months I'm gonna write this book because it seems there's an interest in it and I can iterate it I I turn it into a book that was free for two months but I..."

"that I had a thousand paid subscribers and this this sounds like a fairy tale and if you do this I guarantee you're you're not going to get the same results in fact you'll you'll probably see way smal..."

"stuck with me for years he said how to be famous on the internet I said like there's three simple steps there's one write a blog post two do this like three times a week three you can do it for two ye..."

"and it exploded Hacker News some people called me an idiot some people called me the absolute wisdom like and it was these two crowds battling it out and I was like wow I actually made you know softwa..."

"build a successful newsletter but the best advice I have is still what Jeff Atwood does except I have less conviction but if you start writing and you do it regularly you know two things will happen f..."

"well don't forget the what I started like my blog I didn't have any of this so and this is while you're at Uber this is before you started the newsletter it was before before I was a dreamer so I was ..."

"control and this is how actually my my you know my blog started initially my goal was like I want to write like once a month and I did that for a while and I was I was proud and proud about that or I ..."

"this or that you know try stuff on the side assuming that you have time or or if you don't have time try to to make time because I feel a lot of what we're doing is this pre-entrepreneurial and the on..."

"you've learned or that you have access to other people who have learned these things I would say that but you know one thing that that I'll I'll double down that's a really good observation this if yo..."

"a title cut to be a software engineer and then he hosts the tdd workshop that has driven development workshop and no one showed up at Facebook and Facebook did no testing which went against all commer..."

"for how to be successful in this life of a newsletter you have to boil it down to just like one or two key pieces of advice what would you say one is have enough depth in the field whatever field you ..."

"their thing three have a Cadence and and stick to it to some extent because you you do need to keep repeating it and then four don't be afraid to try out new things a good example of a person who did ..."

"started the head of engineering at source graph he actually went back in industry but what I love about this you know it shows that you know you cannot guarantee having success but you can do what wha..."

"I'm pretty sure and here here's an interesting thought as well just as for closure I was talking with someone on why my newsletter is so successful it's just really successful and I honestly don't kno..."

"once you find that thing whatever that might be it just makes it easier gergy it's always so fun talking about newsletter stuff I don't have many people to talk about this life with I hope this was us..."