"welcome to the a 16z podcast I'm Michael Copeland the old constraint when it came to technology was hardware how many CPUs can I get my hands on today spinning up compute can be done from any smartpho..."

"CEOs and cofounders of three companies that serve software developers Chris Wan stris from github Jeff Lawson from Twilio and Ben Uretsky of digitalocean take part in a conversation with a 16 ZZZ Pete..."

"of the interesting sort of rationales behind the panel was I I often look back and it's a software development has software development prior to let's say five years ago there's always been software d..."

"years ago and what we wanted to do is bring up companies github Twilio and digitalocean companies that have that particular focus so maybe I'll start out with Chris on that and you know Chris what do ..."

"because ultimately the world is thirsty and hungry for software and the only can get more of it is by creating more developers you know so then you guys at digitalocean focus on the developer what's u..."

"visitors a month to this community and it's growing month over month and I think it just speaks to the excitement that people have over the ability to create you know from from the ground up you can l..."

"care about is the application and not the resources that are behind it so we're trying to make it as transparent as possible you know when when I see the three companies up here I just want to kind of..."

"what's fascinating is that software in most companies has moved from you know the back office it used to be you had ERP e and there were people with spreadsheets and that was the extent of how softwar..."

"spending a dollar right and it's not taking thirty six months it's taking thirty six minutes to build the prototype and so this is putting the developer now in control right because while other parts ..."

"a transformation in the industry along those lines Chris you know by the way all of these folks up here are all the founders and CEOs of their companies so it's really interesting I mean they all star..."

"github and it is really we think a hub for people using git or maybe that's what it was originally it's evolved into much more and maybe this is something that everyone learns as they've worked with t..."

"wide variety of ideas you know things had nothing to do with developers there's a sort of thing about like what are problems that are interesting and one solve and I had this realization that and ever..."

"physical items of communications actually dictate what you can do in the world but if you think about it Alexander Graham Bell made the first phone call 150 years ago about wearing together a speaker ..."

"where we where we started the company yeah awesome so Ben digitalocean an amazing story you point to the growth recent studies show that you guys are the second largest cloud provider by number of ser..."

"and you know we are one of the only pure-play I think we might be the only pure-play cloud out there digital ocean does nothing other than infrastructure as a service so we've been able to curate this..."

"low and essentially creating a viral component to to to our business which is really unheard of to think about you know a utility provider in some aspects to be able to garner a viral Network effect a..."

"your ecosystem your community and if you are successful at doing that yeah I have been say the developer market is like you're doing customer acquisition like a consumer business like a massive funnel..."

"that either run open source support open source how do they actually make money and we'll talk about that in a minute but Chris wanted to get to you on China there were reports earlier this year I gue..."

"everyone right and when code is still seen as very much like infrastructure as data as something very tangible maybe more so tangible than a blog post or an idea and so I think what github lets you do..."

"stuff that was never visible to the world before but you also get weird stuff or bad stuff and so we often have to deal with people writing code specifically that's malware people writing code specifi..."

"ridiculous there are at least 10 to 20 years behind on that so yeah we I think as a social network as they as a publishing platform have to deal with the same sort of challenges that any publishing pl..."

"open-source company so maybe we can just talk about the business models I've often you know we're investors in in two of the companies up here and you know part of our analysis and investing in digita..."

"successful because if you take a look at the more complex projects out there like you know Hadoop is pretty complicated Cassandra some of the Big Data stuff I mean we offer a lot of like one-click ins..."

"even more importantly is you know I think if there was a closed environment like if we were running VMware for instance it would it would I'm not sure exactly the right way to like phrase it but there..."

"term and I think about a little bit more Amazon is known as a closed cloud with you know vendor lock and is kind of written all over about in the press and the idea for us is that we actually want to ..."

"well I think I think we're very actually very similar to digital ocean and github in that we use open source software extensively sometimes we release code back to our customers usually you know non-c..."

"you pay us you know we're gonna get the expertise like no one in the world is probably better at running get thing github right so if you want to install it yourself great but you're not gonna run you..."

"yeah so Chris let me you know jump over to you most people think github is an open source company and I remember I wrote a blog a couple of years ago entitled why there will never be another Red Hat l..."

"years now but I grew up as an open-source developer I have some luckily I'm like a little bit too old to be part of the generation where everything's on Facebook but I like wrote papers in college abo..."

"which it's not and ultimately the end of the day I am NOT a crusader for the cloud and I'm not a crusader for open-source I am a crusader for you building the best software possible and you shipping t..."

"it's it's it's not anchored in the right sort of mind frame which is what's best for the end-user and ultimately I think developers are lazy and this is the thing like like Twilio is awesome because I..."

"believe and that's what we've tried to push with github and that's why the business model has been open source is totally free and closed source cost money because we've always believed that the more ..."

"all you do is have that joy of building and once you've built it it's someone else's job to operate it know and it's that separation of concerns that I think has really come to a maturation in the las..."

"because they were insecure or not scaling right and like starting Tullio it's like we need ticketing we use Zendesk right we need you know CMS or we need WordPress we use WP engine like you need and e..."