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In this episode, Steven interviews Jessie Inchauspé, a French biochemist and bestselling author. After breaking her back at 19, Jessie became interested in achieving optimal health. She worked at 23andMe and started the @glucosegoddess Instagram account, sharing her experiments with a glucose monitor. Her book 'Glucose Revolution' was published in 2022. (available to purchase here: https://bit.ly/3AFR4HR). Topics: 0:00 Intro 02:02 What is it that you do and why does it matter? 15:14 Why glucose? 26:45 The symptoms of bad glucose spikes 35:06 What is glucose? 38:06 What happens to our bodies when we have a glucose spike? 43:44 Glucose as it relates to weight gain 48:30 10 Hacks to prevent glucose spikes 01:02:14 The right meal to have for breakfast 01:09:26 Why you should be drinking vinegar 01:11:54 You have to be doing this after you eat 01:14:46 Your perfect diet 01:24:24 Our conversation cards 01:31:18 The last guest’s question Jessie is the author of the new book, ‘The Glucose Goddess Method’, which you can purchase here: https://bit.ly/41M9enc Follow: Instagram: https://bit.ly/3n89Pkg Our question cards waiting list: https://bit.ly/3ZzQfKz Join this channel to get access to perks: https://bit.ly/3Dpmgx5 Follow: Instagram: http://bit.ly/3nIkGAZ Twitter: http://bit.ly/3ztHuHm Linkedin: http://bit.ly/3ZFGUku Telegram: http://bit.ly/3nJYxST Follow: Instagram: http://bit.ly/3nIkGAZ Twitter: http://bit.ly/3ztHuHm Linkedin: https://bit.ly/41Fl95Q Telegram: http://bit.ly/3nJYxST Sponsors: Zoe: http://joinzoe.com with an exclusive code CEO10 for 10% off Huel: https://g2ul0.app.link/G4RjcdKNKsb Wework: https://we.co/3PgoB1M
Jessie Inchauspé, known as the Glucose Goddess, introduces herself as a biochemist and author. She shares her mission to teach people how to eat right without sacrificing their favorite foods, emphasizing the importance of glucose as the body's primary energy source and the dangers of glucose spikes.
"I'm gonna be completely honest with you here it's important I hope it's a subject matter of glucose was boring until I read your book and then I was like oh my God Jesse introspect the glucose goddess..."
Jessie explains the concept of glucose spikes and their detrimental effects on health. She highlights the urgency of understanding glucose management, stating that frequent spikes can lead to serious health issues, including a shorter lifespan.
"a biochemist an author teaching us the best hacks to eat right without giving up the foods that we love glucose is your body's favorite source of energy your brain cells are using glucose to think spe..."
Jessie shares her personal health journey, detailing her struggles and the pivotal moment that led her to explore how to improve her health. She emphasizes the importance of understanding dietary impacts on well-being and the motivation behind her work.
"what happens is what I call a glucose Spike the more spikes you have the faster you die in your book you talk about these 10 hacks yeah eat food in the right order yeah after you eat move drink vinega..."
In this segment, Jessie discusses the critical realization that health is paramount. She reflects on her experiences and the pain that drove her to prioritize understanding her body and health, highlighting the need for awareness in dietary choices.
"was like either I figure out how to fix this or this is just too painful of an existence before this episode starts I have a small favor to ask from you two months ago 74 of people that watch this cha..."
Jessie explains how many people unknowingly eat in ways that exacerbate their health issues. She discusses the transformative power of understanding food's impact on the body and how making informed dietary changes can lead to significant improvements in health.
"Jesse Steven what is it that you do and why does it matter I teach people about how food impacts their body"
Jessie emphasizes her desire to empower individuals with knowledge about their health. She addresses the confusion surrounding food marketing and dietary advice, aiming to help people reclaim their health through informed choices.
"how food impacts their body and it matters because most of us are unknowingly eating in a way that causes many of the symptoms that we suffer from on a daily basis so it matters because once people un..."
Jessie recounts her journey from a healthy childhood to a traumatic health crisis at 19. She shares the pivotal moments that shaped her understanding of health and the importance of taking control of one's well-being.
"their whole universe upgrades all of the things that they thought were just who they were you know the poor energy the Cravings the acne the bad sleep the hormonal issues all of a sudden they can vani..."
In this segment, Jessie narrates the accident that led to her broken back, detailing the fear and pain she experienced. This traumatic event became a catalyst for her deep dive into health and nutrition.
"do you care about this stuff many different reasons um one is a personal story the other is because I see a lot of people suffering from diseases that they don't understand and that unknowingly they'r..."
Jessie describes the aftermath of her accident, including the physical pain and the emotional toll it took on her. She reflects on the challenges of recovery and the realization of the fragility of health.
"way that's good for them and that breaks my heart into pieces you know I want to give people the power back I want to give people the information back because the landscape we live in you know the the..."
Jessie shares her experience of undergoing surgery for her broken back and the intense recovery process. She highlights the physical and mental challenges she faced during this time.
"Health Journey um that got me to a point where I realized that health is the most important thing in the world and if you don't have have that you really don't have much and I mean we can go into some..."
Following her physical recovery, Jessie discusses the mental health challenges she encountered, including feelings of depersonalization and panic attacks. She emphasizes the importance of mental well-being in the recovery process.
"um long version so I grew up super healthy happy kid no health issues nobody in my family had any health issues it was very you know easy and then I'm 19 years old and I'm just you know becoming a tee..."
Jessie reflects on her existential struggles post-recovery, sharing her insights on the importance of health and the fear of losing touch with reality. She discusses how these experiences shaped her perspective on life.
"friends and we go into the jungle just for a hike and the two guy friends were like super fit guys decide to jump off this waterfall this like 30 feet 30 waterfall and um like Jesse should do it too a..."
In this segment, Jessie articulates the profound realization that without health, one has nothing. She emphasizes the need to prioritize health above all else, a lesson learned through her traumatic experiences.
"I don't care like I can do whatever yeah I'm not scared so I decided to also jump off the waterfall spoiler alert it was not a good idea so I'm at the top of the the rocks and I'm looking down I'm lik..."
Jessie discusses how her traumatic experiences served as a wake-up call, prompting her to take charge of her health. She reflects on the importance of recognizing health as a foundational aspect of life.
"you're falling you get that sensation in your stomach they're like and I feel that and I just freak out like I am terrified and so midair instead of Landing really nice and straight I kind of like try..."
Jessie introduces her book, 'The Glucose Revolution,' explaining her motivation for writing it. She shares her journey of discovery regarding glucose and its impact on health, setting the stage for her insights on blood sugar management.
"really intense pain and so I go under the water I come back out and I'm like swearing I'm like wow and my friends are like oh my God what's happening so I managed to climb out of the water of the pool..."
Jessie outlines her quest for knowledge about health and nutrition, detailing her academic journey and professional experiences that led her to focus on glucose management as a key to better health.
"up learning was a broken back um which was super dangerous yeah through adrenaline everything was um just pumping and allowing me to do that 24 hours go by I don't know what's happening I'm at home wi..."
Jessie Inchauspé reflects on the importance of health, emphasizing how life can deteriorate without awareness of our body's needs. She shares her personal journey of understanding health after a tragic incident, highlighting the wealth of vitality we often overlook as we age.
"more difficulty and if you just got younger you know every year you'd be so grateful like oh my God like I'm getting you know I don't know my biceps back or my energy back or whatever and it's so trag..."
In this segment, Jessie explains her motivation for writing 'The Glucose Revolution.' She discusses her quest to understand how her body works and the pivotal role glucose plays in our health, leading her to explore its effects on mental well-being.
"you wrote a book called The glucose Revolution the life-changing power of balancing your blood sugar through that book last year why did you write a book about glucose of all the things in health and ..."
Jessie shares her academic journey from studying mathematics to biochemistry, and her work in genetics. She emphasizes that understanding how we live, eat, and move is crucial for our health, rather than solely relying on genetic information.
"glucose right it's so interesting essentially after having this realization that I needed to figure out how my body worked I went on like a quest you know with different chapters and so first chapter ..."
Jessie discusses her personal experiences with glucose spikes and their correlation with mental health issues. She describes how monitoring her blood sugar levels revealed the connection between her diet and mental well-being, marking a turning point in her health journey.
"bar you know the bar was quite low and even though DNA and studying it was interesting it actually your DNA doesn't give you a lot of information about what you need to do to feel good your DNA can te..."
In this segment, Jessie explains how she adopted the moniker 'Glucose Goddess' to make her message more relatable and memorable. She shares her journey of educating others about glucose management and its significance for overall health.
"that my mental health got worse when my glucose also known as blood sugar was not healthy steady and balanced I discovered that when my blood sugar levels were kind of like a roller coaster these epis..."
Jessie highlights the importance of glucose management for all individuals, not just those with diabetes. She discusses recent studies revealing that many people experience glucose spikes daily, emphasizing the need for awareness and education on this topic.
"goddess I know they call you yes yes exactly I wanted to find a catchy name after you know two years um talking about this on social media at first my account was just my name Jesse interest pay which..."
Jessie dives into the common symptoms associated with glucose spikes, such as cravings for sweet foods and energy fluctuations. She explains how these symptoms can affect daily life and the importance of recognizing them.
"that I could find I had like a thousand tabs open on my computer browser I just went really really really deep and I discovered some amazing things so first I discovered that I was not alone that most..."
In this segment, Jessie discusses the science behind sugar cravings and how they are linked to glucose spikes. She explains the physiological responses that lead to cravings and the cycle of sugar addiction that many experience.
"second I was like okay let's look at all the symptoms that are associated with these spikes from the scientific studies right so the most common symptoms of glucose spikes are things like cravings for..."
Jessie elaborates on how consuming sugar releases dopamine, the pleasure molecule, which contributes to cravings and addiction. She reassures listeners that these cravings are not a personal failing but a biological response to glucose fluctuations.
"for a cookie wow and then I can fall out of like a sugar cycle where um because I've not had sugar in a while I don't I don't want sugar yeah so what I'm asking there is does that Sugar craving how lo..."
Jessie emphasizes that the symptoms we experience, such as cravings and energy dips, are messages from our bodies. She encourages listeners to view these signals as opportunities to improve their health by managing glucose levels.
"now might have been caused usually by breakfast by the way by the breakfast that you had or the thing you ate a couple hours ago and I call that sort of starting the the sugar addiction cycle right so..."
Jessie discusses how modern diets contribute to glucose spikes and health issues. She explains the historical context of how fruits have been bred for sweetness and how this impacts our health today.
"but unfortunately when we don't realize that the way we're eating is causing some of these symptoms we might feel like our body is fighting us we might feel like oh my body hates me my body's always d..."
In this segment, Jessie shares her philosophy on sugar consumption. Rather than advocating for complete elimination, she suggests learning to enjoy sugar in a way that minimizes glucose spikes and supports overall health.
"that were going wrong one of them being my glucose levels so anyway yes I'm all right in thinking that my body is not built or designed for the world that it currently lives in and that's part of the ..."
Jessie outlines various symptoms of glucose imbalance, including cravings and fatigue. She emphasizes the importance of recognizing these signs to take proactive steps towards better health.
"we're going to get into yeah exactly how to do that I want to get a little bit back Upstream we were talking about the symptoms absolutely so we you've covered the Cravings um what other give me some ..."
Jessie explains the connection between glucose spikes and cognitive function. She discusses how glucose levels can lead to brain fog and long-term issues like dementia, highlighting the importance of glucose management for brain health.
"absolutely a better place to start no no I think symptoms is cool because most people will recognize a lot of these in their own lives so Cravings is the most common one then unsteady energy levels so..."
In this segment, Jessie discusses how glucose spikes can affect sleep quality. She emphasizes the importance of managing glucose levels for restful sleep and overall well-being.
"glucose levels so the brain if you want your brain to be an optimal top shape studying your glucose levels is really key what if I want to sleep like a baby yeah absolutely also so the more spikes you..."
Jessie highlights the link between glucose levels and hormonal health, particularly in relation to fertility and conditions like polycystic ovarian syndrome. She stresses the importance of balancing glucose for optimal hormonal function.
"and again the first place to look if you want to fix your hormones is balancing your glucose other stuff and there's a lot of symptoms here because glucose affects every single system in the body so t..."
Jessie introduces the concept of glycation, describing how glucose spikes accelerate aging both externally and internally. She uses the analogy of cooking to explain how our bodies age over time, emphasizing that managing glucose levels can slow down this process and improve overall health.
"inflammation now often happens against your own body or just like chronically at a low level and that causes many many many issues so it's a state of stress of the body and it happens in all of us it ..."
This segment delves into the consequences of glucose spikes, including mitochondrial stress and increased inflammation. Jessie explains how these spikes can lead to fatigue and long-term health issues, such as type 2 diabetes and heart disease, underscoring the importance of glucose management for overall well-being.
"break down and there's a funny uh image for this so from the moment you're born your body is slowly cooking you slowly cook let me explain like a chicken in the oven from the moment you're born and th..."
Jessie outlines the short-term and long-term symptoms associated with poor glucose management, including chronic fatigue, brain fog, and increased risk of serious conditions like cancer and Alzheimer's. She stresses that balancing glucose levels is foundational for improving both physical and mental health.
"if you currently feel if you're like I could I could feel better than I do you know which most of us probably feel then balancing your glucose levels is a really really freaking important place to sta..."
In this segment, Jessie uses a metaphor of flying a plane to illustrate how individuals can take control of their health by understanding glucose management. She emphasizes the importance of being proactive in managing glucose levels to improve health outcomes and reduce symptoms.
"so to summarize yeah this short and long term symptoms there that I've written down here short-term symptoms cons if you if we aren't able to flatten our glucose levels yeah then we Face the chance of..."
Jessie provides a straightforward explanation of glucose as the body's primary energy source. She discusses how glucose is derived from starchy and sweet foods, and the importance of moderation to avoid negative health effects associated with excessive glucose intake.
"point where you're kind of cruising and you're like okay I kind of have a handle on things my symptoms are kind of getting better so to me that's that's the way to think about it so this begs the ques..."
This segment explores the physiological effects of flooding the body with glucose, leading to spikes that can overwhelm the mitochondria. Jessie explains how this overload can cause stress and inflammation, ultimately impacting energy levels and overall health.
"important and the main way that us as human beings we give our body this important substance is through eating foods and specifically through eating two categories of foods starchy Foods so that's lik..."
Jessie discusses the role of insulin in managing glucose levels, explaining how it helps store excess glucose in the body. She highlights the short-term benefits and long-term risks associated with high insulin levels, including weight gain and potential links to fertility issues.
"that's why we feel all these symptoms so what's going on at a cellular level when I flood my body with glucose so there are three sort of main processes that I want to tell you about on this topic so ..."
In this segment, Jessie elaborates on how insulin affects weight gain and loss. She explains that high insulin levels can prevent fat loss by creating a one-way street for fat cells, making it difficult for the body to release stored fat.
"to handle so that's the first thing that happens and when you mitochondria breakdown it increases how much stress there is in your body and it increases that thing we talked about inflammation which i..."
Jessie connects glucose management to polycystic ovarian syndrome (PCOS), explaining how glucose spikes can exacerbate symptoms and hormonal imbalances. She shares success stories of individuals who have improved their PCOS symptoms through better glucose management.
"um something that we might want to talk about really fascinating topic is is that therefore conceivable you know I've got a friend that had um polycystic ovaries and um she said on a podcast that she ..."
In this segment, Jessie discusses how insulin affects weight gain and loss. She explains that high insulin levels can prevent fat cells from releasing stored fat, making weight loss difficult. Jessie emphasizes the importance of managing insulin levels to facilitate fat loss and improve overall health.
"takes the glucose and it's and by the way it's not really a drug it's like something your body makes but then you can also take it um as a drug if you have diabetes for example so this chemical insuli..."
Jessie elaborates on insulin resistance, explaining how chronic high insulin levels can lead to the body's decreased sensitivity to insulin, ultimately resulting in type 2 diabetes. She connects dietary choices to glucose spikes and the biochemical processes that lead to various health symptoms, emphasizing the body's messages regarding glucose management.
"foreign I think I get it now um is there anything that's like missing from that that picture you've painted for me I I Now understand the relationship between what I put in my mouth the impact that ha..."
In this segment, Jessie stresses the significance of understanding glucose spikes and their effects on the body. She reassures listeners that symptoms related to glucose fluctuations are not random but rather the body's way of signaling the need for dietary adjustments. This awareness is crucial for maintaining optimal health.
"alive but as a consequence of maybe some of the ways you're eating all these symptoms are taking place quick word from one of our sponsors I have to say I've been on a bit of a journey with this brand..."
Jessie introduces her '10 hacks' for managing glucose levels, starting with the first hack: eating food in the right order. She explains how the sequence of food consumption can significantly reduce glucose spikes, allowing individuals to enjoy their meals while minimizing negative health impacts.
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In this segment, Jessie details the optimal order for consuming food to minimize glucose spikes. She emphasizes starting with vegetables, followed by proteins and fats, and saving starches and sugars for last. This method can lead to a substantial reduction in glucose spikes without altering meal content.
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Jessie explains the role of fiber in managing glucose levels. By consuming fiber-rich vegetables first, individuals can create a protective barrier in the digestive tract that slows down glucose absorption, leading to smaller spikes. She encourages listeners to incorporate more veggies into their meals for better health outcomes.
"order is veggies first I should make a t-shirt veggies first proteins and fats second and starches and sugars last so let's take an example of a meal Maybe Stephen what's the typical meal you have and..."
Jessie shares practical tips for incorporating her glucose management strategies into everyday meals. She discusses the importance of having a veggie starter and how this simple change can significantly impact glucose levels. Jessie also addresses common eating habits and how to adjust them for better health.
"and how you're going to feel a lot of people when they do any do it very much in the opposite or in terms of like kind of they leave the veggies on the side of the plate you know I think when I was a ..."
In this segment, Jessie dives into the concept of calories, explaining their historical measurement and significance. She clarifies misconceptions about calories and discusses how they relate to food choices and health, emphasizing that understanding calories can help individuals make better dietary decisions.
"eat it at the beginning of a meal she does something absolutely amazing when she arrives first in your stomach and digestive tract she makes its way from your stomach to your upper intestine and there..."
Jessie Inchauspé provides a straightforward explanation of what calories are, describing them as a measure of heat required to break down food molecules. This segment emphasizes the importance of understanding calories beyond just a number, setting the stage for a deeper discussion on nutrition.
"yeah about that one well so what do you know about calories very little yeah that's fine but tell me and tell me like the what I what I think they are um or just generally like it's a it's a thing yes..."
In this segment, Jessie explains the historical method scientists used to measure calories by burning food in a controlled environment. She critiques the reductive nature of calorie counting, comparing it to judging books solely by their page count, and emphasizes the need to understand the nutritional content of food instead.
"you really should give yourself more credit because when before we started you were like I know nothing about food and biochemistry actually you know some pretty good I know from just like doing this ..."
Jessie argues against calorie counting, explaining that two people can consume the same number of calories but experience vastly different health outcomes based on glucose spikes. She advocates for focusing on balancing glucose levels instead of obsessing over calorie intake, highlighting the impact of food on overall health.
"so I want to teach people about the molecules in the food so they actually start recognizing like oh that food is going to make a spike that food is not and teaching them hacks so they can you know im..."
This segment delves into the complexities of weight management, discussing how calorie restriction may lead to weight loss but not necessarily improve health. Jessie emphasizes the importance of understanding how food affects the body and encourages listeners to adopt healthier eating habits without the stress of calorie counting.
"then you know restricting calories of course like if you go from 2 000 calories to I don't know how many but fewer than that you're essentially reducing how much you're eating right so yes it's possib..."
Jessie shares insights on the best breakfast choices for maintaining stable glucose levels. She recommends savory options rich in protein and healthy fats while cautioning against sweet breakfasts that can lead to energy crashes and glucose spikes throughout the day.
"calorie thing breakfast yeah what do you have for breakfast Stephen today yeah uh nothing yet today I I was going so I was actually I ordered food right to this this wonderful Studio here in London um..."
In this segment, Jessie discusses the differences between whole fruit and processed sugars, explaining how modern fruit has been bred for sweetness. She highlights the health benefits of consuming whole fruit while warning against the dangers of fruit juices and other processed forms that lack fiber.
"because of this bread I think the bread is probably going to make me have a dump and I don't ever want to have like a energy dump half with your comments I don't want to fall asleep you know that's ru..."
Jessie elaborates on the misconceptions surrounding fruit juice, explaining how it can lead to significant glucose spikes due to the absence of fiber. She compares the sugar content in fruit juice to that of soda, urging listeners to reconsider their beverage choices for better health.
"eat yeah yeah exactly you peel it but you know and then I showed her some of these pictures of these old bananas and they're like tiny and they're like full of seeds and stuff full of seeds and Tiny a..."
This segment emphasizes how breakfast choices can set the tone for the entire day. Jessie explains that a high-sugar breakfast can lead to a glucose roller coaster, affecting energy levels and overall well-being throughout the day.
"so when we eat fruit juice we have to do it in a way that's like okay this is dessert right this is for my pleasure this is not for my health this is gonna give me pleasure and make maybe make me feel..."
Jessie encourages listeners to avoid sweet breakfast options like granola and cereals, advocating for savory alternatives that promote better health. She shares practical examples of savory breakfasts that can help stabilize glucose levels and improve physical and mental health.
"to be doing for the rest of the day so what is a whole fruit a whole first is like a piece of fruit that is just oh you think just like not processed okay yeah like like something you can hold in your..."
In this segment, Jessie introduces one of her health hacks: drinking vinegar before meals. She explains how vinegar can reduce glucose and insulin spikes, making it a simple yet effective strategy for managing blood sugar levels.
"you have these 10 hacks in your book and um there was one in particular that I you know there was none of them that I thought I can do this and then there was this other one where I was like let me gu..."
Jessie discusses the cultural practice of walking after meals and its scientific benefits. She explains how moving after eating can help manage glucose levels and improve digestion, reinforcing the importance of lifestyle habits in maintaining health.
"which is important because you know insulin is also something we want to manage and you might be wondering like how the heck does that work well vinegar contains another cool molecule called acetic ac..."
In this segment, Jessie discusses the importance of moving after meals to manage glucose levels. She explains how muscle contractions require energy from glucose in the bloodstream, and simple activities like walking or calf raises can help utilize glucose effectively, preventing spikes. This culturally rooted practice is backed by science, making it a valuable addition to anyone's routine.
"I'll think about it um moving on hack eight after you eat move people say this you know they go for walks and stuff after like the Christmas meal or whatever but why why is that from a scientific pers..."
Jessie shares her strategies for maintaining stable glucose levels while traveling. She emphasizes the importance of not eating sugary foods on an empty stomach and suggests having protein-rich snacks before indulging in sweets. This approach helps mitigate glucose spikes and keeps energy levels steady during long flights.
"going to see me have this shot of vinegar and then sit here like I'm like I'm like there's something yeah but then they're gonna be like damn Stephen is doing so great look he's 65 and still kayaking ..."
Jessie outlines her ideal daily eating routine, emphasizing savory breakfasts and balanced meals. She discusses the importance of protein and fiber to maintain energy levels and shares her hacks for enjoying sweet treats without the negative effects on glucose. This segment provides actionable insights for anyone looking to improve their dietary habits.
"have a really really good Savory breakfast even if I'm not hungry before I leave for the plane so I have like my favorite like two egg omelet with feta and tomatoes it's my favorite thing to make what..."
In this enlightening discussion, Jessie clarifies the misconception that sugar provides energy. She explains that while sugar can give a temporary dopamine boost, it does not equate to sustained energy. This segment challenges common beliefs about sugar consumption and encourages listeners to rethink their dietary choices for better health.
"need to be really good about my Savory breakfast today so I just had that so going back then to my breakfast today yeah ahead of doing this podcast you know these podcasts sometimes last you know two ..."
Jessie reflects on her personal health journey after breaking her back at 19. She expresses gratitude for her healing process and the importance of sharing her knowledge about glucose management. This heartfelt segment highlights the emotional aspects of health and the desire to help others through their struggles.
"feeling now you've obviously been on a health journey of your own but where did you find yourself today man I am so grateful today because for example you know I'm on this trip now and I'm staying in ..."
Jessie discusses the difficulty of recognizing and addressing the emotional struggles of loved ones, particularly parents. She describes the chronic nature of their sadness and the importance of connection and purpose in combating these feelings, likening it to psychological inflammation.
"so I'm gonna write him a letter this doesn't make me want to do it because he's still around and alive so I love it so yeah not too late okay second question tell me something you have never told anyo..."
The conversation shifts to the lack of tools many people, especially men, have for expressing emotions and vulnerability. Jessie emphasizes the importance of having these tools to navigate life's challenges and how therapeutic conversations can be medicinal.
"well yesterday I spoke to my dad on the phone and you seemed sad hmm and I mean that made me sad and I just want him to be happy that's all I can think of you sounded sad yeah yeah he doesn't talk a l..."
The host and Jessie discuss the significance of asking vulnerable questions and how it can facilitate deeper conversations. They highlight the role of conversation cards in prompting meaningful dialogue and removing the agenda from discussions.
"know not there you have a suspicion why he's sad don't you like a deeper suspicion yeah I think life is a little bit rough on him right now and um I think a combination of lots of stuff I'm not sure l..."
In a poignant moment, the host poses a hypothetical question about what one would say to a cherished person if they had only 60 seconds left. Jessie reflects on her relationship with her mother, expressing gratitude and love, and the sadness that comes with the thought of loss.
"yeah and it's like almost quite chronic isn't it like a lot of the subject matter we've talked about today like inflammation it's almost like a psychological inflammation that when you you know they g..."
The conversation wraps up with the host acknowledging Jessie's impactful work in health awareness, particularly regarding glucose management. They discuss the misconceptions surrounding glucose and the importance of understanding its effects on health, encouraging listeners to explore Jessie's book.
"know maybe it's just because you know that's my own experience of things but I think those tools are most absent in men yeah typically you know those tools about expression and opening up and vulnerab..."
Jessie introduces her new book, 'The Glucose Goddess Method,' which serves as a practical guide to implementing the science discussed in her previous book. She outlines the actionable steps readers can take to improve their health, emphasizing the importance of making informed dietary choices.
"it's different from me just asking you those questions versus you selecting one and it being on this sort of Middle Ground enamel object is because it removes the agenda yeah from the question exactly..."