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Reid Hoffman Interview with Mark Suster | Upfront Summit 2019
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Reid Hoffman (Greylock Partners, Co-Founder of LinkedIn, and author of Blitzscaling) sits down with Mark Suster for a wide-ranging discussion on the blitzscaling model; how startups should think about customer success and global impact; AI, the US and China; and the companies that are exciting him today.
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Introducing Blitzscaling
Reid Hoffman introduces the concept of blitzscaling, emphasizing its core principle of prioritizing speed over efficiency in uncertain environments. He explains that this approach often requires startups to operate inefficiently in order to achieve rapid growth and scale, likening it to a competitive race where the first to scale wins.
"what a pleasure it is to welcome Reid Hoffman to the stage I think probably people introduce you as the founder of LinkedIn all the time but I also want to introduce you as full-time venture capital p..."
The Tension Between Growth and Profit
Hoffman discusses the inherent tension between growth and profitability in startups. He explains that while pursuing profits can slow growth, extraordinary actions can free up capital markets to support rapid scaling. He emphasizes the necessity of 'blitz capital' for successful blitzscaling, which often comes from investors willing to take significant risks.
"own words what blitzscaling is so the first sentence will seem very geeky and then I will unpack it it's prioritizing speed over efficiency in an environment of uncertainty and what that means is actu..."
Investor Beliefs and Market Position
In this segment, Hoffman highlights the importance of having the right investors who believe in the extraordinary market potential of a startup. He explains that the speed to scale is crucial, and that founders must focus on convincing a select few investors rather than trying to win over everyone.
"that book is about a set of the techniques that I've seen developed in Silicon Valley and also of course China so let's unpack blitzscaling a bit I like to tell most founders that I work with is there..."
Ethics in Blitzscaling
Hoffman addresses the ethical implications of blitzscaling, acknowledging the tension between rapid growth and responsible business practices. He discusses the need for startups to identify and manage risks that could negatively impact employees, customers, and society, advocating for a responsible approach to blitzscaling.
"successful businesses I've seen even in companies growing at superhuman rates when we talk to downstream investors that are used to more rational metrics from public markets that are increasingly in t..."
AI: Hope and Concern
Hoffman shares his dual perspective on AI, viewing it as both a source of hope and concern for humanity. He emphasizes the importance of steering technological advancements towards positive outcomes while addressing potential job displacement and ethical governance.
"blitzscaling which is to start figuring out what are the risks that actually in fact could have a really bad impact on individuals or on a group of people or on society and then as you're building bec..."
Governance and Technology
In this segment, Hoffman discusses the role of good governance in managing the societal impacts of technology, particularly AI. He reflects on the need for informed policies and governance structures to navigate the transition to a more automated society, drawing parallels to historical shifts during the Industrial Revolution.
"AI yes there's really two schools there's all the big companies investing in it Google Facebook Twitter otherwise and then there's Elon yes and Elon seems to be worried about the ethical implications ..."
The Future of Robotics
Hoffman shares his thoughts on robotics and automation, expressing optimism about their potential benefits in factory settings. He acknowledges the challenges posed by advanced robotics, including ethical concerns, while advocating for a balanced approach to integrating these technologies into society.
"so Elon and I argue every so often on this topic although we also as part of those discussions and arguments help step open AI to try to actually be one of the catalytic forces within so Elon Zaman so..."
The Future of Robotics
In this segment, Hoffman shares his views on robotics and factory automation, arguing that while automation may reduce the number of workers per unit of output, it can still create more jobs overall. He addresses concerns about military robots and emphasizes the need for regulation, while expressing greater concern about cyber warfare and AI.
"create a policy yeah so yes in theory and maybe maybe that theory is 20/20 okay well thank you to read for all he does to have good governance in our country robots Boston Dynamics I think everyone's ..."
Big Tech and Global Competition
Hoffman discusses the implications of breaking up large tech companies like Facebook and Twitter. He argues that such actions could lead to the rise of even larger foreign competitors, emphasizing the need for these companies to consider society as a customer and to invest in technologies that promote positive social impacts.
"one of the first things they say is well are you talking about American robots Chinese robots are German robots which which robots are you talking about and part of the reason I asked that question is..."
Navigating the Challenges of Big Platforms
Hoffman elaborates on the responsibilities of big tech platforms to address societal issues, such as hate speech and misinformation. He suggests that these platforms can leverage their resources to create a more positive discourse and improve societal outcomes, rather than simply focusing on individual user behavior.
"of turmoil a lot of concerns about like my my model you know taking the blitzscaling models once these companies get to a certain size they also should now add society as a customer and how do you do ..."
The Multipolar World of Technology
In this segment, Hoffman reflects on the global landscape of technology, highlighting the challenges posed by foreign competitors like China's WeChat. He stresses the importance of having robust tech companies in the U.S. to maintain the ability to influence and improve societal discourse.
"tone which you can both do by investing in the technology which is very expensive applying it across a wide range of discourse which then has a positive kind of social impact now on the other side on ..."
The Future of Autonomous Vehicles
Hoffman shares insights on the future of autonomous vehicles, discussing the potential benefits of reducing accidents and improving road safety. He acknowledges the challenges of transitioning to a world with fewer human drivers and emphasizes the importance of safety technologies in this evolution.
"have to rethink about these things as not that there shouldn't be some way of saying look we are as society or customer you need to help make our society and other societies better you need to figure ..."
AI and the Future of Driving
In this segment, Hoffman responds to a premise about China's approach to autonomous driving, considering the implications of switching entire provinces to AI-driven vehicles. He explores the potential impact on safety and the need for careful consideration of algorithmic decision-making in driving.
"perspective on how the industry takes where's it going to go so so actually one of my investments at grow up is a company called natto which is how do you make driving safer for humans okay in additio..."
China's AI Leapfrog Strategy
Hoffman shares insights from a conversation with Kai-Fu Lee about China's potential to leapfrog the U.S. in AI technology. He discusses how China might leverage vast amounts of data and fewer regulations to accelerate AI development, particularly in autonomous driving. The segment raises concerns about the ethical implications of prioritizing efficiency over safety in AI advancements.
"that no no it's it's helping the driver how good she's helping that so let's combine AI and autonomous vehicles yesterday we had Caillou Lea present talking about the future of AI I met with Kai foo a..."
Balancing AI Development and Safety
In this segment, Hoffman reflects on the need for a balanced approach to AI development that prioritizes human safety over competitive advantages. He discusses the importance of collaboration between U.S. and Chinese tech companies and emphasizes the role of ethical considerations in shaping the future of AI technologies.
"tracking your face everywhere you go social stories if you are looking to get papers and you're a mine order like the Weger is you have to do a 360 headshot and a gait analysis so they can look at any..."
Housing Challenges in the Bay Area
Hoffman addresses the housing crisis in the San Francisco Bay Area, highlighting the impact of high housing costs on talent retention in the tech industry. He advocates for building taller buildings and increasing affordable housing options, while critiquing local policies that hinder development due to NIMBYism (Not In My Backyard).
"right and so there's been a set of efforts that I've been working on that open AI is one of them and I think it's you know as per the earlier thing about steering to utopia and away from this topia th..."
Emerging Innovation Hubs
Hoffman shares his excitement for innovation hubs beyond Silicon Valley, mentioning cities like Los Angeles, New York, Seattle, and Toronto. He discusses the potential of these markets to attract talent and foster entrepreneurship, particularly in light of changing immigration policies that may benefit Canada.
"challenging for all the people and not the tech industry and you you know pain and tensions there one of the things about the housing in the Bay Area that I find so frustrating is there's actually a w..."
Canada's Welcoming Approach to Tech Talent
In this segment, Hoffman praises Canada's immigration policies that encourage tech talent to build businesses in the country. He contrasts this with the U.S. approach and emphasizes the importance of creating an inclusive environment for innovation. The discussion touches on the need for political mobilization to support favorable policies for technology and entrepreneurship.
"definitely like LA otherwise like you know my times under yes my times in demand I wouldn't be here otherwise thank you that's part of the reason I was delighted to accept I would say that in the US I..."
Greylock's Focus on Emerging Technologies
Hoffman outlines Greylock's investment strategy, focusing on consumer and enterprise technologies. He highlights the importance of identifying less obvious technology areas that are ripe for innovation, such as enterprise solutions that can scale rapidly. The segment emphasizes the firm's commitment to supporting groundbreaking startups.
"you okay I would love that I would totally love that focused in 2020 yeah what was it they said now now look I would love that but yeah you know I've been reading the writings of Thomas Friedman who's..."
The Future of Crypto and Blockchain
Hoffman shares insights on the evolution of cryptocurrency and blockchain technology. He discusses the potential of these technologies to create new platforms for value exchange and their implications for the future of venture capital.
"then when we get to emerging tech which is how we think about you can think of a frontier tech deep tech there's all kinds of different words in addition to AI and IV we also look at crypto a lot with..."
The Changing Landscape of Venture Capital
Hoffman analyzes the current state of venture capital, noting the influx of capital into the industry and its implications for startups. He discusses the challenges of funding in a competitive environment and the importance of selective investment.
"we're kind of paying attention all the other areas and of course in the crypto realm we started all obsessed with Bitcoin and aetherium and then it kind of broke where you had like crypto currency and..."
Advancing Gender Parity in Venture Capital
Hoffman addresses the progress and challenges of gender parity in venture capital. He highlights recent improvements in hiring practices while acknowledging the need for continued efforts to achieve true diversity and inclusion in the industry.
"for society a very good thing it makes our jobs more difficult that's true and so it's less easy for us and that's because you know the problem is you get this compression over funding of companies mo..."
Standing Against Predatory Practices
Hoffman recounts his response to predatory behavior in the venture capital space, emphasizing the importance of standing up against such practices. He shares his experience of rallying support for a diversity pledge and the collective responsibility of the industry.
"I think that's the good news right the bad news is it's still most often you say well okay that that you know you you list out a bunch of inter firms and it's like well have between zero and one you k..."