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The truth about Sam Altman. AI Critic Karen Hao reveals what 90 OpenAI employees told her. Karen Hao is an AI expert, award-winning investigative journalist, and former reporter for The Wall Street Journal covering American and Chinese tech companies. She is also co-host of the podcast The Interface and freelances for publications like More Perfect Union and The Atlantic. Her latest book is the bestselling ‘EMPIRE OF AI: Inside The Reckless Race For Total Domination.’ She explains: ◼️Why the US-China “AI arms race” may be misleading and politically driven ◼️Why AGI is a marketing scam used to consolidate trillion-dollar power ◼️The hidden human cost behind AI training 00:00 Intro 02:47 Why Some Insiders Say AI Is Driven More By Profit Than Progress 05:08 What 250 OpenAI Insiders Revealed Behind Closed Doors 11:07 Did Sam Altman Really Outmaneuver Elon Musk? 15:06 What People Get Wrong About Sam Altman 17:53 The Power Struggle: Who Tried To Oust Sam Altman—And Why 25:33 The Real Reason Tech Giants Are Racing To Build AI 31:55 Do AI CEOs Actually Believe This Will Help Humanity? 33:28 Why OpenAI Refused To Be Part Of This Book 00:41:27 Why Sam Altman Was Forced Out 00:44:58 The Hidden Instability, What Was Altman Actually Disrupting Internally? 51:13 Ad Break 54:35 What Really Happened When Sam Altman Was Fired—And Why Employees Revolted 01:05:10 Should You Trust Politicians To Regulate AI—Or Is That Riskier? 01:12:49 How Robots Updating Themselves Could Change Everything Overnight 01:15:30 Will AI Surpass The Best Surgeons—And What Happens If It Does? 01:18:27 Are Self-Driving Cars Truly Safe 01:24:45 Which Jobs Actually Survive AI And Who Gets Left Behind? 01:35:23 What Klarna’s CEO Sees Coming That Others Don’t 01:38:28 Ad Break 01:42:17 What AI Could Cost Us: Meaning, Health, And The Environment 01:51:12 How We Can Build AI Safely Before It’s Too Late 01:56:24 Will The AI Race Ever Slow Down Or Are We Past The Point Of Control? Enjoyed the episode? Share this link and earn points for every referral - redeem them for exclusive prizes: https://doac-perks.com Follow Karen: X - https://link.thediaryofaceo.com/7MVVs8B Website - https://link.thediaryofaceo.com/ARHB0mk You can purchase ‘EMPIRE OF AI: Inside the reckless race for total domination’, here: https://link.thediaryofaceo.com/CcrcHj2 The Diary Of A CEO: ◼️Join DOAC circle here - https://doaccircle.com/ ◼️Buy The Diary Of A CEO book here - https://smarturl.it/DOACbook ◼️The 1% Diary is back - limited time only: https://bit.ly/3YFbJbt ◼️The Diary Of A CEO Conversation Cards (Second Edition): https://g2ul0.app.link/f31dsUttKKb ◼️Get email updates - https://bit.ly/diary-of-a-ceo-yt ◼️Follow Steven - https://g2ul0.app.link/gnGqL4IsKKb Sponsors: Wispr - Get 14 days of Wispr Flow for free at https://wisprflow.ai/steven Pipedrive - https://pipedrive.com/CEO Saily - Download from the app store and use code DOAC at the checkout for 15% off
"So much of what's happening today in the AI industry is extremely inhumane. >> But this is me playing devil's advocate. And logically, it could be the case that the civilization that accelerate their ..."
"Karen, how you've written this book in front of me here called Empire of AI: Dreams and Nightmares in Sam Alman's Open AI. I guess my first question is what is the research and the journey you went on..."
"in it. >> A very timely time to start working in artificial intelligence. For anyone that doesn't know, this is pre OpenAI chat GPT launch moment that shook the world. But in writing this book, you in..."
"was using at the time, it mirrors all the things that Musk was saying >> identical. I mean, 10 years ago, Musk was going on podcast saying, tweeting, whatever, that the greatest existential risk to hu..."
">> So, it sounds like Sam again managed to persuade someone to do something. >> Mhm. >> I guess this begs the question, what do you think of Sam Orman? >> I think he's a very controversial figure. >> ..."
">> You mentioned Dario there and I found it really what I found really interesting is to look at how people's quotes evolve over time with their incentives. So I was looking at all of the all of the t..."
">> So why are they doing it? I mean, you've interviewed all these people. I think it's what, 300 people in total, 80 or 90 of them from OpenAI, the maker of CHACHBC. Why do you think they're doing it?..."
"AI companies believe that the outcome is going to be all good now? Do you think they think that it's going to be it's going to serve everyone? It's going to be the age of abundance. Everything's going..."
"Vance on OpenAI. Um he went on to say no book will get everything right especially when some people are so intent on twisting things but these two authors are trying to you quote retweeted that tweet ..."
"what I see are the facts being presented to me irrespective of whether the company likes it or not. And most often the company really does not like it but >> I can continue to do the work. They don't ..."
"members like the problem will not be fixed unless Alman is removed because of the way that he's pitting teams against each other and creating this environment where people are unable to trust each oth..."
">> This company that I've just invested in, it's grown like crazy. I want to be the one to tell you about it because I think it's going to create such a huge productivity advantage for you. Whisper Fl..."
"manifested. He ended up not coming back and Miriam Marotti then left shortly thereafter. >> Quite a lot of these people leave, don't they? Open AAI >> they do. So if you consider one of the origin sto..."
">> Those people, they can go to the polls, right? So, if the public are sufficiently educated, they can go to the polls and pick a leader that says they're going to legislate or pass laws or try and p..."
"robot learns one thing in one factory they all learn it and imagine that imagine if humans if we all learned what all the other humans learned that would be that would give us such an unbelievable com..."
">> And I heard Elon say that if you're a surgeon, there's just no point. He was like, don't train to be a surgeon. He says in a couple of years time, Optimus and AI generally are going to be better th..."
"about statistical engines is that it's based on probabilities. It's not based on deterministic logic. So systems make errors all the time and it's impossible. It is technically impossible to get them ..."
"slowdown in hiring across especially white collar professional industries. And you saw Anthropic's report the new this week. The TLDDR is it matches kind of what you were saying where they Anthropic l..."
"actually just called me. >> Hello, Sebastian. You're right. >> Hey, how are you? >> I'm good. How are you? It's been a while. >> It has been a while since you're on the show. I was just saying we do n..."
">> You know the little traditional SIM card that goes inside of our phones. They haven't changed at all since they were invented in the '90s. You have this physical piece of plastic that means you're ..."
"people that were literally typing into a large language model and showing it. This is how you're supposed to then respond when a user types in a prompt like this. Before they did that work, chatgbt di..."
">> But objectively, do you think that the job disruption that they talk about where >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean I I mentioned >> real >> well I >> I don't want to comment specifically on like this chart but..."
"data that has amino acid sequences and protein folding. So that means you need significantly less computational resources to develop the system, which means significantly less energy, which means less..."