"not really ever spoke about it in depth like this. Nothing prepares you in life for those kind of situations, but I felt like I'd failed at the time. That's the truth. And it's still something that I'..."

"So, your your mother played, I guess, several roles in your life. Yeah, my mom was always really good at that. I think she realized the fact that my dad wasn't going to be around that she had to play ..."

"And you had siblings? Yeah. Lots of them. Yeah. Lots of them. So when when I grew up, like kind of like the bulk of my childhood, there was seven of us living in a three bed house. I've got a little b..."

"I I was fortunate enough to speak to quite a few people that um have known you over the years. I heard that was cool. That was cool. Yeah. And I was uh I was just listening to some of the the recordin..."

"So, you deal with the audition where you sang make you feel my love. That was boot camp. So that was the second part of the audition. Um my first audition was a song called Hey There Delila. Did nothi..."

"Factor as a as a band when you put together and then you signed at 19 years old to Simon Cow's Psycho Music. And it's crazy because when I think about you signing at 19 years old and I think about wha..."

"time. I find it so fascinating that you talk about this, this idea of you being having the the minerals or the personality where you would push back against the system a little bit because when I spok..."

"How does things like alcohol play into this? Because you're you're living a crazy crazy life where your dopamine and your your brain is being tested in all different ways. I remember Liam saying to me..."

"If you could go back to the day that you signed the contract with Psycho, what is the advice that 33y old Louie would give 18 19year-old Louie? Such a that is a really really big question. I I I think..."

"credit there. You really struggled with that? I found it um I found it really tough. So like like as I said before like I was the kid who won the lottery. Like I I sang my first audition um for the X ..."

"When did you realize that it didn't? When I joined Psycho on my own, so this is after the band, you sign of sorry. So the band the band split up and uh now I didn't have my pick of record labels. It w..."

"One of the um one of the things people don't talk about is the impact that your success has on everyone else back here in Doncaster, including including your mom. I spoke to your sister Lotty, one of ..."

"this family type. And you were on an absolute rocket ship up until you're sort of you must mean what sort of 23 24 years old when the band origin announces that it's breaking apart in March that year...."

"It's funny. Yeah. You know, I've heard you say that you didn't you weren't prepared for the success of One Direction, but you also weren't prepared for the end of One Direction. Oh no. And you describ..."

"What happens in that meeting? What what's said? Is it Simon saying something? Is it the boys? Is it representatives? It was us boys, which was great. Um, always how it should be like that, obviously. ..."

"wrong way. Makes sense. And then it ends and uh your life goes from absolutely crazy to less crazy. Yeah. It's something it's still something that I'm unpacking still to be honest and still trying to ..."

"And that's why I've always found it quite unrealistic to like not like to not compare the two. I I completely agree with that cuz they you cannot compare them. The two being One Direction and my own s..."

"Did I ever tell you about the uh data breach that we had at my previous company? Yeah, I remember hearing about that, which which um was a total nightmare. So, I'm glad that we now use one password. W..."

"I I've never found more photographs of a person's life in my life. And I mean, cute. Nice little denim jacket. What do you think when you see that photo? It looks like Yeah, it reminds me of a nice ti..."

"And I have these these beautiful pictures of your beautiful mother. Oh, yeah. They're lovely. I love this one. I love this one. This is cute. Real cute. Yeah. Yeah, I got I got the very similar pictur..."

"When did you hear that she was sick? I got friendly with a footballer called Jamie Vardy and he'd invited me to his wedding. So, I was I was at the wedding and now it it was like the party afterwards ..."

"She she passes. Um because you don't have a your biological father isn't around. You're very much at that point, you know, you're the in some respects you're the father of lots of siblings cuz you're ..."

"And and how how does how does a young man grieve the loss of his mother at such a young age? Everyone obviously everyone everyone's grief is completely individual. So then I found out more recently, p..."

"anxiety with life and a certain worry for life that you know if the foundations are uncertain and bad news can arrive at any moment one would you know that seems like the the breeding ground of worry ..."

"Couple years after the passing of your mother, you lose your younger sister, Felicity. And the circumstances of her her death are um deeply deeply tragic. When I was speaking to several people in your..."

"an unthinkable tragedy for for one person to go through in their life, but for you to go through two of these things in succession is I mean, I don't have the words. Yeah, that was that was kind of wh..."

"you know, I actually learned this from um being around, funny enough, being around Liam. Um, when someone is struggling with their with their own demons, per se, unless you've been around someone who'..."

"I've alluded to some of this stuff in the past, not not really ever spoke about it in depth like this. And part of the reason for that is, and this is the correct forum and it makes sense, but part of..."

"And the the other thing that that connects us is it was Liam and I think it would have been Liam's birthday a couple of days ago. Yeah, his birthday was 3 days off mine. So, his 29th of August, I beli..."

"And often times people maliciously misunderstood him which was hard. You know it's hard. I don't know how I don't know if I have the right words for this but if you knew Liam Payne and then you went o..."

""Is there anything else that you you've been meaning to say?" It's a great provocative question that is always right. No, no, there is. There is. There is. Um, well, we should we should we should talk..."

"He came to you in California, didn't he? Yeah. when you performed out. Yeah, that was amazing, man. It was so amazing. I did something at 24 years old that has had a profound impact on my life. I set ..."

"music. Yeah. Which I'm very excited to talk about. So, you've been working on this album. And I think what's the important context we've had is I'm curious to know how much everything we've talked abo..."

"And how much does love come into all of this? As I said, I'm I'm like deeply deeply romantic person. Um it also it's also easy to be romantic when you're a creative. You know, those two things are jus..."

"Where are you in your journey of happiness? Like if you had to plot plot your plot your life on a timeline of like, you know. Oh, I like that cuz I've never really thought about that like thought abou..."