"the following is a conversation with yaran brook and yoram hazoni this is iran's third time on this podcast in yoram's first time euron brook is an objectivist philosopher chairman of the iran institu..."

"i attended the excellent debate between the two of you yesterday ut austin the debate was between ideas of conservatism represented by yoramazoni and ideas of individualism represented by yaran brook ..."

"so iran you say that uh history is interesting but perhaps not crucial if in in the context of individualism no i mean i think i think there's a false dichotomy he presented here and and that is that ..."

"the conservative complaint or accusation against uh uh rationalists i mean as opposed to empiricism using rationalism let's take you know let's take descartes kind of as a as a benchmark you'll also m..."

"can we walk back to uh criticism of communism you're both critics of communism socialism why did communism fail you started to say that conservatives criticize it on the basis of like rationalism that..."

"side view marx as as one more collectivists in in a whole string of collectivists uh you know and and i think i think the the the bismarck in response which bismarck i mean i know less about israeli s..."

"tradition even the conservatives have always acknowledged and it goes back to you especially the conservatives yes the conservatives were there first they they acknowledged well you've you've defined ..."

"the founding fathers of the united states are they um individualists or are they conservatives so in this particular revolution that founded this country at the core of which are some fascinating some..."

"individualism but let me ask the beatles and the rolling stones question about the declaration of independence in the constitution what well because it's like which document beetles are all which docu..."

"i think this is a good place to ask about common welfare and cohesion let me uh say what john don wrote that quote no man is an island entire of itself every man is a piece of the continent a part of ..."

"uh so you kind of said this primary the individuals is primary i know as a great invention but to me it's not at all obvious that somehow that uh the invention that humans have been practicing for a v..."

"can ask you a question there uh can you make an argument for turn the other cheek no i i tend to i guess you would equate that with altruism i tend to uh injustice it's unjustified now that you all ri..."

"country which is uh is approaching uh one birth per woman in other words half of the minimum necessary for for replacement you can say whatever you want whatever you want about immigration we can have..."

"you wrote the book the virtue of nationalism contrasting nation states with empires and with global governance like united nations and so on so uh you argue that nationalism uniquely provides the quot..."

"about his ideas and i don't want to talk about ein rand but i want to say something just just one one thing about iron ranch uh all my kids all my kids read ayn rand's books my father read the fountai..."

"given how many difficult aspects of history and society we've talked about let me ask a hard question of both of you breathe up until now yeah what gives you hope about the future so we've been descri..."

"we grow up like that and um [Music] you know so so i i do have hope i i see the trends the trends are terrible right now and uh and and and and it's frightening and it's hard but we are terrible at se..."

"some more arenas and maybe we even agree with a lot of them and i i on a lot of them to be human is to inherit a world which is imperfect terribly imperfect and perfect in many ways and uh and and god..."

"direction rather than the way we found so nudge even if a little bit the direction of the world well uh you're you're on uh you've actually been talking on your program about life quite a bit uh so le..."

"live i mean one of the things that i i see and and that saddens me is is wasted lives it's people who just just cruise through life they just they just they get bored they get born in a particular pla..."

"experience it fully and and challenge yourself and push yourself and and let me just say something about optimism about you know one source of hope for me in the world in which we live right now is th..."

"still alive and well yeah they inspire me as well yeah and they truly live with the capital l and maybe i can do an uh star maybe you can also put a little bit of love with the capital l out there as ..."