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David Harewood is an award-winning actor, star of Supergirl and Homeland, and best-selling author behind Maybe I Don’t Belong Here, one of the best-reviewed and best-selling books of 2021. Topics: 0:00 Intro 02:10 Early years 10:18 Racism 21:39 Your fathers illness 30:16 Social rejection from everyone 40:51 What would you have had to change inorder to not be sectioned? 46:19 The night you got sectioned 53:14 Being sectioned: Biology vs experiences 57:29 The time being being sectioned and back to acting 01:03:11 Opening up about your breakdown 01:17:44 Where are you now? 01:22:03 Why you? 01:28:17 Your production company 01:29:52 The last guests question David: Instagram: https://bit.ly/3CLLi9F Twitter: https://bit.ly/3MmT5xQ David's book: https://amzn.to/3RI13m4 Wait list for The Diary - Add your name here: bit.ly/3fUcF8q Join this channel to get access to perks: https://bit.ly/3Dpmgx5 Listen on: Apple podcast - https://apple.co/3TTvxDf Spotify - https://spoti.fi/3VX3yEw Follow: Instagram: https://bit.ly/3CXkF0d Twitter: https://bit.ly/3ss7pM0 Linkedin: https://bit.ly/3z3CSYM Telegram: https://g2ul0.app.link/SBExclusiveCommunity Sponsors: BlueJeans - https://g2ul0.app.link/NCgpGjVNKsb Huel - https://g2ul0.app.link/G4RjcdKNKsb
David Harewood shares a chilling moment from his life when he felt compelled to follow a voice in his head, illustrating the depths of his mental health struggles. He reflects on how this voice could have led him to a tragic end, emphasizing the severity of his psychosis.
"I did everything that voice told me to do that night had that voice have told me to jump off Thames Bridge I would have done it please welcome David"
In this introduction, David Harewood is welcomed to the show, setting the stage for a deep dive into his experiences with race and mental health. The conversation promises to explore his unique perspective as a prominent black actor.
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David reflects on his early years, discussing his naivety and the conflicting messages he received about his identity. He shares how the lack of representation of black individuals in media shaped his self-perception and contributed to his struggles.
"it's U.S drama home the most influential voices on race and mental health I remember reading about a moment when you come home you find your father's typewriter with one word written on the typewriter..."
Harewood discusses the ferocious hostility he faced as a young black actor, detailing how negative media portrayals affected his self-image. He emphasizes the stress and overthinking that spiraled into his mental health crisis.
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David elaborates on the expectations placed on him as the first black actor in a significant role, revealing the pressure he felt and how it contributed to his mental health decline. He describes the moment he fell into psychosis.
"foreign [Music] what do I have to understand about your"
In a poignant recount, David shares the night he was sectioned, detailing the surreal experience of being taken away in a police wagon. He reflects on the flashing lights and the fear that accompanied this pivotal moment in his life.
"what do I have to understand about your very earliest years to understand the man you are this perspective you"
David expresses gratitude for surviving his mental health crisis, acknowledging how close he came to losing his life. This segment highlights the importance of mental health awareness and the struggles many face in silence.
"the man you are this perspective you have and the work you do today what is the most important context wow that's an interesting question what do I need to what do you need to know"
David discusses his family dynamics, particularly the contrasting personalities of his parents. He reflects on how their relationship and upbringing influenced his understanding of love, affection, and identity.
"about me then um that I was probably naive open innocent uh and probably more"
Harewood shares his experiences growing up in a predominantly white environment, discussing the challenges of assimilating and the impact of societal racism on his identity formation.
"um probably more conflicted than I thought I was I I was a vessel and into that vessel was just been poured so much I'll say false information wrong information that um at some point it had to"
David reflects on the emotional distance in his family, particularly with his father. He discusses how this lack of affection shaped his own parenting style and the importance of expressing love to his children.
"at some point it had to smash break I grew up at a time when there weren't many black people on television and there weren't many black images that on television or anywhere and I think I think that i..."
David delves into the historical context of racism in Britain during the 60s and 70s, sharing personal anecdotes that highlight the pervasive hostility faced by black individuals during that era.
"false false picture uh has only recently emerged does that make sense not entirely unless I get further context what was the picture of yourself you grew up with I would say you know I just think I wa..."
In this segment, David discusses the psychological impact of being 'othered' in society. He shares his experiences of fear and anxiety growing up as a black child in a racially charged environment.
"way too that's hard that's a really interesting question I had really thought about that but I think it's only it's only in recently recent years and having asked myself some of the questions that I'v..."
David recounts a traumatic childhood incident involving a brick thrown through his window, symbolizing the violence and racism he faced. He reflects on how such experiences shaped his worldview.
"I don't think my color was important and that's why I say I was naive I didn't think my color was that important I had no concept of myself as a sort of young black man and that's why I say I grew up ..."
David describes his mother's calm demeanor in the face of violence, contrasting it with the fear that permeated their home life. He reflects on her strength and the lessons he learned from her resilience.
"my you know I I heard the one I heard the phrase one time you're not black you're normal which is so bizarre so that your identity as a black person was sort of ironed out you you just you just you're..."
In this segment, David discusses the anxiety that accompanied his childhood experiences, emphasizing the constant vigilance required to navigate a world filled with racial hostility.
"think and the world said to me you're black it was a real sort of wake-up call for me and seriously contributed to what happened two years after I left going back to your your mother and your father h..."
David reflects on how the fear instilled in him during childhood has influenced his adult life. He discusses the lasting impact of racism and the importance of addressing these issues.
"really uh very proud um didn't really speak much didn't really um it wasn't wasn't particularly involved in our education wasn't particularly involved in shaping who we were you know he was very much ..."
David shares how he learned to embrace vulnerability and express emotions, contrasting his upbringing with his current parenting style. He emphasizes the importance of emotional connection.
"sit and what's the telly and in peace and just you know I often tried to talk to him when I was a kid but he he was a very difficult man to sort of open up um whereas my mother was my mother was alway..."
David discusses the significance of representation in media and how it affects identity formation for young black individuals. He reflects on the need for diverse narratives in storytelling.
"that she used to you know some of the fights that she had some of the battles that she had when I was writing my book you know as I said we were the only black family on that street and she was consta..."
In this segment, David shares his journey towards self-acceptance and understanding his identity as a black man. He emphasizes the importance of confronting and embracing one's heritage.
"your father um you write a lot about how hard working he was um the the lack of affection you've described there the lack of openness um as you look back now was there a is there was that was there a ..."
David reflects on the transformative power of storytelling in his life. He discusses how sharing his experiences has helped him heal and connect with others facing similar struggles.
"the fact that he didn't that's difficult because it feels as like I'm criticizing him and I don't really want to do that but I think it was a loving home there was a lot of laughter in the house but t..."
David discusses how art and acting have served as outlets for his emotions and experiences. He emphasizes the therapeutic nature of creative expression in overcoming trauma.
"of you know there was a lot of humor in the house but there wasn't necessarily a lot of tenderness and you know I I kissed my kids every morning when they go to school it's just that why but I I don't..."
In this closing segment, David reflects on his journey of personal growth and the importance of embracing change. He encourages others to confront their struggles and seek help when needed.
"my dad didn't do that not not because not because he he um purposely didn't do it I just think just don't think he thought it was that important maybe do you think he knew how to do that I don't know ..."
David Harewood reflects on his mother's fierce protection during his childhood, illustrating the anxiety he felt growing up as a target of racism. He shares how her presence at school gave him comfort, but the reality of facing racism alone on the way home created a constant state of fear and anxiety.
"your mum's reaction there when I read about this seemed uncomfortably calm well what are you gonna do you know and she wasn't always calm and there was times when she she did you know grab people by t..."
Harewood recounts a traumatic experience at a football match where he faced racial abuse from Leeds United fans. He discusses the emotional impact of this incident and how it crystallized his understanding of racism, despite his mother's encouragement to hold his head high.
"you were a target people don't understand that especially people especially people that haven't experienced race racist debut the idea of leaving the school Gates and the the journey home being anxiou..."
David shares the sudden decline of his father's mental health, marked by a haunting moment when he found his father's typewriter with the word 'illness' typed on it. He reflects on the pressures his father faced and how quickly things changed in their family dynamics.
"I thought I'm gonna go and sit in the Leeds end and back in the day back in the day you could um at half time you could literally walk into the ground so I thought you know I think I was about 12 mayb..."
Harewood discusses the confusion surrounding his father's sectioning during his teenage years. He reflects on how his family shielded him from the truth and the stigma associated with mental health, revealing the lasting impact it had on his understanding of mental illness.
"uh my dad was a prolific sort of organizer and uh he started this this Darts League and I was always on the typewriter writing out the results and writing out that who's played who and who had won and..."
David reflects on his father's experience with mental health and how it shaped his own understanding of being sectioned. He draws parallels between his father's struggles and his own, emphasizing the profound effects of losing one's freedom due to mental illness.
"happened really quickly and they sort of kept me away from it but unbeknownst to me my brothers were holding my dad down in the kitchen because he would he he sort of lost it how do they explain being..."
Harewood explores the intersection of race and mental health, discussing how black individuals are overrepresented in mental health systems. He shares insights from his own experiences and the challenges faced by his father as a Jamaican immigrant in a predominantly white society.
"same again and I don't think I think he had a really bad time in there a really really difficult and bad time which I don't think he ever forgave my mother for understanding what you understand now ab..."
David discusses the theme of social rejection throughout his life, particularly in relation to his race. He shares personal anecdotes of being rejected by peers and the psychological toll it took on him, linking it to broader societal issues of labeling and identity.
"I think he'd found that difficult and um resentment had built up and I I think I was going to say a point earlier on that illustrates this but a friend of mine used to told me that his dad used to wor..."
Harewood reflects on his journey of rebuilding his self-image after experiencing trauma and rejection. He emphasizes the importance of understanding one's identity and how recent experiences have helped him confront and process his past.
"with cope with mentally when I read through your book and also a lot of the stories you've told me today I mean I remember one particular story where you gotta you got a girlfriend in school and then ..."
David shares his experience seeking therapy, particularly with a black male therapist, and how it has helped him understand his fears and insecurities. He discusses the significance of addressing his identity as a black man in a predominantly white environment and the progress he has made in accepting himself.
"dealing with it because I only found the records I only did that documentary I only all this is recent and I think if I'd talk to you last year I'd probably be in tears by now because so much of this ..."
David shares his experiences of feeling rejected by both the white community and the black community. He recounts how his upbringing in predominantly white environments led to feelings of alienation and confusion about his identity. This segment highlights the struggles of fitting into societal molds and the emotional toll of being perceived as 'too white' or 'not black enough.'
"um it's okay to be not be you know darkest McFly you know who just beats down all the girls dances fantastically does you know he's the Alpha Black it's okay not to be the alpha black guy it's okay an..."
In this segment, David discusses the societal pressures that come with being a black man, particularly in the context of education and success. He reflects on how intelligent black students may downplay their abilities to fit in with their peers, fearing that their success could distance them from their racial identity. This conversation sheds light on the internal conflicts faced by individuals navigating cultural expectations.
"well that's exactly what I had so you know when I came out of Radha so I had I had tough I had this sort of when I was started being an actor you know blackmens I'm like you're gonna be a what that's ..."
David recounts the night he was sectioned, describing the chaotic events leading up to it. He shares his experiences with psychosis, including hearing voices and feeling a heightened sense of reality. This segment provides a raw and honest look at the moments that led to his mental health crisis, emphasizing the importance of understanding mental health struggles.
"there and she said it's amazing low calories you get your 20 odd grams of protein you get your 26 vitamins and minerals and it's nutritionally complete then the protein space there's lots of things bu..."
Reflecting on his experiences, David discusses the lessons he learned from his trauma and how it has shaped him as an artist. He believes that his struggles have provided him with a unique perspective that enhances his work. This segment emphasizes the potential for growth and understanding that can arise from difficult experiences.
"what would you have had to change a void do differently before then to have avoided that happening that's a million dollar question this really is a million dollar question and I'm not sure there was ..."
David shares his memories of the manic phase leading up to his breakdown, describing moments of excitement and heightened creativity. He discusses the fine line between mania and reality, illustrating how exhilarating experiences can quickly turn into chaos. This segment captures the duality of mental health struggles and the complexities of living with such conditions.
"both um scary and um worrying what do you remember about that time because it seems to be quite a blur when you recount the events you it's almost like you have these abstract memories of just differe..."
In a surreal recounting, David describes hearing the voice of Martin Luther King during his psychotic episode. He shares the bizarre instructions he received and the emotional turmoil that accompanied them. This segment highlights the profound impact of mental health on perception and reality, as well as the significance of historical figures in personal narratives.
"give me an example of something that you recount that is well it's interesting because my one of the Consultants that was in the documentary tells me that um because I thought she asked me for an exam..."
David narrates the events following his psychotic episode, including a taxi ride that led to his eventual sectioning. He reflects on the confusion and disorientation he felt during this time, illustrating the challenges of navigating mental health crises. This segment emphasizes the importance of support and understanding from others during difficult moments.
"read that you were you hailed a taxi and it was ultimately the exchange of the taxi driver I mean this was an extraordinary I mean that was an extraordinary and again it was the voice of Martin Luther..."
In this concluding segment, David discusses the aftermath of his breakdown and the impact it had on his relationships and sense of self. He reflects on the importance of recognizing changes in behavior and the need for compassion towards those experiencing mental health issues. This segment serves as a powerful reminder of the complexities of mental health and the journey towards healing.
"got my clothes on and walked all the way to Camden obviously the shop was closed it's 10 o'clock in the morning you know I'm out of my nuts so um and I was exhausted and I thought I've got to go home ..."
David reflects on the gradual deterioration of his mental health over a few months, marked by sleepless nights and self-medication. He explores the interplay between biological predispositions and life experiences that contributed to his breakdown.
"and you have to make that call to have them sectioned and luckily for me my friends had been there because if they weren't there I think I would have been in real trouble oh my God I would have been i..."
In this segment, Harewood discusses how unresolved trauma, particularly from his parents' divorce, contributed to his mental health struggles. He highlights the importance of addressing past experiences to prevent future breakdowns.
"I think and again I mean we didn't you know speaking to my con the consultant who was working on my documentary It's a combination of both things your propensity your your uh the chances of you having..."
Harewood shares his experiences as a young black actor facing severe criticism and racial hostility in the industry. He recounts a particularly painful review that questioned his choices and the impact it had on his self-esteem and mental health.
"and the hostility that I was met with as a young black actor was ferocious newspapers newspapers reviews just dismissing me completely dismissing me and I sort of left John's school with a bit of heat..."
David discusses how he turned to alcohol as a coping mechanism during challenging times in his acting career. He reflects on the pressures of performance and the unhealthy ways he tried to manage his stress.
"always in the middle of that monologue black people would get up and walk out and it was really tough to deal with it was really tough to try and they were such Chop Sing and but as they walked out an..."
Harewood describes the surprisingly quick recovery process after being sectioned, emphasizing the importance of convincing his mother of his stability. He shares how he navigated the transition back to acting and the support he received from family.
"how long from being section to getting back to acting how long was that sort of recovery process per se it was a lot quicker than I realized actually which I which surprised me I thought it was going ..."
In this segment, Harewood reflects on how acting serves as a therapeutic escape for him. He draws parallels between acting and the struggles of identity, emphasizing the joy and freedom he finds in performing.
"I sat here with uh Maisie Williams um the young Game of Thrones actress and she talked to me about how act acting was a form of escapism in her life because her home had such little joy that acting be..."
David discusses the contradictions of life compared to the controlled environment of acting. He shares insights on how performance allows him to express himself freely, contrasting it with the insecurities he faces in everyday life.
"the true nature of a thing of art it's like somebody who paints I think you know they want to create something and they're free to create like Van Gogh could be taught that it could be tortured but he..."
Harewood explores the ongoing struggle to find joy in life outside of acting. He reflects on the importance of working towards happiness and the challenges that come with it.
"uncontrollable life is full of contradictions full of difference full of failures and success it's just it's it's uh it's very difficult to distill whereas on stage I know you know I can play that and..."
David shares the impact of his 2017 tweet about his mental health struggles, which unexpectedly led to widespread media attention and personal reflection. He discusses how this moment opened up conversations about mental health.
"work at it 2019 you was the the first time 2017-2019 was the first time she really opened up about your experiences in terms of to the Press I'd always I I mean like that's that was the shock of it is..."
Harewood reflects on the release of his documentary, describing the anxiety he felt before it aired. He shares how the positive reception and emotional responses from viewers highlighted the importance of discussing mental health.
"2019 you um produced the documentary hmm everybody talks about that documentary really incredibly powerful but just artistically brilliant in so many ways but so many people talk about it you know I e..."
In this final segment, David recounts the overwhelming response he received from strangers after the documentary aired. He emphasizes the commonality of mental health struggles and the importance of breaking the stigma surrounding psychosis.
"you know and she watches you know she went and she was like she was afterwards she said she was wearing the you know the kids might get ribbed at school or you know your dad's there is that and I didn..."
David shares poignant stories from his book tour, where he encountered individuals who had recently experienced mental health crises. He highlights the commonality of these experiences and the emotional toll they take on families. This segment underscores the urgent need for awareness and understanding of mental health issues, particularly in young adults facing new environments.
"it's a shame attached to to particularly psychosis and particularly to being taken away it's a shame attached to it for some reason maybe because I'm an actor I have no shame so me a recognizable succ..."
David addresses the alarming trend of how people of color are often criminalized during mental health crises. He recounts his own experiences with law enforcement and the disproportionate treatment faced by individuals in similar situations. This segment sheds light on systemic issues within mental health care and the urgent need for reform.
"I sometimes sit here with people and there's a moment where they let the wall down and the wall can be a number of things sometimes it's sexuality sometimes it's something that they've been holding in..."
In this segment, David discusses the risks associated with misdiagnosis and the treatment of mental health issues, particularly for black individuals. He shares his own experiences with excessive medication and the implications of being treated differently due to racial biases. This highlights the critical need for equitable mental health care.
"black people being restrained by police the amount of Crim the criminalization of that the criminalization particularly black people in that period of illness of psychosis is look at the people in Ame..."
David reflects on his journey of self-discovery following his mental health struggles. He discusses the importance of understanding one's own vulnerabilities and the healing process that comes from confronting past traumas. This segment emphasizes the transformative power of self-awareness in overcoming mental health challenges.
"so it just all this stuff was coming out all these stuff was coming at me and I couldn't really process it and I remember going into my therapist and just flying my eyes out because it's too much it's..."
David shares insights into how his experiences with mental health have influenced his acting career. He discusses the importance of vulnerability in portraying complex characters and how his journey has shaped his approach to acting. This segment highlights the intersection of personal experience and artistic expression.
"yes no and and you know again I think of myself thinking about the acting side of it you know I've always had this ability to not method but I really throw myself into a character and I love that and ..."
In this segment, David emphasizes that mental health issues can affect anyone, regardless of background. He shares his realization that mental health is a universal concern and discusses the importance of empathy and understanding in addressing these issues. This segment calls for a collective effort to support mental health awareness.
"something somebody else but even reading about even reading about psychosis is someone that's never been through it it makes me realize that it's completely possible for me to find myself in that situ..."
David reflects on his healing journey since the release of his documentary. He discusses the emotional challenges he faced and how he has transitioned from vulnerability to a place of healing. This segment highlights the ongoing nature of recovery and the importance of support in the healing process.
"and you know I know how having you know having been there I said I was I'm just lucky that I think my doctor said it that he said you know we're lucky David is uh calm essentially a clown because my p..."
David candidly shares his initial regrets about releasing his documentary, fearing that he may have overshared. However, he discusses how these feelings dissipated after receiving positive feedback. This segment explores the complexities of vulnerability and the impact of sharing personal stories on public perception.
"I didn't realize at the time but I think I was really specific when the documentary went out I was very very vulnerable and it really was painful I and I it was uncomfortable and I used I get what I w..."
In this segment, David discusses the challenges he has faced in securing acting roles since returning to the UK. He reflects on the impact of his openness about mental health on his career and the types of roles he seeks. This highlights the ongoing struggle for representation and complexity in storytelling.
"the night before after all the regrets were and then maybe afterwards there was like maybe I've said too much you know maybe people don't now see because since then I've done a lot more a lot more doc..."
David introduces his innovative project, a diary that listens and provides tailored support for personal development. He emphasizes the importance of self-awareness in personal growth and invites listeners to join him on this journey. This segment showcases David's entrepreneurial spirit and commitment to mental health advocacy.
"I want complexity I want a challenge so when I'm finding that in the world of documentaries and I really enjoy doing that this has never been done before ever keeping a diary has fundamentally changed..."
Harewood reflects on his journey as an actor, discussing the importance of versatility and adaptability in his career. He shares insights on how his unique background and experiences have shaped his ability to play diverse roles, emphasizing the need for actors to embrace their individuality rather than conform to stereotypes.
"um and now as an entrepreneur and many other things in a director unbelievably um successful unbelievably successful um against many many odds why you yeah you have the talent you're a Class Clown you..."
In this segment, Harewood shares valuable lessons learned from his struggles and failures. He emphasizes the importance of resilience and self-care, advising young actors to prepare for challenges and to take care of their mental well-being as they navigate their careers.
"it's funny the things that often give us our USPS are also entirely linked to the things that give us our difficulties and our struggles and it seems to be the case in what you've said it's funny beca..."
David discusses the concept of control in the face of uncertainty, highlighting the importance of focusing on what one can influence. He shares his personal experiences of staying positive and proactive during challenging times, reinforcing the idea that maintaining a positive mindset can lead to new opportunities.
"really look after yourself because what does that mean to you look after yourself uh control what I can control and don't if I don't get a job I don't get a job I can't there's nothing I can do about ..."
Harewood talks about his new production company and the motivation behind it. He encourages aspiring creators to take charge of their narratives and produce work that reflects their vision, rather than waiting for opportunities to come from others. This segment inspires listeners to be proactive in their careers.
"controlling what you can control it made me realize that this word popped into my head I almost imagined myself stood at a Crossroads and one path was like control what I can control and that says lef..."
In this heartfelt conclusion, Harewood reflects on the legacy he wishes to leave behind. He emphasizes the importance of inspiring future generations and being a role model through his actions. This segment encapsulates his commitment to making a positive impact in the world and encouraging others to do the same.
"for yourself slash children foreign I would say crack open the universe you know inspire those around me an inspirational figure in in what you do be an example in what you do and let me I'll give you..."