"When times get tough, you need to get proud. No need to look backward. Put your feet on the ground. Stand up. Stand up. >> Welcome to the fall state. I am Jesse Lee Peterson. Thank you all so much for..."

">> I am uh happy to have this conversation with you. I saw a little of a clip where you said you were ill at one point and that you weren't expected to be around much longer >> and I'm like I almost s..."

"gets too painful. And the the pain for probably the first five six months of uh the year this year was just terrible. I mean just all over just horrible pain all day long 24 hours a day. And so, uh, a..."

">> right? >> But um it was a mechanism that if it didn't work, it would allow me to get this new drug. And so I tried it and in one week it removed all of my discomfort. >> Wow. >> All of it. Now I do..."

"at any moment and been done by the end of the day. And uh I'd made the decision. >> Um but all my pain went away. So I thought, well, we'll see what happens. >> Wow. >> So I mean I I suppose I could l..."

">> I mean, there there lots of tests that are being run right now. So maybe maybe I get lucky. >> Well, I hope so. How old are you? >> I am 68. >> 68. So you're still young. >> Well, yeah. Turn turns ..."

"know that every cancer is different, >> which makes me think that having one name for it probably is always misleading. But uh yeah, so we we'll see. Maybe AI will be the answer. >> So coming that clo..."

"guess the good news bad news of being a public figure is that when I announced that I only had what I thought was just a few weeks left um I didn't expect this but people completely opened up and uh t..."

">> Right on, man. You um you're not married. You are you married with children and all that? >> Well, I'm not married at the moment. I tried it twice. >> Okay. >> But uh but but so far so far the uh t..."

">> And uh I was concerned if I couldn't be there to be their backs stop, you know, in case things got tough, >> right? >> Um because you feel a certain responsibility as a man. Um probably everybody. ..."

"end of June, I'm going to take my own life and I'm prepared for me. Boy, I don't know how I would live that way. I don't know would I be afraid or or how I would deal with that. Well, one of the thing..."

"body. Were you going to have family members around you or just the assistant doctor folks? >> Um, believe it or not, you can't. You don't even have the option of doctors. It's not an option. You don't..."

"last several hours. Laying under a tree immobilized and dying. >> What a mess. >> Well, I'm glad you can put it off for a while longer. >> Yeah. >> Do you do you have anger >> inwardly? Are you >> Are..."

"me canceled. And uh so I missed both of those. Strangely enough, I I sort of miss being so angry that I'm not afraid of anything. >> That's that's sort of a fun feeling now and then if it's justified,..."

">> Yeah. Poor guy. It's funny. I do think of him almost like a a real person at this point. A while back you said something like and I don't remember exactly but the hell with the blacks that you can'..."

"community. >> Yeah. >> But but they would decide what to do with that money and how to how to fix their own problems. And >> I have to say I have complete respect for that opinion. >> Yeah. I I I like..."

">> So, so that that that was sort of tough and I think that made me mad as much as the poll did. Now, by the way, the poll was really undersized. There weren't enough people to make it valid. But two ..."

">> I track with you. >> Yes. And I think it's because white people just have black fatigue. I I think they just sick of being blamed and being angry at and uh calling them names went in the past and d..."

">> Yes. >> So as a creative person, it's really hard to know that you have to color between the lines and that you could only do what would be appropriate in a family newspaper that a six-year-old mig..."

"All right, you're not going to marry me. You're not going to hire me. you're not going to buy my product unless you like me. So try to make that happen. >> So should we try to make them like us or dis..."

">> It seemed abnormal to me that an individual would spend one second thinking about what others think about them or say about them. It just seemed to be an abnormal state of being and I can't imagine..."

"your awesome thoughts. So, if you give the compliment, well, then you can say you're that person. If you simply thought it and didn't give it, you're not that person. You're the person who didn't give..."

"that's only a partial answer because, you know, I'll do more than that that day. >> So you believe >> you So you do different things and you have different thoughts all day long. Are you and if you ar..."

"credit, my mother only cared that I had analyzed it. >> Right on. >> And then and then it was my decision. We never talked about it again. >> Nice. >> Yeah. >> And who is God? >> Well, you got all the..."

">> Amazing. One other quick question about that. When you die, do you think you leave this earth, this planet, or you stay here just without a body? >> Well, I don't think you go anywhere like as a co..."

"But if you lost in imagination, then you're asleep because you're not aware of what's happening right now. >> I like that. Yeah, that's a that's probably a great way to know if you're asleep. >> Yeah...."

"mind is very deceiving and try to keep you in time so that it can control you and keep you away from the present, away from life. So, but a lot of people think that they are their thoughts and they do..."

">> Yeah. >> And the statistics are just horrifying. But um as far as I know, the uh the black violence against white people is not nearly as bad as black violence against other black people. Right. Do..."

"concerned that whatever this is that's happening doesn't have um an obvious way to stop it. >> Yeah. >> So, could get worse. >> The politicians and not all the Democrat, but most of them want that to ..."

">> And And we're not in a good place. >> What do you think about the great white ho? How's he doing right now? What do you think about what he's doing? Uh, that would be Trump. >> They call him king. ..."

"called Chicago crime. Are you telling me that I can just send in my forces, lower the crime, and then people will be happier? That's that's what that pile of money is. Nobody else is going to do that...."

">> Yeah. >> Yeah. Imagine imagine after he's gone, you know, because every everything has an end point. Imagine after he's gone trying to explain Trump and the Trump presidency to someone who, let's s..."

">> Yeah. I feel like we're all learning something just watching him work. >> Absolutely, man. It's mind-blowing. I um um How do you deal with criticism? Well, you know, years ago when I first became a..."

"that or, you know, I I have way more appreciation of the attention because that's what makes me feel alive. Nice. One other quick question. Then I put you on the hot seat and I'm gonna let you go beca..."

"will be second to none. >> Right on. You gave Nick some advice that maybe he should be quiet or not say certain things. You know Nick, right, Fe? >> Oh, I don't know him, but I know of him. Yes, >> yo..."

"always thought of Nick as a very smart guy and very wise and I spoke at one of his conference once and that's when I really I had interviewed him several a couple of time on my show but then I spoke i..."

">> That's right. So, listen. I got to put you on the hot seat, and I need you to answer these questions as quickly as possible. >> Okay, >> the hot seat. >> What is a man? A man is somebody with testo..."

"unressed is that public school is a it's a horror I think for most people. >> Nice. Did you have fun? >> Yes, a lot of it. >> God, you have literally made my day. A >> really I'm glad for this time wi..."