"When this story hits the airwaves, it's going to transform people's opinion about the CIA and the depths to which CIA will dive to collect intelligence that protects Americans. But one of its own offi..."

"this episode. Can you figure out which country Andrew and Jihi were undercover in as spies from what they say? But also, our team here have figured out that the mole in the CIA was one of these three ..."

"Andrew, you've never told this story before, have you? No, I have never told the story of my own operational background. It's been uh it's been something that CI has forbidden for a long time. And wha..."

"Why do you think they didn't want you to publish this book and this story to get out? When this story hits the airwaves, it's going to transform people's opinion about CIA in two big ways. First, they..."

"And you were involved in that operation to find the mole within the CIA. Correct. More specifically, my wife and I were included in in an operation to kind of f it out the mole to bait and and tempt t..."

"And your wife is here today, correct? And we're going to bring her in and talk to her as well. But for the for anyone that doesn't know your backstory, which would be pretty remarkable seeing as you'v..."

"he told? What was your perspective? There's always another perspective. And are you allowed to date in the CIA? Oh, yeah. It's encouraged. Um because it's really hard when you're keeping so many secre..."

"do they tell you what your role is? Cuz I know there's several different roles in in the CIA. Mhm. Targeters began uh during the war on terror. And because what they initially did was target individua..."

"And you became a targeter. Yes. So, your job was to figure out who to capture and kill or capture or or And what was your role in the CIA? How was your role different? Can you explain it for a layman?..."

"So, where where does the story begin? Andy, you know, you you wrote this book to tell a story. So, I'm asking you the question. Usually, I' I'd hazard a guess where to start, but where does this story..."

"that moment onwards, how long was it before you flew to the foreign country in question? And what was your objective when you got to that foreign for foreign country? So I guess it's like a subobjecti..."

"that what was the risk that you were thinking about? It is very real that you can be disappeared by a foreign adversary, that you can be, you know, killed by them with no explanation, that you can be ..."

"So you land in this friendly country next to the enemy country. And do you have to adopt new aliases, new names, new new stories? Do you have to pretend that you're normal people living a normal life?..."

"can't disclose it. Yeah. Like as far as this enemy, did you like run a when you were in the enemy country working? Were you like running like a like a coffee shop or is it Yeah. When going into Falcon..."

"Mhm. So, the C CIA would supply that pornography in a way. um we would more like facilitate the transfer. Some other friendly country might actually be who acquires it. So for example, Germany might a..."

"what was your what did you accomplish while you were there? And what was the you talk in the book about using terrorist tactics to build your operation there? Can you you run me through what is it wha..."

"So what was your what was your first mission together as a as a team? Like what were you what were you doing in the enemy country? What was your objective to you were finding you were working as a tar..."

"was there ever a time when you felt most at risk when you were in that hostile country? At some point it my presence in Falcon in the enemy country became known to the local government in the enemy co..."

"So, you're now inside that hostile country, that enemy country, and they know that you're a US spy. Was there a day when you realized that they knew that you were a spy? Yes. Well, there wasn't a day ..."

"So you're you discover that you've been discovered by this adversarial country. You call Jihi. You let her know that you're coming home early. Then what do you do? Then I have to plan my escape. So an..."

"though right? Correct. But the the ones that aren't public. So the CIO will create a company and then they will use that company to pretend to be doing something in a foreign foreign land basically. B..."

"my head as you said that. The first was there's obviously a huge conversation at the moment around Tik Tok because Tik Tok was started in China. become this massive global success and I can't think of..."

"that we we don't have privacy. It's not real. Privacy is not real. No. I mean, you know, there's a level like in your when you get undressed in a dark room like that's yours. Usually no one's watching..."

"real business, fake, you know, real business becomes successful is the man on everyone's lips at the moment, Jeffrey Epstein. M so Epste's a fascinating case because Epstein fits all of the primary pi..."

"offer, whether it's knowledge or skills or experience. And that means you have value. Stands, the platform I co-own, who are one of the sponsors of this podcast, turns your knowledge into a business t..."

"they teach you how to deal with head trash. Mhm. What is head trash? It's funny actually. So head trash is all the terrible things that you say about yourself in your head. That's the the colloquial t..."

"language and how you speak and Absolutely. CIA trains us on how to deal with uh interviews, how to deal with interrogations, and even how to deal with uh actual um capture and and strategic almost lik..."

"to leave the CIA? Did did the shadow cell operation end at that moment? After shortly after Andy was compromised, we found out that we were pregnant and we were hoping to be able to stay on at Wolf to..."

"What did they do wrong? It's a great question. So, um, FBI created a sting operation based off of the intelligence that we were able to collect through our operations that that brought the mole out. S..."

"that you view reality and human beings? Oh yeah. In what ways? Very much so. So I love this question and I really want you to be honest. Can you please share with Steve how you went from your college ..."

"I think we're always in a moment. I think some part of the world is always in that moment. What about the United States? cuz I know Andy said when we had the conversation the other day that he was goi..."

"think it started with my love for Sir Alex Ferguson as a Manchester United fan. So, when I was told about a new Netflix series that covers the rise of the Dallas Cowboys, it immediately piqued my inte..."

"people who are trying to be successful in their average life, because this is called the D of a CEO, that you learned through your time at the CIA that you think are most useful for people to be succe..."

"you mean the president? The president. Yeah. The president's getting more power to do things. Yes. Because for a period of time, it was because Congress didn't want to make their own decision. So, the..."

"levels out? Where do you think we end up if you had to guess? I think that we have a solid 6040 right now. I think there's a 60% chance that we don't like where the transition ends and then we spend 1..."

"scenario of that infighting? Because people think, okay, it just means people are going to pop off at each other on on X and Twitter and social media and they're going to scream at each other and then..."