"the following is a conversation with Mark Norman a New York comedian who has a way with words that is often both dark and hilarious let there be a warning dear friends to proceed with caution and to w..."

"first so let me continue on that tradition and ask you about something that Charles Bowski said about love are we rolling yes oh jeez no hello no nothing no I thought I was robotic Bukowski said love ..."

"jeez is it planned already when the wedding you see squid game I'm just living life uh yeah it's it's uh planned it's in New Orleans I'm from there and uh it's next year are you married no single Virg..."

"time lost a lot of bicycles had a bicycle taken from under me that was pretty brutal uh these kids pulled up you know they're like 17 and I was 13 and I had a face paint on like I had a not black face..."

"always there's always an opportunity to uh to make a better uh life for yourself to to become a better version of yourself yeah and I remember coming home crying with no bike and my mom she's my paren..."

"you go on from there so there's something there and look at you today they're probably uh you know eating out of a dumpster at a Crispy Cream and you're here got eight podcast you you're doing great y..."

"what it's cold out huh oh yeah like that kind of stuff yeah yeah gotta get there a little bit but it my parents would I hope they never hear this but they would do a thing where my dad especially woul..."

"t-shirt um I mean like what's question sorry do I feel love no no like I myself yeah yeah yeah so are you um like this engine of being self-critical of just being constantly anxious about how the worl..."

"it's just meat I'm a meat guy myself uh they say in 20 years we're going to look back and go H can you believe people ate meat it's somebody like slavery yeah there's some ethical difficult things wit..."

"in New York right now we're in New York right now it's still a magical City to me a lot of people are quite cynical about it about the state of things but not not like Michael mice like a lot of frien..."

"think um you think that's an accurate description of what New York is today like is there still place for the weirdos and just the interesting artists the the edgy The Comedians the the Creator the th..."

"uh so that hurt the city a lot the city is is way more soulless when I moved here in ' 07 I mean not only did I get mugged three times in the first year but it was a hub of like it felt like things we..."

"happen but it all something like the bottom has to fall out and then people have to move back here and all that so something the corporations are kind of fucking us they're just buying everything well..."

"there's just an opportunity to let your weird flourish is there in New York I'm sure they I mean um it's there you got to find it before it was front and center what's your favorite thing about New Yo..."

"you build more layers and layers and layers that's why some new guy some hay seed from Milwaukee shows up you've been here 10 years and you go let me let me help you out because you're you you got aju..."

"of like in Boston you go to Boston they got MIT they got Harvard they got all this shit and then they got the fisherman the blue collar douchebags the Irish guys the immigrants you know and you get th..."

"that instead of like damn that was funny I gotta be that funny damn I wish I had a joke and look I don't want to speak for La Comics because there you know Bill Burr Anthony jck the brilliant La comic..."

"a lot of comics give him props it's always surprising to me I didn't CU surprising to me because he hasn't really made it like big he he did in the 90s he was huge he had his own TV show he was the ye..."

"what does it feel like um to bomb in standup comedy like to fail maybe the psychology of it first like just take me through it cuz we're talking about being uh outnumbered in a fight just being beat u..."

"guess you have to do that to keep the energy of the ACT going and it's just so beautiful to watch wow them try it it's uh and also the what happens Open Mic I don't know five minutes whatever they do ..."

"want too much delusion because then you're a psycho but you need a little well the psycho could be good for a comedy that's true too lot of psychos I mentioned to you offline um that I talked to Elon ..."

"the ACT almost like uh like uh like ingredients in a in a in a cooking in a dish you know like oh that I put too many eggs in take an egg out you got to treat it like that and look when you pull a a b..."

"you tell like in those early days let's just talk about that like at the open mic level that a joke is going to be good on paper like I I'll give you my experience cuz uh um maybe you can be my coach ..."

"completely got nothing I guess if you have a series of jokes you can at least try to recover and like do the Mitch Hedberg thing where like all right I'll cross that off uh well I'm able to like I've ..."

"got a bit anything no you didn't write any one line or anything for this no well just in general ever in your life ever written a joke oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah oh okay no but I don't have anything ..."

"representation of the culture of the people and so Russian is definitely that like represents the full history and culture of the 20th century with all the atrocities all the all the broken promises a..."

"like you know when there's a shortage of food shortage of jobs the the the absurdity of the bureaucracy like the a topheavy government just all of that can only sometimes be expressed with like dark a..."

"Rock has that way of cutting to the the bullshit which I I mentioned earlier I like that cutting through the bullshit kind of style of Comedy because you kind of go oh I'm not crazy that's what I thou..."

"yeah there is something about artist like Jimmy Hendricks dying too early it's like you wonder what was next yeah what was next but then part of it is like um you know it all ends for all of us and it..."

"are way wiser than the people that no offense to me wear a suit and take themselves way too seriously no but you got a spark in you little you got a little uh what's the word not uh elf imp little Imp..."

"think oh Sor right deep analysis by Mark Norman psychological analysis okay but then back to the crafting of the joke you said Chris Rock and nor McDonald like what for you um how do you know when the..."

"it now now now um what awesome there's no industry there you know there's no Netflix whatever and you're like like yeah I know but it it needs a minute you can't just do this overnight so people forge..."

"you're basically establishing it's kind of like in New York you're establishing these whole neighborhoods and you have the freedom to do that because there's a lot of space on all sides yes okay so th..."

"Austin would be it's like a fad like a lot of people are really are really people are excited about Austin and somehow that's like uh it's like when Green Day became famous you no longer want to be a ..."

"it's cool it's kind of like you know go to Mars it's like we get to start over yeah and I like the Hope aspect I think that's huge for people and uh I'm I'm all for it I hope it works out I don't know..."

"into space I think it's all good because you could say hey we could just feed everybody and I like yeah that's true by the way these guys give a ton of money to like philanthropy shit that nobody care..."

"of what space travel is I like how this like pivoted into uh to a workout routine advice trying to get an analogy going here all right right they work pretty well I'll take it all right what are your ..."

"like where I'm projecting right my hopes for this what this thing is but maybe a little that but it's kind of built in I mean it's just a source of Joy maybe it it's connected to the fact that there's..."

"don't need water they don't get jealous they don't you know but if they have emotions then I think we can dominate them because who's had emotion who knows emotions better than us we've got thousands ..."

"you think about the self-driving cars is that just wiping out the horse and buggy isn't that just progression of Technology yeah so I don't know if you've driven in a Tesla for example I have I wrote ..."

"we seem to be more and more comfortable existing in the digital world yeah so like maybe we won't want to go outside more and more we'll just interact with each other virtually and I don't mean Zoom m..."

"people are and I think you try to write a TV show or or craft a movie with your team zoom not nothing there it's like phone sex versus penetration one day you'll learn that I I I know nothing of eithe..."

"um specify like what you know uh it it'll start with like I want my child not to have like a high likelihood of diabetes or something like that and then you get to specify like intelligence you get to..."

"who we are yes and you know I I'm pretty sure in the full lineup of humans like the so let let me uh give you some information break it down I'm sure I'm sure you researched uh this thoroughly but uh ..."

"sperm cells in a lifetime so that's all uh some more than others that's all uniquely genetically unique humans that you could produce so even across those 500 billion you can select H so what do you m..."

"possibilities that are there like all the possible like you won the race yes uh that shocking this all the 500 billion you have to imagine what the competition was oh just tards all day long handicap ..."

"all right I believe that so it's interesting to think about like once you're able to specify some parameters of what your child is like how that changes the nature of um even just like the intimacy of..."

"child yeah I mean CH it changes it it's it's almost like a I don't know it becomes like a factory line of some kind if you don't meet naturally yeah if you don't meet naturally and then you don't and ..."

"that with you know VIP clubs like ah you're kind of ugly or women go hey he's not tall enough we kind of do it a little yeah especially sexually yeah we do can't get on the roller coaster if you're th..."

"we currently do it you can at least get around it yes you can at least like trick your way onto the roller coaster even if you're short right or the fat guy can get rich so he can get laid you know th..."

"a lot of people just want short money I want to feel good look good right now I want to do Molly boom I'll feel good you know but you should space it out you should it's almost like saving money so yo..."

"wants it now now what do you call immediate gratification I think the key to happiness and satisfaction is working for something even if it's uh it's like a baby if you could have a baby in five minut..."

"think it's the same with comedy or or making money or whatever look at these kids who who like child stars they all become heroin addicts at like 22 because they've just their sensors are burned out t..."

"you won't do it because it takes effort and and failure and all that but that's the good part and I know it's hard to see so I think that's uh that's a good good key to life is work hard at something ..."

"everybody wants to take steroids and just boop I'm buff why' you point at me I'm Russian or what well I saw the The Icarus yeah but no I'm not saying you're on roids I'm just you'd be way bigger but u..."

"tried to get by and he tried to ride it and it all came crumbling down but if he had eaten it early like yeah I fucked up I did that whatever it was he would have he would have just kind of been been ..."

"now you don't even think about high school it's just a blip in your dumb life you know and that's what this is now this will just be a blip so remember that and work towards something and uh work hard..."

"so in summary eat shit early and eat shit often yes all right Mark Norman eat s that's the escalated quickly all right I have a list of random questions for you um what activities make you lose track ..."

"really just vibing and and inhib inhib in inhabit you can do it what is it inhibited inhibited uninhibited uninhibited when you're just vibing you're uninhibited you're saying crazy shit and you're la..."

"keyed up I love that and and I look at my watch I'm like fuck it's three in the morning this we've been talking for five hours so I love that that makes the time fly by also I bought a speaking of sel..."

"it's it's a new 197 yeah yeah it's new to me and it just it it it goes in the phase of everything we're doing now everything is digital everything is automated everything is hands off everything is de..."

"I zoned out and went away and next thing you know I don't know where I am I'm in a neighborhood this old guy finds me crying on a lawn somewhere and he goes uh C come inside and he tried to call my pa..."

"Nanny very kind he uh did you hear about this no okay we had this transvesti nanny he was like a drag queen but it was in the 90s so it was weird it was new and uh my bike got stole and he you know my..."

"in know I mean he could have got I mean they they're tools they could have fucking tuned him up two seconds that actually like takes courage oh yeah real courage and then that the the the reason you d..."

"little bit emotional would you rather lose all your old memories or never be able to make new ones it's a tough one but I'd go easy answer make new ones but don't you think all the shitty things that ..."

"really um I it'd be interesting how your comedy would change maybe you would have a good sense of timing you would have a good sense of like the writing process maybe mhm but like no you're making som..."

"they're all yeah that's what's that's life for Sun and Rain baby I kind of like both the whole thing the the loss every time you lose something it really makes you distinctly realize how much valued i..."

"thing ends uh little things too you know people go like oh we got a layover between our flights it's an hour what are we going to do for an hour it's like what do you mean what are you going to do for..."