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"hear I always love to hear how people get into technology and what drove them to the area um were you always passionate about coding and software systems and and what was your journey to get in there ..."

"you can build stuff without actually having any physical coordination or strength or anything at all and you can still construct things so I naturally moved into Computing I was also in chest more gen..."

"your time my teachers would be amazed if they were ask you know who who is the person in in your class who goes on to make a living as a professional author which is effectively what I've become they ..."

"interesting to be asked this question in Melbourne because one of the last Ser I mean as you may know I retired from doing public speaking um and I did that because I just found it too stressful I was..."

"the top of my head where I see ad one of the things that people cons one of the things that we were most concerned about was the connection between technologists and business people and you'll find th..."

"project visits at thoughtworks I was down in the PTO alre office and I uh we had a team of four of our developers who doing a project for a client there was development team was four people the the cu..."

"customer collaboration How can I go to lunch regularly with somebody who's the user or beneficiary of my software to understand what their needs are because in the end what we're about is making our c..."

"take to get from in your head idea from the customer to in production and you want to speed that process if you're going to speed that process you have to be really good at your technical practices an..."

"so speed and quality yeah there's often a friction between that and when we talk to business stakeholders as a technologist and say we want to do it right but it's going to take a little bit longer or..."

"things that always surprises people when they if they when they start doing an agile software development properly is they watch the defect count plummet um it is not unusual and I and I still see hea..."

"the worst thing about defects is that it slows you down you thanks for that answer you've spoken a lot about how we design these complex systems and you know we deal with a lot of large complex organi..."

"we can maintain Speed without being bogged down with Legacy well there's there's whole books written about this this topic right I'll give you five um I mean it's a combinate I mean again I will will ..."

"thinking about how it's going to do it and that twist around that is so important because when it comes to modular design one of the hardest things for people to grasp is encapsulation about hiding im..."

"out as a kind of starting point I would also you put a lot of attention into learning about the various patterns that you can use and when you should apply them because every pattern comes with the th..."

"if you've got a good basis of tests and you know how to do refactoring well it's not difficult to change the code but those thing that's so that is the key to then keeping things going because you won..."

"the first book on micro microservices they we'll all say hey we spend more of our time telling people not to do microservices than to to do them um and that's because microservices come with significa..."

"you're still going to get interactions in production that are going to surprise you because you can't easily get a whole globe of microservices into a staging environment so what that means is you've ..."

"microservices are there so if you're a team of half a dozen or a dozen people you shouldn't be thinking about microservices almost certainly because you'll be probably better off with them on the LIF ..."

"decision without clearly indicating why it's made that decision if I would argue about regulations and things I wouldn't regulate on the basis of whether it's algorithmic or not or whether it's AI or ..."

"try and take and they were doing this with the Mainframe systems and the hard part of this is because finding out where are the seams in that mainframe system that we can use that we can insert new be..."

"we're heading we've built an internal tool that we called kenise I'm we're not a product company that tool will hopefully be completely replaced by proper products in the course of the next few years ..."

"of technology and the same techniques that we could use for legacy modernization I've been talking to Peter Barnes about this is a lot of organizations spend a lot of money on compliance and regulatio..."

"the things I'm hearing at the moment um tools like co-pilot people are very lukewarm about that's consistent message I'm hearing um doesn't do that much personal experience bought that out I mean I I ..."

"code has to still be the concrete thing so you still got to make sure the code is every bit as good as it was um chatting with another senior guy Mike Mason a global AI superdude that's not his offici..."

"so and and certainly what I do is and I I use chat GPT to help me understand you know you know sometimes I'll say I I need this emac function and I can't you know I can ask chat GP to write it for me ..."

"activity oriented division um the terminology is coming um from sheram naram another former colleague of ours and activity or is basically dividing people up by their skills and abilities so all the b..."

"there we are um but size has been what people have focused on but what they didn't focus on is an equally important aspect which is every two Pizza team needs to have a particular customer need and cu..."

"something I've written about for a long long time we talked about it back in the days of object-oriented Frameworks there's two approaches to framework or platform building the first is you build the ..."

"have done oh well but excellent book um and that's the interplay between streamline teams and platform teams and the platform teams have to have that customer oriented mindset but towards those stream..."

"she's got a hiring um recruiting practice in in London and she was saying it's getting really difficult to H get people placed in places where I know they are the right person but it's people are just..."

"you don't think they're up to it but let's let's hold them for a couple of months and if you don't like them you know we'll refund the fee or whatever we'll take them away you know doesn't cost you an..."

"2000 we' send with somebody wanted an experienced C developer and we got well this guy's been doing Java for three years we'll send them off you know they can read a c book on the plane and then this ..."

"kinds of attitudinal things and when I always talk about this I I I go back to an old thoughtworks um cards that talked about aptitude attitude and the most important element Integrity make sure high ..."

"name I met a lot of people near Italy that's is good um so I really like your talking uh I'm a data scientist I'm really inspired by your talking I'm actually looking for a open opportunity however I ..."

"know but this is for assistant kind of job it's like a learning tool help people learning or help the employees to improve the workflow improve the efficiency say uh it's like a doctor if you consider..."

"actually not surprised nor worried that 80% of AI products fail to be honest because this is an early learning stage right I I expect whenever you're in an unknown situation most of the things you do ..."

"that was a fabulous talk thank you Martin I love the last question the most around hiring people and you know human beings being really important um and I I'm a mother of a daughter and I often wonder..."

"that and then also at a human level um when it comes to our recruiting practices and things of kind we must be always looking to say how are we how can we counteract our own internal biases I mean I h..."

"positive feedback loop the more diverse your organization is the easier it is to find more people because they'll look around and say oh this is an un this is unusual I don't normally see across an or..."