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Lewis Capaldi: The Untold Story Of Becoming A Global Superstar At 22 | E178
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Lewis Capaldi is one of the biggest singers and musicians in the world today whose last album went 4x platinum. His new single is Forget me and it’s out now. Known for his authentic and honest style, Lewis is unlike any poster that’s come before him. Topics: 0:00 Intro 02:14 Early years 05:44 Hypochondria 15:53 Panic attacks 29:03 Being self deprecating 33:53 Comparing the first album to the new one 36:23 Questioning what I’m doing 46:42 What would you liked to have been at 16? 50:30 How do others get where you are 56:24 Social media marketing 01:04:13 Writing songs 01:09:10 Relationships 01:11:02 Whats the questions you’e never been asked before? 01:17:05 Other people perception of you 01:23:56 Are you confident 01:26:39 Your new music 01:35:42 Future goals 01:42:45 The last guest question Lewis: https://www.instagram.com/lewiscapaldi/](https://www.instagram.com/lewiscapaldi/ Lewis’ new album: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4GNC7GD6oZMSxPGyXy4MNB?autoplay=true Listen on: Apple podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-diary-of-a-ceo-by-steven-bartlett/id1291423644 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/7iQXmUT7XGuZSzAMjoNWlX Follow: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/steven/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/SteveBartlettSC Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/steven-bartlett-56986834/ Sponsors: BlueJeans - https://g2ul0.app.link/NCgpGjVNKsb Huel - https://g2ul0.app.link/G4RjcdKNKsb
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The Unasked Questions
Lewis Capaldi reflects on the unique questions he's faced during this interview, highlighting the importance of authenticity in conversations. He humorously mentions his net worth and the absurdity of celebrity culture, emphasizing that success isn't about polished images but genuine experiences.
"no one has ever asked me the questions that you've asked me today [Music] releasing new music first time in like three years this time i'm [ __ ] myself"
The Burden of Fame
Capaldi opens up about his struggles with anxiety and the pressures of fame. He shares his disdain for recording albums and music videos, revealing that the joy of performing live is what keeps him going despite the overwhelming challenges he faces in the music industry.
"myself i remember that video of you you found out your net worth oh yeah that's ten [ __ ] million quid sitting about somewhere where the [ __ ] is it no label would ever tell you that is the strategy..."
Childhood Memories and Early Dots
Lewis Capaldi reminisces about his childhood, recalling a pivotal moment when he first sang in front of an audience at a family entertainment night. He connects this experience to his later career, illustrating how early influences shaped his passion for music and performance.
"can't compare to anything else so like when that was making me feel shy if it's like [ __ ] i don't know if i can do any of this [ __ ] anymore my dad gave me i left home from the airport one night an..."
The Outgoing Child
Capaldi describes his outgoing nature as a child, sharing anecdotes about entertaining family gatherings and his early love for performance. He reflects on how this desire for feedback and connection with others fueled his confidence and passion for the stage.
"yourself [Music] lewis hello when you look back and i was reading about your childhood i found it really fascinating when you look back at those um early early early dots that you i think sometimes in..."
Understanding Childhood Trauma
Lewis discusses the impact of family tragedies on his childhood, including the loss of his grandmother and aunt. He explores how these experiences shaped his understanding of death and contributed to his anxiety, revealing a deeper layer of his emotional landscape.
"dad and my two older brothers my older sister and uh there was like i don't know for some reason i had become obsessed with queen i must have been like four years old um but like we got like a cd and ..."
The Weight of Loss
Capaldi reflects on the profound sadness he witnessed in his mother after losing her family members. He shares how this early exposure to grief influenced his perception of life and death, and how it may have contributed to his own struggles with anxiety and hypochondria.
"karaoke thing like one of the family entertainment nights or whatever and then for some reason i just like asked if i could go up and sing and we were rocky by queen um and it was glad and i went up a..."
The Roots of Hypochondria
Lewis Capaldi delves into his hypochondria, discussing how his family's experiences with loss may have contributed to his anxiety about health. He shares personal anecdotes about his fears and how they manifested during his childhood, providing insight into his mental health journey.
"like put a finger on why i did it or what what the reason was for getting up on it but um you're four years old four years old yeah yeah it was it was a strange one and it was like a like a party or s..."
Anxiety and Its Triggers
Capaldi describes the symptoms of his anxiety, including feelings of dizziness and fear of illness. He reflects on how these feelings intensified after achieving fame, revealing the challenges he faced as he navigated the pressures of being a public figure.
"even like that but like when i was younger i was definitely quite like outgoing i'd say like i was quite i remember i watched them when i was like five i watched austin powell's like i was like religi..."
The Influence of Family
Lewis discusses the role of his parents in shaping his anxieties. He contrasts his mother's calm demeanor with his father's tendency to worry, exploring how these familial traits influenced his own mental health and coping mechanisms.
"was doing do you know why um i don't know it's it's a strange one because i i never i guess i never put much thought into when i was five or whatever but i don't know if it's like i don't know if mayb..."
The Impact of Childhood Experiences
Capaldi reflects on how childhood experiences, including the loss of family members, shaped his understanding of life and death. He emphasizes the importance of recognizing how early trauma can influence adult behavior and mental health.
"my mum's mum died when i was three of like cancer not like cancer that was cancer and then a year after her aunt like committed suicide um who was and sorry my mum's sister my aunt committed suicide s..."
Navigating Grief as a Child
Lewis shares his memories of witnessing his mother's grief and how it affected him as a child. He discusses the emotional weight of seeing a parent in pain and how this awareness of sadness has lingered into his adult life.
"remember that's was it profound sadness that you saw oh for sure like i mean it's obviously i mean i can't imagine losing my mom at this i mean i'm 25 my mum would have been 34 when she lost her mom u..."
The Emotional Connection to Parents
Capaldi explores the deep emotional connection children have with their parents, particularly in times of distress. He shares insights on how witnessing a parent's pain can profoundly affect a child's emotional development and understanding of relationships.
"it's it's really i don't think people realize how much kids can feel the pain of their parents right i had an incident with my um sister-in-law and her her and my niece where my probably the instance ..."
The Cycle of Anxiety
Lewis discusses the cycle of anxiety and how it can be passed down through generations. He reflects on his own experiences with health anxiety and how it relates to his family's history of worry and fear.
"unpaid or crying or like um really going through something and i think yeah it's something that just does even though it sticks with you and fears i read the study about these monkeys these recess mon..."
Understanding Hypochondria
Capaldi elaborates on the complexities of hypochondria, distinguishing between casual references to health anxiety and the genuine struggles faced by those who experience it. He emphasizes the importance of understanding mental health issues in a nuanced way.
"things from my dad my dad's like a worrier for sure and he he's a catastrophizer as well like his mind goes to like yeah the other day he went um to chat he went to my brother's house chat from the do..."
The Reality of Anxiety
Lewis shares his personal journey with anxiety, detailing how it escalated after becoming famous. He reflects on the tipping point that led to his first panic attack, providing insight into the pressures of fame and mental health.
"it sounds mental because when i'm like oh it wasn't a big thing however but like so i think it's probably that like that sort of like awareness of death and awareness that you're not around forever an..."
The Journey of Self-Discovery
Capaldi discusses his ongoing journey of self-discovery and understanding his mental health. He highlights the importance of therapy and open conversations about anxiety, emphasizing that awareness and support are crucial for healing.
"you know you you might find a lump and go you know jokingly say it's this and yeah then someone will flip and they sell you're a hypochondriac but the reality of being a hyper contract or ocd is as ja..."
The Roots of Anxiety
Lewis Capaldi reflects on his childhood anxiety and hypochondria, revealing how these feelings manifested during his school years. He discusses the impact of anxiety on his concentration and daily life, and how he later understood these behaviors as symptoms of his mental health struggles.
"like looking back now i'm like oh i was like such an anxious kid but then because now i understand that a lot more and i've got a therapy and i speak about it with people and i'm trying to learn a bit..."
Facing Fears: The MRI Incident
Capaldi shares a personal story about his anxiety leading him to seek an MRI scan, driven by fears of serious illness. He explains how anxiety can distort reality, making it difficult to rationalize fears, and emphasizes the importance of understanding one's mental health.
"became sometimes it could become like just really like again at the time i didn't understand it i and and the symptoms of anxiety like being dizzy and [ __ ] i used to kind of always go like i just th..."
Support Systems in Anxiety
Discussing the role of family in managing anxiety, Lewis highlights how his mother has been a crucial support during panic attacks. He contrasts her support with his father's struggles with anxiety, illustrating the varying dynamics of coping mechanisms within families.
"that was fine and no one can talk you out of those when you're in that moment call your mom you call your friends you tell people no one can talk you out of it i can do it now because i've like done t..."
Understanding Tourette's
Lewis reveals his recent diagnosis of Tourette's syndrome, connecting it to his experiences with anxiety. He discusses the misconceptions surrounding Tourette's and how understanding his condition has provided clarity and relief in managing his symptoms.
"at not being something like life-threatening or like super serious because of how [ __ ] like sometimes like things don't feel real someone who'll say something to me and i won't understand what they'..."
The Pressure of Success
Capaldi opens up about the intense pressure he felt during his arena tour, describing it as one of the worst experiences of his life. He reflects on the challenges of performing under scrutiny and the impact of success on his mental health.
"be [ __ ] something serious like more neuron disease juggling all that [ __ ] and like again just the wheels starting turning and all rested so that finding out the tourist thing was fact was like a n..."
Imposter Syndrome and Self-Doubt
Lewis discusses the phenomenon of imposter syndrome, expressing feelings of unworthiness despite his success. He shares how this self-doubt affects his creative process and the challenges of living up to expectations after achieving fame.
"like i was i couldn't speak between songs i couldn't i could i had to stop songs and start over again i saw lots of tweets one being like particular that was like all loose is on with fully on cocaine..."
Navigating Public Perception
Capaldi reflects on his experiences with public perception and the anxiety that comes with being in the spotlight. He shares his default assumption that people may not like him, revealing the psychological toll of fame and public scrutiny.
"this is real this is huge there's a difference between 2 000 because that's another thing i've got about an issue with especially in the uk it's really hard to go from 2 000 capacity rooms to 16 000 c..."
The Duality of Fame
In this segment, Lewis discusses the complexities of fame, acknowledging both its perks and the accompanying anxiety. He shares his thoughts on how public exposure can lead to feelings of insecurity and the constant pressure to maintain a positive image.
"like i don't know just like a [ __ ] that i shouldn't i shouldn't be in this position and i've always had it and it's like we do the self-deprecating pattern like on [ __ ] interviews and stuff which ..."
Self-Deprecation as a Coping Mechanism
Capaldi explains his tendency towards self-deprecating humor, attributing it to his Scottish upbringing. He discusses how this approach helps him navigate criticism and connect with fans, while also revealing deeper insecurities.
"lumped it's like we were saying before like that thing of like even now coming out to do the interviews and stuff it's like [ __ ] i don't know if i can do any of this [ __ ] anymore because it's been..."
Embracing Criticism
Lewis shares his perspective on receiving criticism, emphasizing his openness to feedback from fans. He discusses the importance of accepting that not everyone will resonate with his music and how he navigates differing opinions.
"walking up to the bar or like if someone comes up and says hello and i'm speaking to them and i think it puts you with them i think oh everyone else in this book i'm a wanker i don't know it's like i ..."
Living with Constant Paranoia
Lewis Capaldi shares his experience of feeling paranoid in public due to his rising fame, especially after starting on 'Dragon's Den.' He discusses how this constant awareness affects his daily life, including his interactions with fans and the pressure of public perception.
"because i'm on because i've started doing dragon's den now so the podcast was like you know big people know before but there's this whole new demographic yeah now this bbc one demographic where if i'm..."
Embracing Self-Deprecation
Capaldi reflects on his self-deprecating humor, attributing it to his Scottish upbringing. He explains how this trait helps him connect with fans and cope with criticism, while also acknowledging the potential downsides of such humor.
"i don't know if it's mark bringing in scotland or just being scottish or whatever like that like i don't take offense to things really like i've seen some [ __ ] pretty ridiculous things written about..."
The Balance of Humor and Self-Respect
In this segment, Lewis discusses the fine line between self-deprecation and self-respect. He acknowledges the importance of being kind to oneself and the potential harm of constant self-criticism, while also recognizing that humor can be a form of self-defense.
"something nice and don't get me wrong around my friends i'm slagging them off like nothing else and they're doing the same to me and it's like you kind of figure out like what your flaws are by the wa..."
The Pressure of Success
Capaldi opens up about the pressures of following up his successful debut album. He shares his fears and anxieties about meeting expectations in the music industry, highlighting the constant pressure to produce hits and maintain relevance.
"constantly in my private life sure i mean i don't like yeah um it's something that has become kind of synonymous with me doing interviews and all the rest of it and i do do it a lot in my private life..."
The Impact of Panic Attacks
Lewis discusses his struggles with panic attacks, particularly during live performances. He shares how these experiences have affected his mental health and his relationship with music, emphasizing the emotional toll of anxiety.
"i was like jovial and it's never stuff that like i can't change you know i mean it's not like things like that i'm like if i'm calling myself chubby that's not like my i can't i can do something about..."
Finding Relief in Lockdown
In this segment, Capaldi reflects on how the lockdown provided a much-needed break from the pressures of performing. He discusses the relief he felt during this time, as well as the challenges of coping with anxiety without the usual distractions of his career.
"three years first time was just a smash mega ultra hit yeah some mate call it that yeah um and um [ __ ] crazy yeah it's wild it's wild so this time i'm [ __ ] myself but this is the problem i think t..."
The Joy of Live Performance
Lewis expresses his love for live performances, describing them as the highlight of his music career. He contrasts this with the stress of recording and promoting music, emphasizing the unique thrill of connecting with an audience.
"uh during lockdown i really struggled as well because it was like oh the next thing that the next thing and then there is no next thing now because we're all covered and all that [ __ ] and it's like ..."
Navigating Anxiety and Music
Capaldi discusses the relationship between his anxiety and his music career. He shares insights on how therapy has helped him understand his triggers and manage his mental health, emphasizing the importance of seeking help before reaching a breaking point.
"i hate doing photo shoots hey get my photo taken i only do all that stuff the only reason i started writing songs was because i thought okay i thought like people who i was watching like bands like gr..."
The Role of Therapy in Healing
In this segment, Lewis talks about his experiences with therapy and how it has been instrumental in managing his anxiety. He highlights the importance of finding the right therapist and the benefits of addressing mental health proactively.
"was wild so like at point's house it's like [ __ ] i just do this and that but i think for the most part i was never seriously considering like stopping like completely but it was definitely something..."
Coping with Panic Attacks
Capaldi shares his journey of coping with panic attacks, detailing how they have impacted his performances and personal life. He reflects on the importance of understanding anxiety and finding strategies to manage it effectively.
"overlockdown stuff i definitely thought initially when it happened it was such a relief because i was like oh [ __ ] [ __ ] i don't have to go away and do this to her mm-hmm and then go and do festiva..."
The Importance of Preventative Mental Health
Lewis Capaldi discusses the significance of addressing mental health issues before they escalate. He emphasizes the need for proactive measures and the importance of finding the right therapist to navigate anxiety and panic attacks. Capaldi shares his personal experiences with therapy, including cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT), and how understanding anxiety has helped him manage his symptoms.
"have the means to do it because um it's sometimes not like whack-a-mole of seeing a symptom but a preventative measure as well how was it you can't wait until things are worse to do something about it..."
Understanding Anxiety and Panic Attacks
In this segment, Lewis Capaldi reflects on his journey with anxiety and panic attacks. He explains how therapy helped him identify triggers and understand the nature of his anxiety. Capaldi shares a pivotal moment when he learned about catastrophizing and how discussing his fears with a therapist provided clarity and relief.
"out and then i never knew what catastrophizing was when it was like that sort of like snowball effective yeah yeah this thing happens then this thing happens so that was a big thing and yeah so just t..."
The Shift from Playing Pubs to Arenas
Lewis Capaldi recounts his unexpected rise from playing small pub gigs to performing in arenas. He reflects on his early aspirations of making enough money from music to avoid a 'real job' and how his manager's belief in his potential changed his perspective. Capaldi shares the joy of performing live and the surreal nature of his success.
"understanding that you this experience that you've been through as as as as if not the world traumatic is a [ __ ] big one but as it is it's a massive switch like i was [ __ ] playing pubs at weekends..."
The Reality of Fame and Success
In this candid discussion, Lewis Capaldi addresses the pressures of fame and the misconceptions surrounding the music industry. He contrasts the ease of performing music with the challenges of public life and the anxiety that comes with it. Capaldi emphasizes that while making music is enjoyable, the fame aspect can be overwhelming.
"of the easiest jobs in the world this is a really easy job the actual job part of it that's the it's the being it's the famous side of things it's like that causes the anxiety and stuff that's your jo..."
The Value of Live Performance Experience
Lewis Capaldi highlights the importance of live performance experience in his musical journey. He shares how playing gigs from a young age helped him develop his skills and confidence on stage. Capaldi encourages aspiring musicians to focus on gaining live performance experience rather than solely on recording music.
"if i can play live music yeah [ __ ] i'll show up and play someone you loved it any old shape for the next 20 years do i mean i don't give a [ __ ] i'll i'll do that man because it's a buzz but um but..."
The Journey of Songwriting
In this segment, Lewis Capaldi reflects on his songwriting journey, revealing that he spent years writing songs before releasing his first single. He discusses the importance of honing his craft and the joy of performing live, which motivated him to continue creating music. Capaldi emphasizes that the process of songwriting was always intertwined with his love for live performance.
"so my life has been so ingrained in like doing like music but it never ever felt like even now it doesn't feel like i'm working hard nothing feels like i'm working hard like without getting to like th..."
Advice for Aspiring Musicians
Lewis Capaldi offers valuable advice to aspiring musicians, stressing the importance of gaining live performance experience. He shares his belief that talent alone isn't enough; practical experience on stage is crucial. Capaldi encourages young artists to focus on playing gigs and developing their stage presence rather than worrying about image or social media.
"but that was the first song i have a popular god dude because i've been writing songs for [ __ ] at that point i would have i would have been 20 when that came out so 10 years i've been writing songs ..."
The Game Changer Moment
Lewis Capaldi reflects on pivotal moments in his career that led to his success. He discusses the importance of self-deprecation and how it shaped his journey, emphasizing the significance of early performances and social media in building his brand. Capaldi shares insights on how he transitioned from being mysterious to embracing authenticity in his online presence.
"like i think yeah it says if i hadn't done that looking back now i'm like oh that's that was the [ __ ] that was the the kind of game changer like this is not an easy question for someone that's self-..."
Finding My Voice on Social Media
In this segment, Lewis Capaldi talks about his initial hesitance with social media and how he eventually found his voice. He recounts the shift from trying to fit a mold to embracing his true self, using humor and authenticity to connect with fans. Capaldi highlights the importance of being relatable and how this approach contributed to his rise in popularity.
"and then they kind of the releases in between there was a song called rush but these are songs i still love song called rush and song called tough tough we thought was like this angle we thought this ..."
The Power of Being Real
Lewis discusses the changing landscape of the music industry, where authenticity is valued over a polished image. He reflects on how artists like Lizzo and Doja Cat have succeeded by being themselves. Capaldi emphasizes that fans appreciate genuine personalities, contrasting this with the traditional expectations of pop stars.
"and i just started to capacity of things and and just realizing oh you can actually just you can philly just put a picture of you where towel wraps around your head and these stupid glasses on me on t..."
The Duality of Lewis Capaldi
In this segment, Lewis Capaldi explores the contrast between his serious music and his humorous online persona. He shares how people perceive him differently in interviews versus social media, revealing the complexities of his identity as an artist. Capaldi reflects on the importance of vulnerability and how it influences his songwriting.
"i think people now see through that [ __ ] like people see like well you're way more relatable than some perfect beautiful like some like one like a david beckham model with like six-pack habs who is ..."
Embracing Emotions in Songwriting
Lewis Capaldi opens up about his songwriting process and the significance of emotional authenticity. He recounts a transformative moment when he learned to write from personal experiences rather than fictional stories. Capaldi emphasizes the value of exploring one's feelings and how this approach leads to deeper, more meaningful music.
"100 and i think i think a lot of people had that i never noticed that as like a thing like i never um i never like saw that as a thing until people started pointing out it's like you know you're not l..."
Navigating Fame and Relationships
In this candid discussion, Lewis Capaldi addresses the challenges of maintaining relationships in the spotlight. He shares his struggles with vulnerability and how fame has affected his ability to connect with others. Capaldi reflects on the importance of being open about his feelings and the impact of public perception on his personal life.
"years with my band over the weekend they're in denmark and then coming back home sunday kind of saturday afternoon sunday and i was just in my empty flat and i was like [ __ ] i feel like i feel like ..."
The Burden of Success
Capaldi reflects on how his success has transformed his passion into a responsibility, creating pressure to perform and meet expectations. He discusses the anxiety that comes with public attention and the fear of disappointing fans and his team. This segment delves into the emotional toll of fame and the struggle to maintain authenticity amidst external pressures.
"happy and i think a lot i i kind of don't know do you know what i mean other than like my music and back to me yeah that's a very strange position to be in and it's like i don't know where i would sta..."
The Paradox of Motivation
In this thought-provoking segment, Capaldi shares insights from a study about how being paid for enjoyable tasks can diminish motivation and happiness. He connects this idea to his own experiences, emphasizing the shift from passion to responsibility in his music career. This discussion highlights the complexities of pursuing a passion as a profession.
"song i think i wanna one of the things that i think is important for you to know is that is not a lewis capaldi thing that is a human thing i remember reading one day about a study which i actually wr..."
Navigating Public Attention
Capaldi opens up about the challenges of dealing with public scrutiny and the pressure to maintain a positive image. He shares a personal anecdote about a negative media portrayal that affected him deeply, illustrating the emotional impact of fame. This segment sheds light on the mental health struggles that can accompany public life.
"you don't think well if you pay me to do something that i love my joy of doing it will drop that makes absolutely no sense but you're right it shifts from being passion as the key incentive and motiva..."
The Weight of Expectations
In this segment, Capaldi discusses the expectations that come with success, particularly the pressure to replicate the success of his first album. He reflects on the uncertainty that artists face and the fear of not living up to their previous achievements. This conversation reveals the universal struggle of managing expectations in any high-pressure career.
"way but what was that what was the question that you'd probably have to learn you remembered yeah come on um i don't think people ask me so it would be around how i've dealt with the shift in my life ..."
The Complexity of Dating as a Celebrity
Capaldi shares his experiences with dating apps and the unique challenges of finding genuine connections as a public figure. He discusses the power dynamics at play and the difficulty of navigating relationships when fame is involved. This segment provides insight into the personal side of being a celebrity and the quest for authenticity in romantic relationships.
"probably my actually probably my first experience with something that i would call anxiety just like feeling like nervous for like days on end yeah totally and it's over control as well i even even wi..."
Seeking Genuine Connections
In this candid discussion, Capaldi expresses his desire for genuine interactions in dating, emphasizing the importance of honesty and authenticity. He reflects on the challenges of being perceived as 'famous' and the impact it has on potential relationships. This segment highlights the struggle for real connections in a world where fame can complicate personal interactions.
"you're you're on tinder oh yeah yeah yeah i'm dating i've just been kicked off with tender right because i think people think i'm a bit important fake yeah so i've been kicked off with bumble tinder h..."
The Challenge of Small Talk
Capaldi and his host discuss the difficulties of engaging in small talk, especially in social settings where deeper conversations are rare. They reflect on the refreshing nature of meaningful discussions and the challenges of connecting with others on a personal level. This segment underscores the importance of authenticity in conversations and relationships.
"and it's like i can't what am i only supposed to date people who are also famous like fit that's a really weird thing so it's that thing of like yeah as strange that i i don't matter beyond tender it'..."
The Importance of Authentic Conversations
In this closing segment, Capaldi emphasizes the value of having deep, authentic conversations rather than superficial exchanges. He reflects on the significance of being genuine in relationships and the need for meaningful connections. This discussion encapsulates the overarching theme of the interview, highlighting the importance of authenticity in both personal and professional life.
"me that like just like we can just have a conversation with two human beings whatever but um yeah i think i would rather if they did know who i was that i was like oh yeah like let your music's killer..."
The Exhaustion of Small Talk
Lewis Capaldi shares his thoughts on the challenges of engaging in small talk, especially in romantic settings. He reflects on how conversations often turn into a Q&A about his career, which can feel exhausting and disingenuous. This segment highlights the struggle of maintaining authenticity in social interactions while being a public figure.
"like one-sided ask a question i'll answer that ask a question whereas and now i kind of sometimes i'm a bit especially in a romantic setting i'm a bit like [ __ ] what did i say to us like what did i ..."
Deep Conversations vs. Small Talk
In this segment, Capaldi discusses the rarity of deep conversations in everyday life. He contrasts the meaningful discussions he has on the podcast with the superficial exchanges that often occur in public settings. This reflection emphasizes the value of genuine connection and the difficulty of initiating profound dialogues outside of intimate contexts.
"you want to be doing that on the [ __ ] weekend no no i totally 100 like people asking like oh how's the gigs going or how's like writing new music going you're like you're going to give the dude answ..."
The Pressure of New Music
Lewis Capaldi opens up about the anxiety surrounding the release of his new music. He expresses his desire for the album to be well-received, revealing the emotional weight he carries as an artist. This segment captures the tension between creative expression and the fear of public reception, showcasing Capaldi's vulnerability.
"this [ __ ] great start and it's like like even even before the podcast and stuff it was like having each other it was about [ __ ] proper and deep stuff so i was like but in real life if you walk up ..."
Navigating Success and Anxiety
Capaldi reflects on the duality of success, acknowledging that while it brings recognition, it also heightens anxiety. He discusses the fear of not meeting expectations and the pressure that comes with fame. This segment delves into the mental health challenges faced by artists in the spotlight.
"very i mean i don't often have we don't often have conversations just deep in front of cameras like that's my cameras but like i think um yes it's always refreshing when you think so you got you know ..."
The Joy of Creating Music
In this segment, Lewis Capaldi emphasizes the importance of enjoying the creative process rather than fixating on outcomes. He encourages listeners to focus on the joy of making music and to remember the reasons they started. This message serves as a reminder to find fulfillment in the journey rather than just the destination.
"first album like pertaining to my own mental health and like my own sort of outlook on things regarding being famous or whatever um and i think like that it was kind of like a nice thing to be scared ..."
The Weight of Expectations
Capaldi discusses the burden of expectations that come with success, particularly regarding his new album. He shares his fears about how the public will perceive his work and the anxiety that accompanies this pressure. This segment highlights the internal struggles artists face when balancing personal expression with external validation.
"[ __ ] bricking it it's like it's a serious eh and it's like it's that thing as well like like i said earlier where people like ah man you can [ __ ] shout you could fart in the mic and go [ __ ] top ..."
Finding Balance in Fame
Lewis Capaldi reflects on the importance of maintaining personal connections amidst fame. He discusses how sharing moments with loved ones can ground him and provide perspective. This segment underscores the significance of relationships and roots in navigating the complexities of a public life.
"higher power of faith or whatever i don't know but like it's uh it's still still quite hard it's one of those things where no amount of therapy i think is going to help me not focus on that yeah and i..."
The Reality of Awards Shows
In this candid segment, Capaldi shares his mixed feelings about attending awards shows. He recounts a panic attack he experienced at the Grammys and how the pressure of such events can overshadow the joy of recognition. This reflection reveals the often unseen struggles that accompany public accolades.
"relieved because i'll be like oh [ __ ] [ __ ] that all that pressure's off you know i mean like some part of me kind of feels like that and then part of me feels like oh no if it goes well i'll be re..."
Celebrating with Loved Ones
Capaldi emphasizes the joy of celebrating achievements with family and friends rather than focusing solely on personal accolades. He shares a memorable experience at an awards show where the presence of his loved ones made the moment special. This segment highlights the importance of community and shared experiences in the life of an artist.
"i don't know i'd say just like remember why you got into in the first place remember doing that don't don't feel like you're working towards some end product feel like you're you're this is the end pr..."
The Importance of Roots
In this segment, Lewis Capaldi discusses how his roots and upbringing shape his identity as an artist. He reflects on the significance of staying connected to where he comes from, regardless of his success. This message reinforces the idea that personal history and relationships are vital in maintaining authenticity.
"future moment but it's like a mirage you see it in like when people are in those like movies in the desert and they see i know you're like chasing a rainbow it just keeps moving off further into the f..."
Future Aspirations and Goals
Capaldi shares his aspirations for the future, including a desire to write music for films. He expresses a laid-back approach to his career, focusing on enjoying the process rather than setting rigid goals. This segment captures his openness to new experiences and the importance of keeping creativity fun.
"whatever it's because you're celebrating this way like people that you love and people that you that have been through it all with you and yeah my mom and dad obviously my mum gave birth to me by the ..."
Personal Life Reflections
In this introspective segment, Capaldi discusses his views on relationships and personal life. He acknowledges the challenges of balancing work and personal commitments, expressing a desire for meaningful connections without the pressure of traditional expectations. This reflection highlights the complexities of navigating personal and professional realms.
"there was nothing that was going to like either way yeah i mean if i'd lost i wouldn't have been like oh [ __ ] i lost nice room and i'm going home it would have been like all right kill let's [ __ ] ..."
Embracing Youth and Freedom
Lewis Capaldi reflects on the joys of being in his twenties and the freedom that comes with youth. He discusses the importance of enjoying life without rushing into commitments like marriage or parenthood. This segment captures the essence of living in the moment and appreciating the journey of self-discovery.
"love them to bits but and when you can see like the people you're like who have kind of made you who you are as it were enjoying the things that you're enjoying and seeing it unfold and stuff i think ..."
Navigating Relationships at 25
Lewis Capaldi reflects on his current perspective on relationships and family life at the age of 25. He discusses the pressures of seeing friends settle down while he prioritizes his music career, expressing a sense of freedom and the importance of being young. Capaldi emphasizes that he is not ready for marriage or children, highlighting the balance between personal life and professional ambitions.
"uh my kinks but uh i don't know i think it's still nice to have like i like meeting new people when hanging out with new people and um like uh shagging that i guess but but like just i think right now..."
The Rock Star Lifestyle
In this segment, Lewis Capaldi shares insights into the rock star lifestyle and the boredom that can accompany it. He discusses how musicians often find themselves seeking excitement during downtime, leading to spontaneous nights out. Capaldi reflects on the transformative power of meeting someone special, which can shift priorities and change one's outlook on life.
"like so i see all my friends having some of my friends i've one pound's got four kids um might say just me and it's like africa's maybe i don't know but i don't know speaking that much anymore it beca..."
Embracing Youth and Life's Moments
Lewis Capaldi emphasizes the importance of embracing his youth and taking time to enjoy life rather than solely focusing on work. He acknowledges the tendency to miss significant life events due to his career and stresses the need to balance professional commitments with personal experiences. This segment captures Capaldi's realization of the value of living in the moment.
"that is a lot like i don't know i love a [ __ ] night out a lot of times you're like you'll be sitting about thursday night wait wait tuesday [ __ ] night or something and you've got nothing on wednes..."
The Pressure of Expectations
Capaldi discusses the pressure of expectations in his career, particularly regarding his music and public persona. He reflects on how these pressures can lead to feelings of anxiety and the importance of maintaining a sense of self amidst the chaos of fame. This segment highlights the mental health challenges faced by artists in the spotlight.
"we we have a closing tradition on this podcast where the previous guest asks a question to the next guest you might have seen it before um the previous guest asked you a question but i'm actually goin..."
Candid Conversations About Mental Health
In a heartfelt exchange, Lewis Capaldi opens up about his mental health journey, discussing feelings of anxiety and the impact of his recent experiences. He expresses gratitude for the opportunity to share his struggles and the importance of having open conversations about mental health, especially among men. This segment underscores the significance of vulnerability and honesty in addressing mental health issues.
"glastonbury i mean i think yeah that's great do you know what actually did she that i do think there's something unreal about like see being out she's scoring like a great goal like a great goal shoul..."
The Power of Authenticity in Music
Lewis Capaldi reflects on the authenticity of his music and the connection it creates with his audience. He expresses appreciation for the support he receives from fans and the impact of being open about his struggles. This segment highlights the importance of genuine expression in art and how it resonates with listeners, fostering a sense of community and understanding.
"it's most i can ask for operating at 80 it's a [ __ ] class i can see the caution in the world which is just but you know what i i couldn't be more like i don't sit here and gas people up or really [ ..."