"- Hardship will show you who your real friends are. That's for sure. - Can you read the quote once more? Don't eat with people you wouldn't starve with. The following is a conversation with Andrew Hub..."

"You think there's ever gonna be a day when you walk away from podcasting? - Definitely. I mean, I came up within and then on the periphery of skateboard culture. And for the record, I was not a great ..."

"and I feel like I'm doing good in the world and providing good, but I'm already starting to scout talent. My company that I started with Rob Moore, Scicomm Media. There's a couple other guys in there ..."

"(both laughing) - Yeah, I think it's always a call. The last few years have been tremendous growth. We launched in January 2021. And even this last year, 2024 has been huge growth in all sorts of ways..."

"If you can look back and be like, "Hey, I put some really important knowledge into the world. People made use of that knowledge." And guess what? You spawned all these other scientific offspring or sp..."

"for the rest of the world and makes sense to you. - I mean, Bob Dylan didn't show up to pick up his Nobel Peace Prize. That's punk. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - He probably grew in notoriety for that. Ma..."

"And people credit rapid eye movement sleep with some of the more elaborate emotion-filled dreams and the source of many ideas. And there are other examples. Einstein, people described him as taking wa..."

"And Matt talks about this in the podcast,. And he did an episode on sleep and creativity, sleep and memory, and rapid eye movement sleep comes up multiple times in that series. There's also some very ..."

"You see this in different fields. There was one person in particular who came out swinging with language that in my opinion is not like of the sort that you would use at a university venue, especially..."

"It was interesting because in the wake of that little exchange, there's been a bunch of press from traditional press about cannabis has now surpassed alcohol in many cultures within the United States ..."

"- Okay, listen. - It's a little bit like jujitsu, right? People say all sorts of things, I guess. But if you're like, "All right, well, let's go,| then it's probably a different story. - It's not like..."

"but 'cause like there's some people I really, really admire, brilliant scientists that are not their best selves on Twitter, on X. - [Andrew] Definitely. - I don't understand what happens to their bra..."

"like we would any other guest. - Yeah, you treat people really well. I just hope that people are a little bit nicer on the internet. - Yeah. Well, X is an interesting one because it thickens your skin..."

"You've always carried yourself with a ton of composure and respect. You would hope that people would grow from that example. Well, I'll tell you that the podcasters that I'm scouting, it's their energ..."

"And he wasn't able to travel. So our team went out to DC and sat down with him. We rarely do that nowadays. People come to our studio. And he came in. He had some surgeries recently and he kind of cam..."

"And interestingly, he also put forward this idea of... What is this? It's like get up, shut up, suit up. Yeah, something like that. Get out of bed, suit up, and shut up, and get to work. He also has t..."

"And he's the kind of guy that anyone listens to him, young, old male, female, whatever. And you're gonna get something of value. What do you think about this idea of the shadow that the good and the b..."

"I mean, we have neural circuits for rage. We all do. We have neural circuits for altruism and no one's born without these things. And some people, they're atrophied. And some people, they're hypertrop..."

"Right now, I'm very interested in autonomic control. A beautiful paper came out that shows that anyone can learn to control their pupil sizes and without changing luminance through a biofeedback mecha..."

"I like them provided they're cold. - And that's, by the way, my least favorite flavor as I was saying. That's the reason it's still left in the fridge. - The cherry one is really good. - The black che..."

"Yeah, Brian's an interesting one. He's really pushing this thing. - The optimization of everything. - Yeah. Although he just hurt his ankle, he posted a photo, he hurt his ankle. So now he's injecting..."

"But I stay out of things that really stimulate any of like major hormone pathways when it comes to peptides. - That's actually a really good question of how do you experiment? How long do you try a th..."

"but some people take them safely. But usually after about four or five days, I know if I like something or I don't and then I move on. But I am not super adventurous with these things. I know people t..."

"Nicotine is an interesting compound. It will raise blood pressure, and it is probably not safe for everybody. But the nicotine is gaining in popularity like crazy. Mainly, these pouches that people pu..."

"And then he said that when he used to smoke, it really helped his focus in creativity. But then he quit smoking 'cause he didn't want lung cancer and he found that he couldn't focus as well, so he wou..."

"But yeah, you're supposed to kind of like keep it in your cheek and here we go. - But it did make me intensely focus in a way that was a little bit scary 'cause... - The nucleus basalis is in the in b..."

"he told me that apparently, it helps him, as he said publicly, keep his love life vibrant. - Really? It causes vasoconstriction. - Well, he literally said it makes his dick really hard. He said that p..."

"because we run into trouble for other reasons. But in any case, and even there, vaping is a controversial topic. Probably safer than smoking, but has its own issues. I said something like that and boy..."

"But I'll wake up sometimes and go straight to hydration, caffeine, especially if I'm gonna workout. Here's a weird one. If I exercise before 8:30 AM, especially if I start exercising when I'm a little..."

"- That's interesting. I haven't really rigorously tried that, wake up and just start running or listen. - This is the Jocko thing. And then there's this phenomenon called entrainment where if you forc..."

"This does not mean that if you ask your partner a question in sleep that they're gonna answer accurately,. - They might screw up the whole cumulative probability of 20% across multiple months. - All r..."

"And it got picked up and run. And people had a really good laugh with that one at my expense. And so what I did in response to it was rather than just say everything I just said now, I just came out o..."

"But it didn't feel good at first. But ultimately, I can laugh at myself about it. Long ago at Berkeley, when I was TAing my first class, it was a biopsychology class between 1998 or 1999, I was drawin..."

"- Andres Escobar scored against his own team in 1994 World Cup in the United States, just 27 years old, playing for the Columbia National team. - Yeah. Last name, Escobar. That's a good name. - I thin..."

"Things are getting cleaned up. - Yeah. But mistakes nevertheless will happen. Do you feel the pressure of not making mistakes? - Sure. I mean, I try and get things right to the best of my ability. I c..."

"to remineralize teeth provided the milieu is right. Things like alcohol-based mouth wash is killing off some of the critical things you need. It's fascinating. And I put out that episode thinking, oh,..."

"or I've been accused of being against sunscreen. I wear mineral-based sunscreen on my face. I don't want to get skin cancer, or I use a physical barrier. There is a cohort of people out there that thi..."

"which are prescribed for female libido to enhance female libido or Sermorelin, which is for certain growth hormone deficiencies. With rare exception, there's very little human data, but people are sti..."

"And other people are like, "No, this stuff is terrible." I think the most interesting thing about Ozempic, Mounjaro is that they're in the GLP-1 pathway, glucagon-like peptide 1. And it was discovered..."

"I just wish that Joe Biden would actually do long form conversations. - I thought he had done a... wasn't he? I think it was on Jay Shetty's podcast. - He did Jay Shetty. He did a few. But when I mean..."

"Well, listen, I guess you... I mean, is it clear that he's gonna do jail time or maybe he gets away with fine? - No, I don't think I'm- - 'Cause I was gonna say, I mean, does that mean you're gonna be..."

"Now, some people are very open about who they're for, but it's been very interesting to see how when you get people one-on-one, they're telling you they want X candidate to win or Y candidate to win. ..."

"I don't even know who the viable candidates are. Maybe you, Lex. We should ask Saagar. Saagar would know. - Yeah, yeah. Maybe Saagar himself. - Saagar's show is awesome. - Yeah, it is. - He and Crysta..."

"of great white sharks. Brought it back to the lab. We published that study in Current Biology. In 2017, went back down there. That was the year that I exited the cage that you lower the cage with the ..."

"That's the one. So this video, just the Neuralink link was shot by Matt MacDougall, who is the head neurosurgeon at Neuralink. There it is. Now, believe it or not, it looks like it missed, like it did..."

"But yeah, MacDougall, Matt MacDougall shot that video and then it went, quote, unquote, "viral" through the Nature is Metal. We passed them that video. - Actually, I saw a video where an instructor wa..."

"six times in a row. - 120% chance. - Yeah."

"- Yeah. Who do you think wins? a salt water crocodile or a shark? - Okay. I do not like saltwater crocodiles. They scare me to no end. Muller, Michael Muller, who dove all over the world, he sent me a..."

"and therefore agility doesn't matter, but apparently a shark. - Yeah. And turning one of those big salty is probably not that turning around. It's like a battleship. I mean, those sharks are unbelieva..."

"'cause this is from a shark. - Goodness. I can't say I ever saw one with teeth this big, but it's beautiful. It's beautiful. Probably your blood pressure just goes and you don't feel feel a thing. - Y..."

"I've never done ayahuasca, but I'm curious about it. I'm also curious about ibogaine, iboga, but you told me that you did ayahuasca and that for you, it wasn't the dark, scary ride that it is for ever..."

"I forgot the outside civilization exists. I forgot time because when you don't have your phone, you don't have meetings or calls or whatever, you lose a sense of time. The sun comes up, the sun comes ..."

"At the core of our brain and the suprachiasmatic nucleus, we are wired to be entrained to the rising and setting of the sun. That's the biological timer. Which makes perfect sense because obviously as..."

"I love time perception shifts. And you mentioned that in the jungle, it's linked to the rising and setting of the sun. You also mentioned that on ayahuasca, you zoomed out from the earth. These are li..."

"that we don't really leverage as much as we should, which is when things are really hard, you need to zoom out and see it as one element within your whole lifespan, and that there's more to come. I me..."

"from knowing how to relax and all kinds of disciplines, playing piano and guitar when I was super young And then through jujitsu, knowing the value of relaxation and through all kinds of sports to be ..."

"But there's a wonderful group called Veteran Solutions that has used iboga combined with some other psychedelics in the veterans community to great success for things like PTSD. And it's a group I've ..."

"'cause we don't wanna project anything onto them, but like the eyes, and he'll occasionally put them... This is a little owl. I delight in things like this. I've got some content coming on animals and..."

"Look at that bat. People think about bats as kind of little flickering, a little annoying disease things. But look how beautiful that little sucker is. - How's your podcast with the Cookie Monster com..."

"Snuffleupagus is shy and Oscar the Grouch, Grouchy, right? And the Count 1, the 2. - [Lex] The archetypes of- - [Andrew] Yeah. - [Lex] The archetypes is very Jungian once again. - Yeah. And I think th..."

"for finally putting up something where something's not being killed or some sad outcome. - These are all really positive. - They're really cool. They're really cool. And every once in a while... Look ..."

"- Oh, look at that. He's like the behind the scenes of how it's actually- - [Andrew] Yeah. And then there's- - Wow. - Yeah. - Yeah. In the jungle, the diversity of life was also stark. From a scientif..."

"Actually, the Bay Area, t's interesting as I've been going back there more and more recently. There are really cool little subculture starting to pop up again. - [Lex] Nice. - There's incredible skate..."

"That's an important priority and putting a lot of work in there. - Yeah, that's a big one. - Yeah, yeah. - That's a big one. - Putting a lot of work into the runway on that. - What's your advice for p..."

"- Yeah. I think you make an amazing dad. - [Andrew] Thank you. - It seems like a fun thing. I've also gotten the advice from friends who are super high performing and have a lot of kids and they'll sa..."

"- Got a chance to spend time with a really amazing person in Peru, in the Amazon jungle. And he is one of 20 kids. - [Andrew] Wow. - It's mostly guys. So it's just a lot of brothers and I think two si..."

"just for such different experiences. And also, I like a very physical life. So the idea of getting up with the sun in a Montana or Colorado type environment. And I've been putting some effort towards ..."

"So I have a rule for myself that I do a set of tasks for at least five minutes every day. And it turns out that many of them, I do way longer, but even just doing it, I have to do it every day. And th..."

"There's some evidence of increases in dopamine, et cetera, but those are older studies, still cool studies. So I'll do that. Get up hydrate. And if I've got my act together, I punch some caffeine down..."

"if I'm really in a groove. - That's tough. For me, I start the day... Actually, that's why I'm afraid I'd really prize that those morning hours I start with the work. - [Andrew] Yeah. - I'm trying to ..."

"People have asked, journalists have asked, can they sit in? Friends have asked. Nope, just Rob. And for guest interviews, he's there as well. And I talk to Rob all the time. All the time, we talk mult..."

"- Including like even created decisions of like topics to cover all that. - Yeah, like a photo for the book jacket the other day. Mike shoots photos. And then we look at them, we pour over them togeth..."

"but like just every detail and that just takes a ton of time and energy. But I try and work mostly on content. And my team's constantly trying to keep me out of the other discussions 'cause I obsess. ..."

"- I used to spend a lot more time alone. That's on my bucket list, spend a bit more time dropped into work alone. I think social media causes our brain to go the other direction. I try and answer some..."

"You came through town the other day and a lot of people at the house. It was rad. Actually, I was playing 'cause I was getting a massage when you walked in. I don't sit around getting massages very of..."

"- Yeah. Well, hardship will show you who your real friends are. That's for sure. And we're fortunate to have a lot of them. It'll also show you who really has put in the time to try and understand you..."