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Joscha Bach is a cognitive scientist, AI researcher, and philosopher. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: - Coinbase: https://coinbase.com/lex to get $5 in free Bitcoin - Codecademy: https://codecademy.com and use code LEX to get 15% off - Linode: https://linode.com/lex to get $100 free credit - NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/lex to get free product tour - ExpressVPN: https://expressvpn.com/lexpod and use code LexPod to get 3 months free EPISODE LINKS: Joscha's Twitter: https://twitter.com/Plinz Joscha's Website: http://bach.ai PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ Full episodes playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrAXtmErZgOdP_8GztsuKi9nrraNbKKp4 Clips playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrAXtmErZgOeciFP3CBCIEElOJeitOr41 OUTLINE: 0:00 - Introduction 0:33 - Life is hard 2:56 - Consciousness 9:42 - What is life? 19:51 - Free will 33:56 - Simulation 36:06 - Base layer of reality 51:42 - Boston Dynamics 1:00:01 - Engineering consciousness 1:10:30 - Suffering 1:19:24 - Postmodernism 1:23:43 - Psychedelics 1:36:57 - GPT-3 1:45:40 - GPT-4 1:52:05 - OpenAI Codex 1:54:20 - Humans vs AI: Who is more dangerous? 2:11:04 - Hitler 2:16:01 - Autonomous weapon systems 2:23:29 - Mark Zuckerberg 2:29:04 - Love 2:43:18 - Michael Malice and anarchism 3:00:15 - Love 3:04:23 - Advice for young people 3:09:00 - Meaning of life SOCIAL: - Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman - Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman - Reddit: https://reddit.com/r/lexfridman - Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman
"the following is the conversation with yoshi bach his second time on the podcast yoshi is one of the most fascinating minds in the world exploring the nature of intelligence cognition computation and ..."
"thank you for once again coming on to this particular russian program and sticking to the theme of a russian program let's start with the darkest of topics so this is inspired by one of your tweets yo..."
"you're like a leaf floating down the river you just have to accept that there's a river and you just that you are an agent is a construct right what part of that is actually under your control and i t..."
"question uh what's the line between life and non-life it's personal because you're a life form so what do you think in this emerging complexity at which point does the thing start being living and hav..."
"the the monkey riding the elephant and uh consciousness is the monkey and there's some prodding that the monkey gets to do and sometimes the elephant listens i heard you got into some content maybe yo..."
"there is a difference between a reality a simulation and a simulacrum the reality that we are talking about is something that fully emerges over a causally closed lowest layer the idea of physicalism ..."
"do you have a sense of what is that base layer physical reality you have like uh so you have these attempts at the theories of everything the very very small of like strength theory or what um stephen..."
"gotta talk to you about this so obviously with the case of boston dynamics as you may or may not know it's always either hard coded or remote controlled there's no intelligence i don't know how the cu..."
"i don't see where uh the uh awareness that we're aware the the heart problem doesn't feel like it's solved i mean they they're they're it it's called a hard problem for a reason because it seems like ..."
"uh but let me sneak up to the questions of consciousness a little further so we usually relate suffering to consciousness so the capacity to suffer i think to me that's a really strong sign of conscio..."
"can i ask you in a small tangent uh to talk about your um favorite set of ideas and people which is post modernism what is what is post-modernism how would you define it and why to you is it not a use..."
"can i ask you about substances chemical substances that affect the video game the dream world so psychedelics that increasingly have been getting a lot of research done on them so in general psychedel..."
"let's talk about ai a little bit what are your thoughts about gpt3 and language models trained with self-supervised learning it came out quite a bit ago but i wanted to get your thoughts on it yeah in..."
"again so i'm using your tweets as if this is like plato right as if this is well thought out novels that you've written uh you tweeted gpt4 is listening to us now um this is one way of asking what are..."
"so let me ask you it's not quite program synthesis but uh the application of these language models to generation to program synthesis but generation of programs so if you look at github open pilot whi..."
"somehow it becomes scarier when you know that a program generated code that's running a nuclear power plant it becomes scarier you know humans have errors too exactly but it's scarier when a program i..."
"do you think uh from a historical perspective hitler could have been stopped from within germany or or from outside or this well depends on who you want to focus whether you want to focus on stalin or..."
"speaking of which i i love when we went to hitler and stalin from 20 30 minutes ago uh gpt 3 generating doing program synthesis the argument was about morality of ai versus human so um and specificall..."
"it's nice for those incentives to be transparent so for example i'll give i'll give you examples there seems to be a significant uh distrust of um a tech like entrepreneurs in the tech space or or peo..."
"i i generally have a very foggy view of that world but i tend to try to follow and i think society should in some degree follow the gradient of love increasing the amount of love in the world and when..."
"i can ask you i don't know if you know who michael malus is but um in terms of constructing systems of incentives it's it's uh interesting to ask i don't think i've talked to you about this before mal..."
"like a fundamental aspect of that is is love that makes it all like worth it what in this monkey riding an elephant in a dream world what role does love play in the human condition i think that love i..."
"[Laughter] uh do you have advice for young people today in high school in college that are thinking about what to do uh with their career with their life so that uh at the end of the whole thing they ..."
"camus said i see many people die because they judge that life is not worth living i see others paradoxically getting killed for the ideas or illusions that give them a reason for living what is called..."