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Hedge funds make billions from simple secrets

Hedge funds make billions from simple secrets

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From my conversation with Nat Friedman, former CEO of GitHub. Watch the full video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcvMjoJdck4 Or read the transcript here: https://www.dwarkeshpatel.com/p/nat-friedman Twitter: https://twitter.com/dwarkesh_sp Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3oBack9 Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3S5g2YK

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0:00 - 0:19
0:19 duration78 words

The Impact of Sharing Trading Strategies

In this segment, Nat Friedman discusses a surprising revelation from traders at a successful hedge fund regarding the potential consequences of sharing their trading strategies publicly. He highlights that if their smartest trader were to reveal their strategies on a Twitch stream, it could lead to an 80% reduction in profits, emphasizing the value of secrecy in hedge fund operations.

"I asked some traders at a very successful  hedge fund, if you had your smartest trader   get on Twitch for 10 minutes once  a month, and on that Twitch stream,   describe their 30 day old trading stra..."

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0:00 - 0:29
0:29 duration113 words

The Cost of Sharing Trading Secrets

In this segment, Nat Friedman reveals a surprising insight from traders at a successful hedge fund regarding the impact of sharing trading strategies. He discusses how a simple Twitch stream by their smartest trader could lead to an 80% reduction in profits, highlighting the value of secrecy in hedge fund operations. The traders believe that even a 10-year look back window would only slightly mitigate this effect, emphasizing the importance of maintaining competitive advantages.

"I asked some traders at a very successful  hedge fund, if you had your smartest trader   get on Twitch for 10 minutes once  a month, and on that Twitch stream,   describe their 30 day old trading stra..."

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0:19 - 0:29
0:09 duration51 words

The Longevity of Trading Secrets

Friedman continues to explore the concept of trading secrets by asking hedge fund traders how long they would need to keep their strategies under wraps to mitigate the impact of disclosure. The traders suggest a look-back window of 10 years, underscoring the critical importance of maintaining confidentiality in their high-stakes trading environment.

"And then I asked, how long would the  look back window have to be before it   would have like a relatively small effect  on your business? And they said 10 years. These folks make billions of dollars ..."