"Most of the AI is focused on alignment as steering. That's the plight word. If you think that they were making our beings, you'd also call this slavery. Someone who who you steer, who doesn't get to s..."

">> When people think about alignment, I think there's a lot of confusion. People talk about things being aligned. We need to build an aligned AI. And the problem with that is when someone says that it..."

"to. And so when we talk about organic alignment um I think the important thing to to recognize is that alignment is not a thing. It's not a state it's a process. And like this is this is one of these ..."

"mean. And it's like this will be act as a morally good being. And acting as a morally good being is a process and not a destination. We don't we never unfortunately we've we've tried taking down table..."

"if you have a child that only only follows the rules, that's not a moral person that you've raised. is you raise a dangerous person actually who will probably do great harm following the rules. And if..."

">> Yeah. I mean, it's um Yeah. I have a lot of um you know similar intuitions about certain things like um I also dislike the um you know the idea that kind of you know we just need to like crack the ..."

"making EMTT important because there's some lossiness between the description and the actual or why is the distinction? It it goes back to my what I was saying like this is you technical alignment is t..."

"care is not conceptual. Care is non-verbal. It doesn't indicate what to do. It doesn't indicate how to do it. Uh care is a relative waiting over effectively like attention on states to it's a relative..."

"question was just how does this what does this look like in AI systems and maybe another way of asking is like um when you when you talk to the people most focused on alignment at the at the major lab..."

"because something that has the general ability to effectively use judgment, think for itself, discern between pro possibilities is obviously a thinking thing. Like and so as you go from what we have t..."

">> Had to think about it but I think you know it even depends what we mean by person and you know in some sense I care about certain corporations too. So I'm I'm >> No, no, no. I mean but like you car..."

"your your strategy of how you're trying to achieve or even attempt to achieve this this this level like in terms of research or road map or >> so uh the in order to be good at tech we're basically foc..."

"not they're not beings yet. They don't really have a coherent sense of like self and desire and goals and stuff right now. And so mostly they just pick up on you and reflect it. You know, modulo some ..."

"been optimized around relatively high signal low entropy environments like coding and math which is why they're those are easy or relatively easy. um and like talking to a single person whose goal it ..."

">> Two last questions we'll get you out of here. In as much detail as possible can you explain your what your vision of an AI future actually looks like? Like a good good AI future. >> Yeah. Um, the g..."