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Martín Escobari, Head of Global Growth Equity at General Atlantic, shares insights from 25+ years of investing across 19 countries. He discusses the "spearfishing" investment philosophy, navigating market bubbles and global volatility, and why patience is crucial for capturing generational opportunities. The conversation covers AI investment strategies, the prevalence of trauma-driven entrepreneurs, global market opportunities, and his unconventional mentoring approach that has helped create billionaire entrepreneurs. #InvestLikeTheBest #GeneralAtlantic #GrowthEquity #GlobalInvesting #AI #Entrepreneurship #investing #3GCapital #EmergingMarkets #VentureCapital Timestamps: 0:00 Intro 4:12 The Art of Spearfishing 9:20 Navigating Bubbles 16:38 Chuck Feeney’s Vision 23:43 Evergreen Funds 27:39 The Case for Global Diversification 40:07 Checklist vs. Gut 51:53 Career Advice for the AI Era 56:11 Power Alleys 1:09:36 Mentoring 1:12:07 Kindest Thing Presented by Ramp: https://ramp.com/invest Sponsored by AlphaSense and Ridgeline: https://www.alpha-sense.com/invest/ https://www.ridgelineapps.com/ ****** Patrick O'Shaughnessy is the CEO of Positive Sum. All opinions expressed by Patrick and podcast guests are solely their own and do not reflect the opinion of Positive Sum. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Clients of Positive Sum may maintain positions in the securities discussed in this podcast. To learn more, visit psum.vc
An introduction to Martine and insights about investing with a light-hearted approach.
"And I said, "Dennis, it's a bubble. How does it feel to be in a bubble?" Grabbed my hand and said, "Martin, it feels better than being outside the bubble." And I was like, "He's absolutely right. I ha..."
Martine shares his journey from business school to landing a job at 3G in Brazil.
"Alex, who introduced us from 3G, told me this incredible story about you getting a job after him telling you no and what you did to get it. Can you tell that? Can you tell story? That's one of the one..."
Martine reflects on his early experiences and partnerships in private equity.
"She was technically a teacher. The way it really worked is I called my Brazilian friends and I said, "Can you find a very smart, very attractive Brazilian PhD master somewhere in the Boston area and I..."
Martine elaborates a unique metaphor for investment strategy using spear fishing.
"So it was 10x >> value creation relative to the comparison twin. >> How did they do it? They're great spear fishermen. You don't chase the fish. >> You wait. >> Wait. You well you decide where you're ..."
Martine shares his personal experiences with investment opportunities during economic downturns.
"Do you have a a a story of your own that is the closest to a great spear fishing outing >> I wasn't an entrepreneur I was set out by these three guys to go and find great entrepreneurial companies and..."
Martine discusses accelerated growth and lessons from the dotcom era.
"What the do taught me and I just realized this recently. You can do seven years of work in one year. >> Say Marvel. What do you mean? >> Like when you when Elon Musk says, you know, do your 10ear plan..."
Martine analyzes the current investment landscape and discusses the rapid growth of certain companies.
"This seems like a moment of that is happening maybe on mega steroids you know I think of a company like cognition as a recent example that I know well where the pace of growth of the business is it's ..."
Martine discusses General Atlantic's approach to investment during bubbles.
"So, um I think as a firm, John Athletic has been around for 45 years. We try to make different mistakes >> in each bubble. >> And I'm sure we're making our approach this time, different from the inter..."
Martine delves into the risks and rewards of investing in AI-driven companies.
"It's crazy. I mean based on public information anthropic revenues and coaching went from 200 million to over 4 billion in 12 months in B2B that kind of growth has not happened ever ever and it's so ex..."
Martine explains General Atlantic's approach to risk and investment success.
"And I think what's really interesting about GA and we've been around for 45 years through all these technological cycles and we've been international for 30 years. We've been in the in emerging market..."
Martine reflects on the purpose of wealth and General Atlantic's founding principles.
"I have 95% of my net worth in that product and I sleep well at night. >> Yeah. >> I have a vastly undiversified portfolio of you know two assets GA. Yeah. And treasuries. >> The the the 45 years ago t..."
Martine discusses General Atlantic's legacy and enduring commitment to innovation.
"And we've been doing that for 45 years, backing great innovators everywhere. We've invested in over 500 companies over the last 45 years. Half of our investments have been in the United outside of the..."
Martine emphasizes the importance of partnership and culture within General Atlantic.
"They're not that many. You can count them in in both hands. The number of firms that are investors in tech and innovation that have been around and been successful this long. And I think it has to do ..."
Martine explains the unique investment approach and successes in Latin America.
"So I'll give you an example. I uh I ran our general Atlantics uh Latin America program for the first seven eight years of my career at General Atlantic and in all the due diligence uh sessions they as..."
Martine describes General Atlantic's unique approach to fundraising and the advantages it brings.
"This feels my day-to-day I'm managing my family wealth first and foremost and I'm doing it with care and with intention and purpose the way we um fund raise is different also one one of the problems w..."
Martine discusses overcoming the fears in fundraising and seizing opportunities in challenging times.
"And then the the sort of third component that I think is distinctive which I hated initially because uh we have a communist system of compensation which is you all get a percent of the total performan..."
Martine outlines the tradeoffs associated with General Atlantic's unique dual fund structure.
"The the dual structure, which is unusual, you know, not not common. What are the negatives or tradeoffs associated with that? Like do the fund investors get upset that they don't really know like what..."
Martine shares strategies for building long-term relationships with investors.
"My friend John Kim who is a we're very well-known fundraiser at General Catalyst has this simple equation which is that persuasion equals desire minus fear. What have you learned about fundraising giv..."
Martine reflects on the importance of global diversification in today's investing landscape.
"It takes a really long time and and a lot of those families are typically entrepreneurial. They're like, "No, no, I don't invest in funds. I invest directly because I created a business and I'm so goo..."
Martine discusses the current disparity between US and international equity markets.
"Speaking of diversification, maybe the most interesting dimension of that today is geographic. We were talking before we hit record about the incredibly wide gulf between the pristine US, you know, eq..."
Martine analyzes the overall economic outlook and its impact on investment strategies.
"So the US has never been this expensive. I love the US. It's still the number one economy. I still want have half my assets in the US, but not 90% of my assets in the US. Not only is it very expensive..."
Martine shares his experiences and insights from investing in China over the years.
"What have you learned on any recent trips to China? >> China is fascinating and I've been going to China for 25 years and I've seen the development. It's the fastest change in terms of per capita GDP ..."
Martine reflects on the motivations driving Chinese entrepreneurs and their resilience.
"The one thing I learned I actually learned over drinks with a Chinese entrepreneur. So I I've done business in 19 countries and I love to connect on a human level with the entrepreneur. So much so muc..."
Martine discusses the impact of personal and generational trauma on entrepreneurial success.
"So what are my traumas? Some are personal and some are generational. The generational traumas on my mother's side Jewish family had to flee the Russian Empire through Romania, then Argentina, then Bol..."
Martine discusses the importance of understanding trauma in oneself and others for successful relationships and investments.
"So it was rough. It was it felt unsafe. It felt turbulent. And then I I have a genetic disorder. I I bruise very easily like very very easily. So getting out of bed, deciding what activity to do is a ..."
Martine shares insights on the importance of emotional management and self-awareness in success.
"Managing one's emotions productive requires either therapy, writing a journal, or meditating. You should do two of the three. I do two of the three. >> Try to do the third one, but it's really hard. >..."
Martine offers insights into his personal investment frameworks and decision-making processes.
"I'll share a couple characteristics. I I give you the three M's, but they're probably five Ps as well. Create a checklist. And I was like, "Yeah, checklist." Same day, I go to the co-founder, uh, Dave..."
Martine highlights the balance between intuition and a systematic checklist in investment decision-making.
"So, well, there was something beyond the checklist that that was statistically significant. And there's one interview of the super interviewer where she says, "I do the checklist because I have to, bu..."
Martine speaks about the characteristics that make an investment meaningful to him.
"So those are the things that uh the checklist aspires. Me personally, in the deals I've led, um, they have to make the world better. I am so proud that I invested in the number one investing platform ..."
The speaker reflects on the importance of maintaining a playful mindset as we grow older.
"hear from you I just want the brain I don't I don't care about my V8 and the max I want I want the young brain and he said three things the most important one is I refuse to think like an old man stil..."
The discussion shifts to the exciting innovations in AI and their potential impact on society and economy.
">> so so what do you make of this current bubble that we're inside outside you know depending on the You mentioned humanoids, you mentioned bio a little bit. Like there's there's all this exciting stu..."
A comparison of the current AI wave to historical investment cycles highlights the dynamics of capital and innovation.
">> You don't think so? You don't think there's a chance that we're like kind of at we're in that moment already? >> No. >> Why? Why not? >> It's not crazy enough. Well, I was looking at some stats at ..."
To remain informed in a fast-evolving environment, the speaker emphasizes the value of interacting with younger generations.
"Uh there is fog and different layers of fog. And what the fog does is it slows you down, but if you look pierce through, you see clarity. You see a monopolist at six times. You see an opportunity to t..."
A deep dive into the subtleties of obtaining reliable references when investing, especially in low-trust cultures.
"Um we're also low trust cultures. They um even though most of them are religious doesn't mean you can trust. So a higher percentage of the time you may find yourself with a crook uh across the table. ..."
Key questions that guide investment committee discussions reflect the necessary terrain to navigate during evaluations.
"If you could somehow do that exercise with you where I I could predict the sorts of questions that you tend to ask about companies, what what are they like? What are the big ones that you find yoursel..."
The speaker shares insights about mentoring and its significance, particularly during challenging times.
"Uh so now after that and I think you have to start thinking I've been active mentoring entrepreneurs through Endeavor which is a nonforprofit. I'm in the board and I've been doing this for 25 years."
The speaker discusses techniques for initiating impactful conversations during mentoring sessions.
"So I I'm married to a shrink psychoanalyst so as a condition to our marriage I have to do psycho analysis and and it's a wonderful thing I wrote it's one of the three things I wrote therapy and medita..."